I think at this point its not only a matter of personaties choosing platforms but also about platforms shaping personalities. Im looking forward to the kinds of online personas nostr will shape.
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I have thought often about the point you’re making. How much of “personality” (emergent complex behaviour) is shaped by a system built on theft where some people win at the expense of others versus what that behaviour would look like in a system based on truth?
Integrity will prevail
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Exactly!
I hope so. There is a battle for integrity for sure.
It’s the win/lose paradigm which mandates that in order for a few to win, many must lose. Nostr is demonstrating the win/win paradigm through the current zapping trend. If I think that Nostr will benefit me, I reward others so that they’re encouraged to participate in helping to build the protocol. Then they do the same. Zap, zap, zap. Everybody wins.
I often think about whether greed is the resulting behavior of a system built on theft, and would greed thrive in the new system.
I have a running theory that the lack of algos, deletion, and the addition of positivity-reinforcing mechanisms like zaps may make nostr "nicer" overall as positivity is rewarded. Sats give a real value to what posts people actually like, vs bots boosting outrage. May there is a bias right now because of all the bitcoiners, but we shall see.
I agree Will. It will be interesting to watch but an open and decentralized system with #Bitcoin native - changes everything. A true win/win where integrity and value for others is rewarded.
Incentives matter. We can already feel the results. Natural selection restored.
A world full of fiat is a world full of antagonistic destruction. A world full of bitcoin is a world full of collaborative construction. 🤝
Its something to seriously consider. Yeah we are all used to it, but is it good for us?
You can’t take back talking shit in real life, maybe that’s a good thing here. Forces you to think before you post. If you make a mistake in your post, it’s okay because we all do it. We’re humans, not machines. This community is new to me and feel more welcome here than other social networks. Real people want to connect and build each other up.
Instead of deleting, someone will have to live with that post and really think about their viewpoint (hopefully!). Might actually bring real discussions.
This is also a great point because I think nostr is closer to irl compared to Twitter because you can’t delete. The way people act face to face vs behind a keyboard is not even comparable most of the time. At least nostr brings you one step closer to being civil.
What? Social media? I think it’s a net positive for humanity simply for the information flow. It’s the first time in history where a nobody pleb can bring truth to the world with ease. And nostr/zap is a game changer for that same group imo, especially in the times to come. This is the anti WeChat.
Zaps will eventually replace likes as the default / important metric, for exactly these reasons. People will stop looking at likes altogether. Or maybe only out of sheer curiosity.
👍👏👏👏👏 How can I upload an image?
Expressed a similar thought about deletion the other day:
https://damus.io/note12ph3flrnc8dpew39awn8sjxmf3qcc50xrzc79ra5hr3akgfrhr7qhl6hp4
Really great point
I wonder if removing likes/shaka/heart and keeping only ⚡️ will improve the time preference and quality of discourse
I've considered it but that would be a pretty big change and i think a lot of people would not like that
Dude, we need to upload our pics natively via #[7] or smthg🫶🙏
Ideally the user can choose where, and would be great to have some pre-installed options like relays.
Takes one person to put 1k likes on every post and remove any signal that likes provided
Could make it a personal setting where users decide to do away with seeing likes and only see zaps. Would be interesting to see if the user base chooses to move the experience in this direction.
Was thinking same! Take this ⚡️, ser.
Mind-meld! We are one. Back at ya,
Yeah its a good idea
I’m taking a screen shot of this thread for when the feature comes out. “Yeah, me and #[6] built Damus”
I’ll have a go at documenting the feature request today. Included will be origin: Steven. ⚡️
Love it. I sold my software company in 2020 and I REALLY miss the product discussions.
Nice! What did your company do?
It’s an Employee Engagement suite of tools - Recognition, Feedback and Idea Collaboration.
We had a 20 year run before selling. Still operating. I left last April. https://www.tembosocial.com/
The ability to zap any post is a real game-changer. I don’t think we’ve even begun to appreciate the implications. It is starting out as a fun exercise, but I think it will quickly evolve into the standard way to conduct commerce.
I’d second that request. Remove likes and only use Zaps.
Zaps = bitcoin
Likes = unlimited fiat
Added remove 🤙 toggle and view as feature request to damus github https://github.com/damus-io/damus/issues/645
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That’s a real milestone. Thanks for submitting the feature request. Nicely done. Love this place.
Fork Damus, make it reply and ⚡️only, rename it, put in App Store; see what happens.
This place seems so much happier than Twitter every time I go back to Twitter I feel the algorithm trying to make me anxious
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we're already seeing this to a certain degree. i've noticed more and more non-bitcoiners entering the space. probably because we're making so much noise about nostr on twitter, which we should continue to do to foster adoption and bridge the gap
Everyone wants to reward value with value. We’re so lucky to have guys like you give us the ability to experience it first!
You could compare it to a free market I guess. Everybody has the same chance to do (share) whatever they want, provide value and therefore get rewarded. There are no sanctions (bans, shadowbans and so on) or subventions (boosts for woke nonsense for example) which leads to the most valuable things spreading best and also receiving monetary value. This feedback loop contains so much positivity that the experience has to be amazing!
I also think your „bias“ will diminish over time because this feedback loop will also benefit people that are not aware of free market mechanisms yet. So they don’t know what they are missing but they will figure out soon. Receiving monetary value for content DIRECTLY will spread like a wildfire and attract the masses soon enough ✌🏻
You will get zee zaps and you will be happy