Always speechless when a Bitcoiner doesn’t have Lightning and doesn’t even want to use it especially when traveling to El Salvador and calling themselves a maximalist.

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They don't understand that Bitcoin was intended more as a cash system—and less as a store of value.

I give you right. But it depends how much btc you have, how old you are and what's your present income situation. If somebody has no income any more in Fiat and also not in bitcoin, you become very tight and reluctant spending at all.

It’s more about the mindset… as an old friend always says: ā€žeat what you cookā€œ

Doesn’t surprise me. Same vibe as those naked monks in the mountains who expect the local villagers to feed them.

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Exactly! Been here 3 years and every time I meet long time bitcoiners at events here (and around the world) that don't use LN I'm very saddened. Some very famous names included.

It's weird, I pay my bills in LN even but somehow the 'nobody uses it' meme lives on.

(P.S. I don't call myself a maximalist and most of the people I'm referring to wouldn't either, but that's beside the point.)

ā€˜Nobody’ uses LN but still there are 1800+ txs and nearly 6 BTC routed on my little pleb node in the last 24 hours āš”ļø

holy crap, that's awesome Filou! LN is great. I should open a channel with you when I get some time to better understand LN, I've just been playing with Alby Hub for a few months.

The network has been picking up a massive amount of volume last few weeks!

Lightning is a rabbit hole, I started about 4 years ago on a Raspberry Pi with a just couple channels and got hooked. Now running on a full bare metal server and it became a full time jobāš”ļø

I love this. I’m here for it.

How many rabbit holes are out there! This is so crazy! šŸ”„šŸ’œ

i use lighting multiple times a week and i’m more likely to use a service if it accepts lighting. i’m just a lazy customer and lightning is the most convenient way to pay.

Don't you like paying by card? You only need to provide your legal name and address, write 16 numbers, a date and 3 digits, while also needing to approve the payment from your phone. Oh and if you use a vpn, the 2fa page might not work and you need to restart the process.

That's way better than scanning a QR code and tapping pay. /s

I use lighting when it's dark and I need to see.

OnlyOnchain OGs or scared of lightning šŸ˜†

He has to pay with CC. Not a maxi.

LN is a level up. āš”ļø

Agreed!

I can understand they don't want to sell any coin. But why not take part of their travel budget, go to an Bitcoin ATM, and load their lightning wallet to pay for things while they are there.

That's not a maxi. That's a normie.

I am a bitcoiner. Though I don't travel to El Salvador. I think lightening is a bad solution and an unnecessary admission that Bitcoin doesn't scale.

True. Lightining and eCash are the way to spend and c2b

Really surprising! Especially when you call yourself a maximalist and don’t even use Lightning.

Lightning isn’t optional, it’s the bridge between belief and use. Between hodling and living.

I'm always speechless when Bitcoiners claim to understand what money is, yet they spend their BTC and hoard their fiat.

Makes me bullish šŸ™‚; confirmation that we're so early that even the bitcoiners don't recognize bitcoin when it's staring them in the face

Thats' staggering. This is the first week I've even heard there are bitcoiners openly hostile to Lightning.

LN is a level up. āš”ļø x2