Sociological "gender roles" run deep.
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Gender roles are not sociological. They are literally the foundation of nature. Women literally carry and grow babies, and *must* as a consequence be biologically designed for the tendencies and behaviors that align with that. While men must be biologically aligned to the role of protector and provider. Nobody forced this and it wasn’t arbitrarily invented. Essentially everything in nature has a push and a pull, a positive and a negative, a nurturer and a fighter. That trade is one of the most foundational elements of life.
How on earth we have all so become so profoundly shallow as to weigh the value of everyone by how much money they made is incredible to me. To try to value my wife and myself against each other by how much would made last year is so fucking vapid and disrespectful to both of us it’s incredible.
Not to get worked up and no disrespect to you. But working a fucking job for some business is not what makes a human valuable.
You lost me at gender roles are not sociological, Guy. You literally did the audiobook narration for for Lyn Alden, for HER book.
What does that have to do with anything?
Not going to out anyone here. Gender is a social construct.
Loved you narration btw. Fr. Great job 💜
I'm being serious. Great job. I've read it once and listened to it thrice :)
Appreciate it. Fucking love the book and Lyn’s writing in general. Always been a fan and was honored to get to do it.
I agree. Great book, well written, and you fucking nailed it. And given the subject matter, it was not an easy task.
Feminine men or masculine women or anything in between does not counter the simple fact I stated above.
Agree to disagree. Maybe it's a matter of nuance that is hard to convey over text. Either way, thx for the solid convo, friend :)
What happened to you to disconnect you from nature? Was it some kind of trauma, or just run of the mill indoctrination?
Gender is not a social construct. It is a genetic detail. You either have XX or XY chromosomes, formed definitely at conception for the vast majority of nature. Gender roles are in part social construct. Perhaps that's what you meant?
Even if what you’re implying was true, (I have no idea and make no claims) that still wouldn’t change the fact that there is a real, fundamental separation of the human race into male and female genders.
Yes, there are aspects of ‘cultural gender’ which have certain roles, conventions, or physical presentations assigned to them, and we can subvert those if we so choose to.
I don’t know why people who support the right of people to present as they wish take it to the point of denying that there is something more fundamental than social interactions and conventions which differentiates men from women.
I think he meant biological sex, particularly in regards to reproduction.
Gender is a social construct, of course, and not binary.
nonsense, there is clear physical differences in the brain function, gender is imaginary bullshit
there is such thing as having a brain that is more like the opposite sex though, mine is 50% more like female, and i imagine yours is a bit boyish
Your first paragraph relates to biological sex (male/female).
Your second paragraph relates to the concept of gender (feminine/masculine).
It's the same split between biological relation (can be clearly defined and tested) and familial/racial relation (social construct that roughly overlaps with the scientific construct).
As you point out, my lived experiences, as someone who looks/appears female, but has a masculine brain (in some regards), are going to be very different from a different female, who looks more masculine and has a more feminine brain. And etc.
Biological sex is easily determined and has a real impact on your life experiences, but so does the way other people perceive you or how far away your own person is from the norm/mean for your sex.
Thank you for bringing common sense and a good mind back to that conversation!
no, biological sex also heavily influences the way the brain works
why is it that women especially get horny when they drink alcohol? because alcohol increases testosterone synthesis (it combines with cholesterols to make testosterone, not oestrogen)
women have more acute peripheral vision and less acute target vision, the statistics are that most often women driving cars crash into things in front of them because their attention is beside them, they are browsers, gardeners, not hunters, and while there is variance in this in every individual, it is very rarely more than 50% biased away from the average
women are good at accounting, when you have a little gang of crazy children around you have to always be counting them to make sure they are all still there... you have to make sure they all get fed and nobody misses out... the ways in which female brains are different suits the role as mistress of the house, the man works out in the field where his strengths benefit and make him more efficient
the concept of gender, the concept of wealth, the concept of anything is not the thing itself, of course, but the more disjoint your concept is from reality the more psychotic you are, and every kind of issue in society related to everything is all warped by marketing brainwashing shit
like, you know the real reason why they gave women the vote? so they could put them to work in the offices and debase the money even more and create all kinds of problems that benefit drug manufacturers and agricultural conglomerates, to create a constant state of distress in society caused by forcing and cajoling people into things that don't fit them and diminishing the overall productivity and happiness of society
i am not a misogynist, i'm just stating the facts... and the fact is that a huge percentage of women these days have totally screwed up hormones, that make them pick and chase bad mates, that put them into employment that doesn't leverage their benefits and overall reduces the quality of output and the overall morale of organisations as well, and that doesn't even get started with all the poisons in the food supply, the constant, non stop manipulation of people's beliefs, and all these other things that are being done to genocide us
>>no, biological sex also heavily influences the way the brain works<<
I never said otherwise. 🤷♀️
I don't understand what you meant here. Care to back up your statements?
all I can say is that Nostr is growing because I've been seeing the typical lefty crowd coming out in force.
Maybe it's just election season... who knows.
The physical jobs my wife does to support the family can be replaced with a relativly inexpensive employee, I could probably save money by running the household as a business and only allow the children to have what they absolutely need. However the value she brings as their mother cannot be measured.
Don't you mean male/female sex roles? Gender is a spectrum so anyone could claim to be in the minority just to suit their claim of hope everything is unfair.