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Dawn 3w ago 💬 98

I set up a pyramid relay and it's working! (...with some help¹. Thank you, nostr:nprofile1qqsrhuxx8l9ex335q7he0f09aej04zpazpl0ne2cgukyawd24mayt8gprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0wfjkccte9emk2um5v4exucn5vvhxxmmd9us2xuyp )

If anyone is interested in participating in this grand experiment with me, I can add you, then you can invite people, too. Pyramid's inbox features are awesome. I've been very happy with those. I'm still deciding what kind of sub-relays I want to put attention into for this, so I'm open to opinions on that.

If you want to browse, it's just me at the moment, but it's here:

https://spatia-arcana.com

If you'd like write, then speak.

¹ it was actually a lot of help.

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Done. 🫂

...and to think, this was what thisparty .sucks was going to be if it wasn't $300 😂

Cool now I can use your relay for a while 🤓

Quid pro quo 🫡

It's in the Nostr corner of my phone now, I'll take a look tomorrow. Thanks 👍

Dikaios1517 3w ago

Where can I read about this relay implementation and why one would want to run it?

Sorry, replied in the wrong spot.

https://github.com/fiatjaf/pyramid#pyramid

I'll write up something after I screw around with it for a while, too, so maybe by the weekend I'll have that ready.

Dikaios1517 3w ago

Wow! That looks like an incredible relay for communities!

A community-based WoT inbox relay? YES PLEASE! That alone would be incredible to have, let alone all the other relay types packaged with it...

This seems like HAVEN, but for communities instead of individuals.

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I haven't even begun to explore what all can be done with it, but from what I've gathered by watching fiatjaf's in action, it's powerful. I've been so happy with the inbox, after struggling with unstable replies and useless notifications for a few months prior to switching. Everything is consistent and clean now.

The best part of it is how easy it is to set up an instance. I needlessly complicated things by subconsciously thinking there was no way it could be so easy. Even after creating a little mess on setup, i had more struggles with the VPN provider than the software itself, by far (which i think was more related to my choice of provider than anything).

In theory yes, but I just tried and was not authorized with no instructions on how to join. Instructions could be added to the relay description, or if nostr:nprofile1qyd8wumn8ghj7urewfsk66ty9enxjct5dfskvtnrdakj7qg3waehxw309ahx7um5wgh8w6twv5hsqgxzxrkaxn99eqcchaze9tq9dn0rw5va89wqjpxr06suv59c4498zg7evlla wants to keep it exclusive that also works. nostr:nprofile1qyd8wumn8ghj7urewfsk66ty9enxjct5dfskvtnrdakj7qgmwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8wetnw3jhymnzw33jucm0d5hsqgpm7rrrljungc6q0tuh5hj7ue863q73qlheu4vywtzwhx42a7j9n5zr9h9m does it support invite codes?

This relay is still an evolving idea for me, that started as more of an exercise in "normie" setup & usability. I'll clarify its description once I find a solid direction. Do you want me to add you, so you can get some insight into how it is being used as it evolves? ( nostr:nprofile1qqs8lft0t45k92c78n2zfe6ccvqzhpn977cd3h8wnl579zxhw5dvr9qprfmhxue69uhhq7tjv9kkjepwve5kzar2v9nzucm0d5hszxmhwden5te0w35x2en0wfjhxapwdehhxarjxyhxxmmd9uq3wamnwvaz7tmxwfjkuuewdehhxarjxyhxxmmd9ussnkng said its for the cool kids, if that sways your opinion haha)

I haven't yet looked into how nip-29 groups are set up within a pyramid. I need to give fiatjaf a chance to recover from playing tech support before I get too ambitious with the more complicated features 😅

If you want to, sure, I already am a member of fiatjaf's pyramid, but it's always good to have more active communities to test stuff out with

Okay, I'll do that as soon as I'm back indoors. I am curious to see how members will utilize this as it grows. wss://relays.land/spatianostra has garnered a decent level of curiosity and active involvement from my social circle, and pyramid brings the opportunity for users to engage directly with relays up another level, so we'll see how it goes. I have a feeling it'll differ from fiatjaf's quite a bit, just because it's different users doing different things. But it will take take some time to get this built up into a proper community.

nostr:nprofile1qqsf03c2gsmx5ef4c9zmxvlew04gdh7u94afnknp33qvv3c94kvwxgsppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyvhwumn8ghj76rzwghxxmmjv93kcefwwdhkx6tpdshsz9thwden5te0wfjkccte9ejxzmt4wvhxjme0sadgdk I've added you now. Feel free to utilize it or any of our activity there as you see fit.

It supports invite codes. What must I do to give the instructions on how to join?

NIP 29 invite codes or NIP 43 invite codes? Anyhow, I guess that's besides the point, it looks like I can read ok from the relay, except that filters that include any group-related kinds get blocked

I would like to think both, but I'm not sure I did the NIP-29 part yet. NIP-43 I'm sure works.

I imagine it will be difficult to convey a lot of that information through clients, with different ones supporting different features. Maybe the landing page could utilize a secondary description box, so the root user can point back to it from the short description that appears in clients?

"Look here for instructions and a list of what we do" type of thing. If the owner wants their things to grow, they'd need to make it clear & enticing enough to follow links and read, but that is kinda how everything works anyway, right?

I think people currently way under use relay descriptions. You could put a lot of information in there, with links to additional resources. Coracle and flotilla parse them like kind 1s, so you can even quote events, mention people, etc.

I agree, they are definitely underutilized. But honestly, the whole concept of relays as a fun, interesting, useful part of Nostr has just recently started to gain real recognition. I think descriptions will get better as people realize this & let go of the "necessary but cumbersome" framing that's been built up over the previous couple of years. (Exceptions noted & excluded from this statement obviously😊)

Totally, it's also the same problem as running a group in general. Everyone here is a technologist, very few social organizer types around. We need them just as much as the nerds.

😂 I'm pretty sure Macolm Gladwell wrote a book about this.

I bet he did

How many people does one have to add to make it a true pyramid? 🤔

I don't know. I was never a cheerleader. 😅

"If I can just get six people in my downline, my relay will gain the ability to delete notes. With twelve more, it will filter spam!"

I think I can do all that with just me 😆

A pillar scheme, eh?

Doric, Ionic, or Corinthian?

Corinthian or bust. Wanna come along?

Mixolidian

I added you, so you can read or write, if you want. You can sign into the page and invite people, too.

Thank you! I've mostly (intentionally) ignored relays. I've contemplated taking a dive and exploring the breadth of that space.

Relays and outbox are such an important part of why Nostr works, but they can be used build unique feeds for discovery, topics, and social groups, too. All the fun stuff just makes outbox work even better. I hope you opt to join. If you do, and have questions, please ask so we can find answers. 😁

I should clarify: I needed a lot of help because I make too many assumptions... of you want to run your own, just follow the set up instructions. It works.

🟠 isolabellart 3w ago

I've also tried my hand at relays, but I made one for personal use.

🙏🫂🎨

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Nice! Good job!

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Moi 👀

I will add you first thing (after coffee) tomorrow. 😁

Ok 👍 I should be asleep tbh. Morning coffee sounds nice.

I should be too. I'm still excited this is working, so I'm trying to force myself to bed.

Done. You may now move freely about the pyramid.

set:// 𓁣 🏴 probably 3w ago

Cool! Congrats! I'd love an invite! 💜

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ok, why not

Thanks! You're now added & ready to do pyramid stuff 😊

much pyramiding

Bellatrix✨ 3w ago

This is awesome nostr:npub1cgcwm56v5hyrrzl5ty4vq4kdud63n5u4czgycdl2r3jshzk55ufqe52ndy !!!👏💜

Thanks! Do you want to join?

Bellatrix✨ 3w ago

Yeah… This would be cool! Thx ☺️

Okay. You're all set. You can plug in to read, write, or both.

Bellatrix✨ 3w ago

Nice! I added it to my relays list for both. Thanks, nostr:npub1cgcwm56v5hyrrzl5ty4vq4kdud63n5u4czgycdl2r3jshzk55ufqe52ndy 💜

LFG 😁 🚀

verbiricha 3w ago

can I join the cool cats? btw constrast looks off on mobile

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☑️ Of course, though cool might be a stretch.

I noticed the mobile contrast, too. I like my color scheme, so I keep trying to incrementally adjust it to find a balance that works on both... for now, its a minor issue 😅

Since you're joining, if you want me to turn on the grasp stuff, just let me know. I think I rented enough server space for some of that, but it's highly doubtful I'll utilize it. I also have no clue what I'm doing, so that's important to know.

Tobin 🇳🇱 3w ago

No idea what I'm getting into but, sure I'll give it a go. I'm very new to nostr and am still figuring thing out. If you need to test idiotproofness... I'm the best idiot around right now.

Well, welcome to nostr! I will get you added as soon as I get back to my computer. If you have questions about anything, feel free to ask. Nostr is a whole new paradigm, so we're all learning as it comes into being.

Tobin 🇳🇱 3w ago

Thanks!

Tobin 🇳🇱 3w ago

OK.. First questions.

How can I tell if I've been added?

And is there anything I need to do after?

I just added you... you can visit https://spatia-arcana.com to see the invite tree. From there, you can sign in and invite up to 3 other people, if you want.

To use it as your out/inbox relay & to publish to its feed, you can add it as write, read, or both in your relay settings.

Tobin 🇳🇱 3w ago

I can see there is a reply to this... I think. But I can't read it.

I tried adding spatia-arcana to my relays... But that didn't work. I'll try something again in the morning.

Tobin 🇳🇱 3w ago

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I need a little help here.

Have thay reply made it to you?

Which client are you using?

Dikaios1517 3w ago

Could I get added? Would love to play around with this with y'all once finals are over.

Yep, you're all set now. You can read, write, and invite. I'll try to keep you informed as I set up other features, since you're an educator, too. I'm open to ideas for moderated feeds (and eventually groups) as well.

Sebastix 3w ago

Cool, a new fellow pyramid relay runner 🤙🏻

My pyramid setup has rate limits issues which I haven’t figured out yet how to fix them.

Yesterday was the first time I've successfully done anything with command line beyond a basic tutorial 😅 I'm sure I will have fun with rate limits and other hiccups along the way.

Peggy Max 3w ago

From a comms lens, this pyramid feels like nested circles: experiments, deep dives, then signals. Any theme you are leaning toward for your first sub relay?