Imagine this: You're on stage. A QR code appears on the screen behind you. Someone in the audience scans it and zaps you 100,000 sats. The screen explodes with an animation: their name, their avatar, spinning letters spelling "TOP ZAP." The audience sees it. More zaps come in.
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Make it happen 🙌
We already did 😎 Just need to get it out there to more eyes and events!
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Nice 👍
I would not use it out of fear or not getting zapped 😂
Maybe if you did zap to boo, that could work 😆
Ah! Yes, that happened at nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd4hk6tcqyr44u90sf0y78huxcyqrpdn9ml5z2sgp28q78vagecl59z40gtujwx5z7vd. Gives you mixed feelings, receiving money with criticism 😂
Everybody uses it, whether you want it or not 😇
Cool idea but honestly, that’s really hard to pull off on Nostr right now!
Zaps don’t arrive cleanly or instantly, profiles load slowly, and there’s no simple “live feed” you can trust on stage.
Nostr favors freedom over polish, so flashy real-time stuff like this is still rough.
We’re early. 🧡
You clearly weren't on nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd4hk6tcqyr44u90sf0y78huxcyqrpdn9ml5z2sgp28q78vagecl59z40gtujwx5z7vd 😎
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Yeah, I love it
But opportunity is difficult! 😓
I know the next sentence will be triggering but hang on.
I have not had any issue zapping using a custodial wallet. The only time I run into a delay it is due to the individual using their own node.
Francis if you gamify that with a leaderboard you increase the ability to zapvertize. Imagine if nostr:npub1cj8znuztfqkvq89pl8hceph0svvvqk0qay6nydgk9uyq7fhpfsgsqwrz4u who's not at the conference decides to zap his podcast to the top
Zapping people running their own nodes can sometimes fails because their relays or zap receipt isn’t set up correctly.
PubPay Live is exactly that: a leaderboard you can use for zapvertising. Many have figured that out at AdoptingBitcoin 🤲
Get my npub please.
Got it. Now what? 👀
Send me 100,000 SATS
PubPay uses kind1s for zaps, not kind 0s (yet!)
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as more zaps come in i start shouting: FOOLISH! into the microphone
i throw my cape off my shoulders in a flourish as the QR code morphs into Big Brother's face and then fades
text appears on the screen
oh no
is this a powerpoint?
i say: never scan a public qr code. scammers can place malicious codes to redirect you to fake websites for phishing (stealing info) or to download malware
a few people in the audience start to groan
for they know what is coming and what they are in for
for 'tis i, síso
and every zapper failed the security test
If you need an audio sample
Build it!
Let’s Fucking Go! Awesome 👏
Sick, but slightly distracting? 🤣
That's the audience’s choice. They can stay fully immersed in the talk, or they can actively engage. Sending money is the ultimate form of attention: it’s voluntary, costly, and expressive. You can reward, signal appreciation, or even criticize. In real time.
Cheers and applause are distracting too
Exactly. Once you see it happen live, going back feels very quiet.
I honestly love the zap animation and sound on Nostur app. I’m imagining Ross speaking during btc 2025 and a storm of lightning exploding behind him. ⚡️🤘
I’ve actually never tried Nostur but that sounds wild
PubPay has some pretty cool zap animations (no sound for now).
Let’s just say we have some fun ideas in mind for nostr:npub1rwh33t5x8n7czknhts5fg0v0fml8mkl7neaarksumkkf8d679qrqcz7avv 🤲⚡️
Attention is cheap. Zaps aren’t.
Think of it as clapping, with consequences.
Kinda WIP-ing it (so far it's PoC to show zaps on Twitch but other integrations are possible).
Release soon 👌
It's already released 🤲 feel free to make a PR or two
https://github.com/francismars/PubPay
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Love nostr:npub1qf9pur8yz8e8w78ap6255fx9x6xrakm2jgmqyv063l9365p7sdcs5fauu5 using it for so many nostr:nprofile1qqs97rtxhtxzxy75y6ywmprnqnptw4hghn8pfmhgzgjjp7wfpr5e30qpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqglwaehxw309a3xjarrda5kumtp0p5k6ctvd9ehguewdahxc6twv5rmqq4g meet-ups actually!
Thank you so much Tanja 🤲 Your feedback and energy helped shape PUBPAY into what it is today
It works! That’s that’s why we are here 💜
That’s so cool! Is there a spec that a lightning wallet can implement this?
Yes 🤲 Check out the readmes that explain PubPay and PubPay Live. There's also a NIP in the works!
This would be awesome for a future festival. A bitcoin/ nostr festival where there's music, tents for local produce people can buy, workshops on tech and health /lifestyle. And you can only pay with sats. No coiners have to buy ecash with credit card or cash on the way in 😎 #grownostr
Exactly, Lightning and Nostr interactions everywhere! Sounds like we should do that 🤲
The ecosystem might be ready for that in a few years. As of now, even most bitcoiners have never even made a lightning payment
oh its possible now.
In fact its happening, tonight. We've been doing it for years. Everything he describes and more.
Join us at boostbeach.live tonight 7pm CT
I’ve been attending Bitcoin conferences for the last 3 years with nostr:nprofile1qyghwumn8ghj7vf5xqhxvdm69e5k7tcpzamhxue69uhky6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctcqyzekx0aeuh3xerdwp2m49uclwhvznmy60tuuv23ajjdqsd27x2npxm586kc , putting Lightning in front of people and letting them use it. I’ve personally seen thousands of first-time Lightning payments happen.
From that perspective, the world is more ready than we think
Last time I talked to bitcoiners at a conference I was explaining value for value and most of them hadn't made a lightning payment before. That was in 2024 though...
That’s because lightning payments don’t pump your bags 🫠
Isnt a "Bitcoin conference" something else than a "Bitcoin festival"?
Has something like that even ever happened? (Like nostr:nprofile1qqsz3jspndutf9xzt2w694j9jadg2qw8axd3zvpwtjl8frh9j07t9nqpzamhxue69uhky6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0hefm42 described, with not only music but also merchants, handcrafters, healthy food/drink areas, meditation guides, fitness guides, whatever, you name it?)
I mean, I just did a lightning payment to you. Its easy, cheap and reliable.
People are afraid of paying in BTC because of fees and the whole "store of value" narrative (to which I still would respond: "spend and replace")...
But where is the ecosystem not ready for it?
I think many people would (or should?) join a lightning festival to connect, listen, teach and ofc buy goods and services.
Maybe I'm wrong, but if I remember correctly even the biggest conferences like Nashville in 24 didn't even have any merchants accepting bitcoin. I remember people being pissed off about it. Would love to be proven wrong and would love to see it. But you would also need to find a place with high enough density of merchants and producers willing to accept sats and also enough musicians and technicians to put on a festival and do all the zapping V4V stuff properly. It will happen at some point though, no doubt
I can't compare to the conferences but I've read the same about not being able to buy with BTC. It just needs to be the unit of account for at least bitcoiners (imho).
On the other point, you're absolutely right, too.
I often forget that there are still people out there who do not think that Bitcoin is a good idea..
However, idk in these places like bitcoonbeach, bitcoinjungle or bitcoinisland and so on, it SHOULD be possible.
I mean in my childhood I bought "local market coupons" which I could only use on this one market for food or rides.. It should be possible to do the same again, but with Bitcoin lightning. One would only need a critical mass of merchants and musicians and so on (security and background organization doesnt need to be). That would mean around 30 - 40 bitcoiners should be easily enough to create an experience people (nocoiners) would like to participate in, I guess. They would buy sats on the entrance and getting orangepilled on the exit.
I mean, I am good at cutting speeches to other peoples beats (at least I think so), can cook various tasty and healthy stuff and am good at story telling...
So with you, we are two!
All I'm saying is to do a full blown music festival with all the suppliers, staff people involved etc running on bitcoin only and inviting no coiners who will be given sats on entry is a few years off at least. The conferences are awesome but it only attracts people who are already bitcoiners. It would be great to see a cultural event (which would attract non bitcoiners) which would just happen to use bitcoin & nostr for everything. Then no-coiners could see it work in action. I think the zapping of an artist on stage is the most compelling thing for non bitcoiners as that can't be achieved with credit cards unlike regular merchant payments
I absolutely think, this is the way, a cultural event where the "event currency" is btc-lightning. It definitely shpuldnt be labeled as Bitcoin event because it would deter nocoiners.
Then have some people nocoiners can relate to casually hanging around (like Natalie Brunell or Jack Mallers) and just chat with people..
Not sure if it would be a lightning event or an enlightenment event, if you catch my drift.
That's precisely my idea for Bringing Bitcoin that I've been trying to get off the ground for 3 years! More recently, nostr:nprofile1qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uq3qamnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wd4hk6tcqypceq9nx7fljl9ff4cz4ju9q689memfnm9vtx8gcu5mt5v8rd52qzxw2jjt has been pushing a similar concept called Sats4Sounds
Is the issue reaching a critical mass of merchants and musicians or the organization in general?
The concept appears straight forward.
We have been working on this for a while now. A venue has been recenrly procured. Its still early in the process but nostr:nprofile1qqsz3jspndutf9xzt2w694j9jadg2qw8axd3zvpwtjl8frh9j07t9nqpzamhxue69uhky6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytndw46xjmnewaskcmr9wshxxmmd9uufdwtc let us know if you're interested and we'll be sure to reach out when it comes time to book artists.
Any other ideas/concepts please let us knoe!
For a while all flagship bitcoin conferences have had lightning payments for food and other activations like nostr:nprofile1qqstxcelh8j7ymyd4c9tw5hnra6as20vnfa0n3328k2f5zp4tce2vycpp4mhxue69uhkyunz9e5k7tcpyfmhxue69uhhxar4v3jkuapwvd5xzersdak8jar9vd5xu6tr9e3k7mf07rh8rp, official merch store, and bazaar vendors. In Vegas we even broke a Guinness world record for most transactions in a day, thanks to the relentless efforts of nostr:nprofile1qqsfrjd9ux5hgsg5cmlz6cdwfh5zv2024g8m2t6g9zqf83l8uqm0svspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wvh8xmmrd9skcqghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxxatjwfjkuapwveukjf5sdy3.
We’re ready and we’re going to make all guests ready too ✊⚡️
Maybe I'm remembering wrong / getting mixed up, my bad!
Thats cool and I absolutely appreciate the effort and the achievement!
But like written in another statement, the conferences mainly attract bitcoiners and imho create seldomly newcoiners. For that, I think, the orange pilling event must not be labeled as a Bitcoin event, because mentioning BTC is a deterrent for nocoiners.
I agree!
That would be cool!
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We're doing it tonight with nostr:nprofile1qqsr5qnsn6medetj3vexljqqvy99gfdrgsp7hs9f52kdvrryz6gwkrspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5ar7pk0 and Thunder Road Media.
Boostbeach.live 7pm CT
TRM was the crew behind the scenes setting up the stage and technical aspects for Ainsley and other live streamed shows youve likely seen before.
What an idea...
Its literally what we are doing... TONIGHT
All of it and MORE...
Automatic splits baked in via TheSplitKit so its transparent to the sender, who gets what, from the onset. No mystery where the value is going.
Zaps/boosts are tied to IRL triggers. Certain boost amounts will cause certain events to happen on stage!
Leaderboards and gamified competition. Boost/zap your way to the top!
How to watch? Go to boostbeach.live at 7pm CT.
Catch the music video pre-show by Homegrown Hits the hour before on any PC2.0 compatible apps (like fountain or v4vmusic.com )
When I got to the screen explodes I stopped reading for a moment and pictured the blood and body parts being spread over the studio audience
Sorry, but you're not invited.
As long as the stage isn't in the EU it could work
Ah! Made me laugh and then I got sad.
The future of #Value4Value live music is going to be so unbelievably rad.
(And by 'future' of course I mean artists waking tf up and following in the footsteps of folks like nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7cnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uqzq2x2qxdh3dy5cfdfmgkkgkt44pgpcl5ekyfs9ewtuaywukflevkvug4au3, nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqythwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnxd46zuamf0ghxy6t6qqsgsp3h9t6329dlfthcqu53h9jg06scymykdf2ed09gv6tmtk9j80qlr90st, nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmvqyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqpq3j8h4ce4d07tp0lh4vg6c6wjdtdc02caj98kg70sv3th2za437gss3j30f, nostr:nprofile1qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnhd9hx2tcqyqtvkjecl6d8fzmxprm2t9538xfdl3gfqefyeqc3e5mqh3qzy24egegsf56, nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7cnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qy88wumn8ghj7mn0wvhxcmmv9uqzp3z2kmhwkwswt4wgmzhg9tadpcuhhhaujgqd0k8u8ms5560f7aqvxkyuuk by utilizing the tech we ALREADY HAVE)
V4V as easy as making a post
https://pubpay.me/live/nevent1qqs0u4se9xhkzq4wyqnkkx27jypku9gma8atzpu0l3edv3e2s9n2ttcuzfc8w
Tune in tonight for some instant gratification. Tonight is a tech showcase.
Not our first, wont be the last.
Not only is all that you describe happening TONIGHT but interactive elements have been placed across the stage. YOUR zaps (depending on the amount) can also trigger certain effects live on stage.
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Good timing on that note. Tune in tonight for some instant gratification.
We're doing all that and more, TONIGHT 7pm CT
Simply go to boostbeach.live
Results from the last time we put on a show. Nostr needs to catch up on what we've been doing for years now.
Credit to nostr:nprofile1qqsr5qnsn6medetj3vexljqqvy99gfdrgsp7hs9f52kdvrryz6gwkrspz3mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq3vamnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwwpexjmtpdshxuet5ar7pk0 and Thunder Road Media
Momentum in Bitcoin has been gravitating towards Arts and Artists. Without culture in Bitcoin you lose the community, the meaning and eventually the entire thing. nostr:nprofile1qqs96w4cwmpqdgm66wcffcstlsu5rhel5gdpttyw5akkjxz8x7ykdxspzpmhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwghszxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eekummjwsh8xmmrd9skctc3lg79j is enabling artists to keep the momentum alive https://primal.net/e/ 🤘🧡🙏