I heard a feminist say that all men are potential rapists, once, and it horrified me and I denied it because I know so many great guys.

And then I realized that it was actually true. And all women are potential baby killers. All people are potential murderers, thieves, liars and fraudsters, etc.

Everyone has the capacity to do something wicked or evil.

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Everyone is potential everything I guess then.

Exactly.

This is a thought that doesn't upset me, anymore, and I don't feel like I need to jump up and shout someone down who says it.

I just... got over it.

And I like men more than ever now because I know that they carry this potential and hardly any of them ever act on it.

Men aren't just wild animals, that I need the government to protect me from.

Men have themselves and each other in check.

First thing that came to mind. Thank you for your kind words ❤️

Welcome in the permissive thermodynamic universe 👋

Most people are good and just want to move on with their lives. But in this time of high time preference and wrong incentives, more people are stimulate to make bad things.

This why the ONLY way to build a long term, viable culture is to make sure everything makes the individual search through & analyze their own mind…

Modernity has done to opposite for decades at least, the result will be horrific

All men are especially potential rapists and there's nothing particularly crazy about admitting that.

Like no shit, you mean the gender with cancer causing amounts of testosterone pumping at all time, that went to war to fight death matches just to impress women, might get excited enough not to ask first?

The existence of Pfizer disproves this theory.

Yes, and you can say that all women are potential examples of independent girls. All men have potential empathy.

It all depends on circumstances and how we are raised and situations we have experienced.

Yep, I have some capacity to be a serial killer (who the fuck said that complete idiocy...)

To paraphrase Solzhenitsyn: The line separating God and evil passes right through every human heart.

*good

As long as enough resources are available, few people steal. As long as there is enough sex available, few men rape. Few men commit murder unless there is an emergency. It all depends on the situation. Morality is relative.

I doubt you'll answer me, but this must be asked.

- "As long as there is enough sex available, few man rape."

Would YOU rape girls if there were not sex available for you at all?

Do you sincerely believe that "lack of sex" is the driving force behind rape?

If morality is relative and all depends on the situation, in which condition/situation would you commit mass genocide against another race?

I prefer not to answer your questions. I always avoid arguing with religious people, because arguing between two people with completely opposite opinions is fruitless and only spreads hatred.

Religions instill the idea that good and evil are absolutes, but this is false. Morality is relative and depends on the situation. Humans and animals follow the same rule: forest animals are cruel because the conditions of life in the forest demand it, domestic animals are kind because they always have enough to eat, but a large domestic dog may eat you if it be too much hungry and has no food to eat, this is exactly how humans manner in different situation.

Wtf... I wouldn't become a savage animal just because I'm hungry.

It feels you are making the same argument as the socialists, saying that robbery exists because these people are poor and need to commit crimes in order to survive.

Saying that material conditions determine the immaterial like mind, wants and needs, thus causing them to act how they do. But since you already shown to be an atheist, being a materialist isn't that far.

Yes, I am a materialistic atheist and this is my opinion, you are free to agree with me or not.

I do not agree. The feminists do have a big point here. Just watch men going wild at clubs or watch pedophile exposing content. The variety of these people is astonishing. And many will let eventually their inner beast lose if they do not have to fear the consequences, like many priests did.

Add to that the fact that men are likely to be stronger then the women they meet and you will see the power inbalance in some situation shine as bright as the sun.

Ofcourse many men are not doing harm. But it will always be really difficult to tell who is legitimate and who is not. So yes, in their eyes, a man can be a potential danger.

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I got my @ss kicked in school one time (4th or 5th grade). I was grounded for fighting in school. But then my pops signed me up for boxing camp that summer to which my uncle drove me to the gym everyday for 2 months.

Pops rationale: all men have a monster within them.

The difference between the dead men and the ones in jail are the ones that understood what their monster was capable of and how to keep that monster at bay untill it was summoned.

Boxing camp was about learning what that monster was capable of. As for not being "deaded" or in jail....I was luckier then the others.

Yup. We all have a thread evil and good woven into us. The real decision we all have is which one we act on.

I'm just amazed that such a question can turn into a religious debate, or that women instinctively fear men, or that men fight each other just to impress women.

In order not to turn this into a religious war, this is a moral issue that cannot depend on religion (although there are religions where the woman is the property of the man, but this is no longer an issue of "jus, fas, mos").

And the fact that women are afraid of men is a very "interesting" approach. There are matriarchal societies not only among those living at the tribal level, but e.g. in Vietnam too.

Amd it is a very dishonesting approach against men that men fight only to impress women. Basically, men's task since becoming human (and even for most animals) is to protect the family, even at the cost of violence. Also, to get food for the family, and to eat meat, you have to hunt. Hunting is a violent act it's a fact. But it is imdepemdent from raping women, no conmection between this two things. Just to clarify things.

In some ways, this is the kind of thinking that makes me reconsider any kind of judgement against others. While we may all have the potential to become something we detest, many of us already have done things we detest. It is also not universal what is deemed detestable.

If I wish to be supportive of someone I do not know (and by know, I mean at the deepest of levels, but the English language is failing me here), then I must accept that they may have done detestable things that I am unaware of, and may yet do detestable things in the future.

Your go-to detestable thing seems to be rape. For me, it is child abuse. This is for me, the purity test: I must be able to stand beside someone who has abused a child, and who may yet abuse a child, or the gesture of support is not genuine, tainted by suspicion and judgement, and worthless.

Not happy thoughts, but what I am owning in my quest to be a better human.

Absolutely disagree, this offends the males

Then you night be a physical male, but not quite their mentally or in a hormonal sense if you're finding that offensive.

It's true. Or, at minimum something to ponder about.

Unless a male is insecure with the notion because they hold some secrets they know about themselves that they won't expose (watching rape porn, bdsm, extremely rough porn) find themselves getting agitated or having extremely negative thoughts which usually go hand in hand with rape.

I do not. So I don't mind the sentiment, but to act as though there are not rapists and there are not potential for any man to be a rapist if a scenario is contextualized in a certain way is ludicrous.

Like I said, I can't be a rapist lol. I have a lot of testosterone, I know this about myself. But I also know I'm extremely averse to rape - like even as a drive. I don't have it nor find it sexy, my manhood shrivels up at the thought.

I'm more narcissistic than dominant. I want her to want me, and I flirt well and play games to make that happen. The chase is everything to me. Once I acquire her, sure I enjoy sex lol. But, I don't even have to have it I get satisfied by just getting a female to want me.

Anyhow, unless a male is a little insecure with the notion, there should be no misunderstanding about the sentiment.

Ok. Autocorrect fucked all that up with the "there vs their".

And my bad on "night". Meant "might" - that's just 4am fat fingers lol

The people who think they couldn’t do it are the most dangerous. Being naive isn’t virtuous, it’s just stupid.