I promise you that this will never get enough liquidity to work well. Not to forget that the use case is bullshit. No one how wants to save money in bitcoin thinks: “okay let me store my hard earned money in Monero for some months before I change it in the asset I actually want to but”
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Why not? People do that with dollars already.
So I swap my dollars so that I can swap them again after a certain amount of time. It’s hilarious how hard monero tries to find a use case.
Your dollars are permissoned, custodial and traced. Monero is not.
That's not the point. The point is, people want btc for example, but the fee is high, so they wait and save dollars. You can do that with anything. I'm pointing out that your reasoning is flawed.
Monero has a use case, peer to peer digital cash. What's the use case of Bitcoin?
Sure bro. It’s losing value against bitcoin and people are constantly swapping 😂
Hilarious indeed. You mean like the darknet markets, and silent.link / shopinbit sales?
As it stands now, the market has chosen: Bitcoin for SoV, Monero for digital cash.
Only an idealogue can argue that Bitcoin, with its poor onchain privacy and high fees, beats #monero at $0.01/tx with nearly perfect privacy+anonymity.
I'm more than happy seeing either one improve at either role and GIVE PEOPLE CHOICES, because to me Bitcoin is neither religion nor football club.
Don't be an idealogue. Ideologies make people blind to the truth, and being blind to the truth makes one ignorant.
Funny that you have a lightning address where people can send you bitcoin in no time for nearly no fees. Which makes your complete argument invalid. 😂😂😂
Nearly no fees ***as long as onchain fees are low***
It costs half a cent to transact on Monero. You would think a big Bitcoin stacker like yourself could afford that.
And what does any of this have to do with privacy?
You're aren't even using lightning! You're on Wallet of Satoshi like 95% of LN users because sovereign UX sucks and you know it!
The only thing we can be fanatical about is FREEDOM!
It shows you probably don't stack bitcoin p2p noncustodially.
In fact I do regularly! Just stop stacking 10$ every day and stack 300$ per month. I don’t see why I should buy a shitcoin first
With 300 you're still paying over 10℅ in on-chain fees ans creating sub 1M utxos which are not even good enough for the 1M pool mix and might be dust in the near future.
You answered your own question by saying "you don't know why...."
The people that know the true use case for this are happy to see potentially a massive privacy problem solved
It will get more than enough liquity as the service uses liquidity provider and we have a lot monero guys who are interested in this AtomicSwap tool as well.
The use case is absolute great if you have a saving account - Bitcoin and want to use privacy per default which is Monero. You swap into Monero only for your payments. Done. Another use case is to swap your doxxic change from Whirlpool into XMR and back.
This is a tool for ppl who are already live on BTC or XMR and not for DCA ppl who never do a transaction.
Check your last sentence against the original note I reacted too. These are contradictory statements and I said the same like you. It’s not a tool for DCA.
For the initial discussion it doesn't really matter what I think of Monero 
This is not about "making money" i.e number go up. It, instead, gives Samourai Whirlpool users an option to deal with tx0 doxxic change for instance, which in the end is all about being able to spend money privately, non-custodially, permission-less-ly, without traces. Every tx0 change output can still be deterministically linked to your pre-mix coin history (source: https://docs.samourai.io/en/faq#what-is-doxxic-change). Every Monero transaction is untraceable and you can immediately spend it. So there is definitely a use case there, the same way in the opposite direction, a Monero whale seller may buy a bunch of different small tx0 change outputs and merge them into a new whirpool mix in order to benefit from btc's liquidity's market (as explained in https://bitcoiner.guide/doxxic/ on how to deal with change).
Saving in Monero for the future may incur in loss of purchasing power as Monero suffers from price suppression and exchange delistings due to it's anonymity enhancing nature but also users can still "save" it as a tool to spend in the future as the price has shown significant stability over the years nonetheless
Well said. I think this guy is just unaware of our use cases and has that newer bitcoiner perspective where he thinks he fits into the crowd by just randomly blurting out "shitcoiner".
I'm certainly happy paying a premium or taking a small loss for my own privacy spending.
Either way, this is great for monero users and bitcoiners 😎
Do you ever use Bitcoin privately? Do you use Bitcoin at all? Doesn't seem like it
Monero is great for small accumulation over time before swapping to BTC or swapping out your toxic change
XMRBTC swings either way if were talking about a time scale of months
How do I know this and a price obsessed maxi like yourself doesn't?🤦♂️