We are working on improving this, but curious to get your take on what would be the ideal onboarding flow and first time user experience.
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topic related most followed people, being able to follow all, selection of skip
Well you will be happy to learn that is exactly the onboarding process on Primal
Why would you want to bias it in favor of the most followed people? That basically limits it to the shitty crowd of early grifters that got high follow counts early
Not sure if your claim is true. But could also be a choice between, most followed, most zapped, most liked, most replied to etc.
Again, those all bias it in favor of early momentum. Makes it hard for nostr to ever outgrow the shitty people that got big follow lists early like HODL and ODELL
Follow suggestions. Opportunity to buy sats with option to skip. π€
Suggested follows with better categories. Most of the categories for your auto follows would be some sort of umbrella of bitcoin and bitcointwitter. (Eg I think you try to have a mixture, like 'memes' but really this means bitcoin meme accounts)
Scrolling up was disappointing, wish you were the one whose take he was asking for. calle is gonna say add nutsacks or something
there are welcome and introduction relays...what about we encourage others to have some of those relays so they can read when a new person comes in.
depending on their introduction more or less people will engage.
I did use primal at the start and got many people saying hi.
but the trending. which currently I do not find that helpful, at the time it was very helpful to follow others. So that is a good one for that purpose.
Could start with adding doggie coin and Monero since you already feature the more outdated Bitcoin so prominently
Start with no follows, zero, and make the UX100% focussed on helping newcomers to onboard their own friends, family members, etc.
As part of the flow show all the neat ways they can interact with people they *already know* on Nostr (especially zaps). An entirely different onboarding concept, and a lot of work to get right.
And create some temporary bots/placeholders to show what the feed looks like when populated (and make it clear they are illustrative bots). Don't use Nostr elites for this. And hide all trending lists. Trending lists must be proactively turned on somewhere in some setting.
Problem is this. The existing community (nice as most well-known members are) is scaring new people away, surfacing it in onboarding in any way is a net negative for growth (just look at retention numbers). I'd imagine 9 out of 10 newcomers feel very much like they've walked into the wrong bar. New communities will only spring up when people are comfortable, and the existing community makes too many people uncomfortable, ergo exposing the existing community to newcomers is detrimental to the growth of new communities, which is what Nostr needs most of all.
A hint to follow tags at the start or setting some tags as default start. Not npubs.
Tags can easily be hijacked by spam and questionable images
do mute lists already work?
start.njump.me offers suggested follows that you can uncheck (including npubs added by whoever sent you the link).
This seems like the obvious way to let users start with default follows without confusing them re: where they came from.
This is a good solution but I would still bitch about the quality of selection being offered. Nostr has so much promotion of bad npubs and very little promotion of good npubs. So far, as a result, we've also gotten suppression of all the good npubs that aren't so heavily promoted.
Is that a serious question? Just ask the user if they want to automatically follow 150 people so they can say βnoβ
it already has the feature to say no about this.. you don't have to follow suggested accounts during set up.
I would suggest not assuming a person is a Twitter pro once they sign-up. I was missing a simple web page intro on Primal home page.
I think we need starer packs
I can see why an auto-follow list is implemented/..itβs the initial impression the end-user gets and plays a huge factor in determine whether the app is worth their continued attention.
BlueSky has Starter Packs (essentially users bundled by shared interests) that a user can select to kickstart a curated feed. Maybe worth looking into.
Also may want to consider letting the new user opt in to something where they can get a halo around their pfp to denote theyβre new. Might help drive interaction.
Just some ideas.
Curious, I would think that notifications also play a huge role in retention/stickiness β why arenβt those available on the iOS app? :)
Itβs fine as it is. Whatβs the issue exactly? The user does not feel in control on the most hand-holding app? cry harder
auto-follow all the bitcoin meetups, promote irl π
This is a very pertinent question! And particularly, in the past I could even find this suggestion strange and bad. However, when approaching a simple line of thought, I come to the conclusion that it is for a softer setting, being better than having an empty room.
But I would like to read some suggestions.
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