What do you see as the most inconvenient aspect of nostr?
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Not being able to transact in fiat 😏
Onboarding new users
That's a huge topic. Kinda the reason I posted this to begin with.
Is there a specific step which seems challenging?
I’ve been wanting to create a video on TikTok explaining how to use it. When I get to finding relays, I struggle to explain them in a way that they’ll maintain interest / not technical. I don’t want to have to explain what they are, but it’s an important part.
Right I think the relay management might be the least sexy and also most critical element of nostr (it's in the name)
I just saw this idea in another reply:
I like that. I think another solution might be relay / client integration. Maybe there’s multiple options in the onboarding: recommend free relays, and recommended paid relays (some relay / client agreement for split pay upon end user sign up). That way they don’t have to go to each website and signup individually. Maybe there’s work to be done on the relay side to make it easy to integrate payment / signup on the client side.
I would love that. Going to the paid relay sites and copying pasting invoives is painful.
Surely we'll laugh about all of that in a few years. It'll get integrated eventually.
Too complicated. It is what it is: people don’t have the patience for that.
nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr would you be interested in an integration with my paid relay? Don’t know if this would require a new NIP. I would pay you a % of what I charge. I think easy integration would reduce the resistance substantially.
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understanding the best setup for relays to connect to
Agreed. I haven't adjusted my relays in a very long time because I don't want to mess with it.
It might be nice if I could press a button and copy someone else's relay setup.
Imagine a global curated list of trusted relays which clients sync and enable automatically. With an option to deactivate this setting for the pros.
I like that idea. It's all about usability + optionality.
Some people will freak out cause they see that as a centralizing element, but it takes no time at all to switch relays.
I wonder how hard it would be to become a trusted relay and how those scores would be managed though.
Remember PGP signing parties who usually took and sometimes still take place at events like Fosdem? Could be a practical approach.
I'm not familiar with that event, but I like where your thinking is directed.
On the centralized topic and building “the relay web of trust”.
Imagine relays get a score on how trustworthy they are. This could factor in an initial score given by humans (running already trusted relays) + let’s say usage per client count. The more a relay gets used the more trustworthy it is. If it gets delisted from the clients it simply fades away over time if it falls under a certain threshold (threshold: at minimum the initial value given by the humans).
Problem I see: acceptance, because it has a smell of censorship possibilities.
The part I'm still unsure of is how to actually measure relay performance. I suppose community reviews could do that, but would community members with a high trust score have weighted reviews?
It all comes down to trust at the end of the day. Like if Gigi and Odell trust a relay I would probably trust it as well.
nip66
Interesting. I need to brush up on my nips.
its like a distributed version of nostr watch. using events and monitors. anyone can be a monitor and publish their metrics/vouch for relays and their geo location/settings/features.
in the far future, it will prob drive all relay discovery using pure nostr events.
Thanks for the rundown
I would say so, too.
This would also contribute to the "personally known and therefore trustworthy" theme.
If you're using Amethyst the following might be useful: https://vitor.npub.pro/post/relay-setup/
Can't upload longform videos without extra steps, no voice messages.
I have seen people post videos from IPFS, but haven't used it yet.
Voice notes would be super cool!
I can’t tell if it’s my old ass phone or nostr apps crashing atm
Reading a note, only to have it be replaced with a message saying that it can't load, or be found on relays. 🤬
I would really like if those 'can't be displayed by your relay' messages would give me some direction on how to fix it.
Even better a button to add whatever relay I'm missing.
Also, seeing links to Primal hosted images instead of images.
When I go back from reading a post it takes me 6 or so posts up or down from the one I just backed out of.
Interesting yeah, that happens to me as well. I think it has to do with thumbnails and other media loading slowly.
What client do you use most?
Lack of gif button 🤣
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freedom
There's a thousand clients, each of which have their own rough edges. There isn't one client that works flawlessly.