The OP_RETURN War: Who Controls Bitcoin w/ nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qyt8wumn8ghj7ct4w35zumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcqyp60l3gucvq4pnmekm9nzmf6zh8nx24jngu0aj0tfp9tz4gad5v9v94ulq2

We discuss:

- The OP_RETURN Debate

- Spam & Filters

- Risks of Miner Centralisation

- Bitcoin Core

Watch it here... https://youtu.be/FZ-nD9hSaeg

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"The OP_RETURN Debate" is actually an indicator that people have become soo bored because seemingly nothing bad seems to happen in bitcoin dev land, that this has become the subject to argue about......

I think that is a VERY GOOD THING!!

stay #Bitcoin

"The OP_RETURN Debate" is actually an indicator that the immune system of Bitcoin is still working… eh… to some extent.

it’s super significant actually if you project this trajectory further into the future

Thanks Danny, looking forward to this, must admit been very busy last few months and so not sure what the hell is going on! Haha

Mechanic is on 🔥

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Masterful video and explanation. You need to watch it asap.

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Great questions and great answers. Thank you Danny and Mechanic!

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Great episode! I agree with most of nostr:nprofile1qythwumn8ghj7ct5d3shxtnwdaehgu3wd3skuep0qyt8wumn8ghj7ct4w35zumn0wd68yvfwvdhk6tcqyp60l3gucvq4pnmekm9nzmf6zh8nx24jngu0aj0tfp9tz4gad5v9v94ulq2 views. It was an important talk after the episode with nostr:nprofile1qqsrwseygwgtu5688flrkwudqnwws0mvj52tsx5e07emzg7qwthe77qv68ayf, with whom I definitely don't agree.

Amazing pod. Ty for having a measured discussion about this.

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Listening to this interview, @nostr:npub1wnlu28xrq9gv77dkevck6ws4euej4v568rlvn66gf2c428tdrptqq3n3wr the word you were looking for...when you use truth to tell a lie...is a Sophism 🤙

Shit, I had sorta made up my mind in the other direction, but now I am back at undecided again :-D

Is going for the option of allowing larger OP_RETURNS but keeping all other filtering and adding more a complete cop-out of an opinion?

I would like the direction to be for less miner centralization AND less spam.

The reason for going for this would be to make it more likely that spam gets put on OP_RETURN, since that is a way that may not suddenly get filtered out.

Have not thought this through at all :-P

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after listening to Shinobi and Mechanic, whom do you agree more with? nostr:nprofile1qyxhwumn8ghj7cnjvghxjme0qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcqyrtl8gkckam5xwfxugu46v2e3yhgg70gwx5qpeqp7prlkz9dzlejkvg2vts

For me one thing was for sure, Shinobi was condescending and calling us stupid. He commented saying who the hell are we to decide what is spam. But who is he to tell me what goes in my node?

I don't like the way decisions are taken and knowledgeable people get banned, but I strongly disagree with Mechanic's point that "I don't want to route your transactions because they're spam".

There needs to be a default of routing ALL VALID transactions, otherwise how exactly is the network supposed to work?

For my node, I have 0 incentive to route YOUR transactions, monetary or otherwise, I don't care. I only want mine.

If nodes (node operators) think this way, we won't have any propagation in the end, or we'll pay centralized routing nodes instead of everyone supporting it.

I disagree. I absolutely do have an incentive to relay your transactions because I also want you to relay mine. But if your transactions fills up block space with spam making it harder for me to get my transaction onto a block, I do not want to relay it

Who decides what's spam? I only care if a transaction is valid as per the Bitcoin concensus rules, not what it's used for.

Just listen to this, the more I hear about it, The more I believe this is because ethereum is dying slowly, and they want to migrate, but they are not yet willing to trust Solana.

#shipcoiners