I was at an extended family gathering for the Eid al-Adha holiday today. At these gatherings, the older generation in this family tends to not speak great English, so they normally speak among themselves in Arabic, while the younger generation speaks English, with some periods where we all speak together and my husband translates.

The center of this gathering was a newborn baby. My husband’s cousin had a child, and he was so cute and we took turns holding him and playing with him.

The oldest uncle is a retired doctor and although he normally speaks in Arabic among his peers, he actually speaks fluent English as well when there is context for it, since he used to live and work abroad. But he rarely speaks at these gatherings, in either Arabic or English. It’s a running joke that he is grumpy and rarely has much to say, and just kind of zones out at these things. Sometimes when people ask him what he is thinking, he makes a dry concise joke or a funny brief criticism of someone with like a stone cold expression. So usually at least once someone asks him, just to see what kind of grumpy thing he will say in response, since you never know what it’ll be but it’s never boring.

When the family was figuring out which coast town we should take a vacation to in a couple weeks, the uncle was quiet and eventually someone asked him what his choice is, and he sarcastically said “El Arish” which is the Egyptian coast town right near Gaza, to be a buzzkill. The joke being that it’s an obviously bad choice for a vacation.

A while later when people were talking about movies, he was again doing his zoned out expression, so my husband and cousin were whispering to me to ask him what he’s thinking about this time. I was hesitant but they were like, “do it, it’ll be great.”

So I asked what he’s thinking about. With his perfect English, he’s like, “You and Mohamed should have a child by the time you visit us next year. You’re getting old.”

Everyone was like, “…oh shit” since they thought he would say a bad movie or tell me I watch too many movies or something. One cousin was like, “uncle, they will when and if they are ready!”

But the uncle continued. “You two think you are busy now, but it only gets worse from here. The older you get the harder it will be, and you’re already getting old. Both of you are too smart and overthinking it, waiting for a perfect moment that will never come. If you two wait too long, you might not be able to do it, or there’s a higher chance the child will have health problems. Just do it now, while you are still in your mid-thirties, don’t let yourself get any older. And if you don’t do it, naught but regret and darkness awaits.”

So everyone was facepalming, since this was not the direction they were expecting. I was like, “thank you for the blunt advice, we will consider it! 😅”

One aunt who doesn’t speak English asked what he said, so one cousin said, “He called her a hag, basically.”

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Sounds like a memorable gathering with some unexpected advice from the wise uncle! It seems like he has a knack for surprising everyone with his blunt yet insightful words. Who knew that behind the grumpy facade lies such direct wisdom about starting a family? The mix of humor and seriousness in his words definitely caught everyone off guard. And hey, at least it sparked some interesting conversations, even if it was an unexpected turn of events! Family gatherings sure have a way of keeping things lively and unpredictable.

I get you:) But I also think he had a good point. Very valid for myself too:)

You are right. El Arish is a good choice.

Damn, I butchered the joke. Better version:

Nine month later …

Lyn Alden makes a trip to El Arish

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This story is incredible. Something prescient about a senile old person who doesn’t give a shit about feelings. His truth, straight to the veins.

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Have the kid

Don't want to invade on your privacy so here goes:

If you want a kid & are overthinking it, just stop & go for it. You're a bitcoiner, babies are meant for bitcoiners.

If you don't want a kid, respect. Nobody should decide for you.

If the situation is complicated, I'll let myself out now.

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I'm sorry, it's just too long, so I didn't read it.

You seem to have too much free time to write long posts.

If you haven't already, just have a kid.

Peace.

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But he has a point, am a dad since a year now. Took us some years to get pregnant so ended up being parents a few years later than expected, you just never know. My uncle told me when his two boys were little that he became a dad too late, everything hurts and he lost his cool a lot quicker the older he got (his words).

But the little dude is amazing love (almost) every moment and it really helped me gain perspective, I now much more often just say f* that it's not important I'll go play / hang out with the little guy. Get energy back and achieved more in the last year than probably the 5 before.

Based uncle, such candor is getting scarce around me these days

i am offended by this pesimism!

I'd like to think that I'm picking up the slack nowadays lol

every effort to disturb illusions is appreciated

Occums Razor. Lyn Alden’s genetics are great for humanity. Have a kid. 🧬🥰

Love it 💜

People think that Dad Jokes are lame because dads don't have a sense of humor. Now that I'm a decade in I have a different understanding. A dad sees something funny, but they've made this mistake before, so they stop and think about what they're going to say. It was damn funny, but it's also going to offend literally everyone in the room. So he does the right thing, and keeps it to himself.

But damn... it was funny. He's still laughing to himself. Maybe there's some way to say it *without* offending everyone. Yeah, maybe this other angle... well, nevermind, that doesn't really work either. The room is so quiet though... ok, there's a silly pun that kind of fits, let's just say that.

But if you took him aside... Really poked him about it... Committed to getting that real answer... He might just tell you what he's been thinking the whole time. Because honestly, he just wanted someone to hear what he had to say, without it being a big deal.

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He is right. Mental illness and all sorts of risks increase. So, if you want to ever want to have kids, now is the best time ❤️ If you don't want to, you might want to reconsider ;)

Ah my. What a clash of traditional family values and the professional perspective of western economics. I remember drinking mint tea with a man I met in Casablanca and meeting his extended family all living in one home. Eid was really off putting being an English speaker because everyone has sheep they are keeping the week leading up to the actual celebration, And the kids are really aggressive towards the sheep, Knowing they are about to be sacrificed and cooked for the celebration. Not knowing this makes the actual day feel really bad, But it is actually a feast and celebration. Don’t let it startle you that they want you to have children, But at the same time, Consider how it will play out. Not being able to plan a life in both America and the other country is what stopped me from having children internationally, And I still do not want to have just American children, But I would say you are much closer to arriving at that point in your life than I was with my former partner. I don’t need to tell you, Do the math, Take your time, And make wise decisions. You will be happier without making a lifelong commitment than you will be rushing ahead to appease a traditional family. But don’t give up on them either!

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I have no idea about your age.

And you might simply consider not having children ever.

But he’s imperically correct about the right age health wise to have children 😅

He’s right

I really enjoy your stories. Thanks for sharing some of your intriguing intimate stories

Sounds just like my family 🤣

What a king

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He’s 100% correct.

You don’t want the complications that likely come from a late age birth.

Mid 30’s is already pushing it.

At the VERY least freeze your eggs now.

But seriously, he’s right.

If you don’t want them now, you will want them later. Then, it will be too late.

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Thanks.

lol, you gotta love families. And he’s right, and you already know that 😂🫂

With him on this one. Lots of little Alden babies. I want to be schooled on Macro by a toddler! 🤪

😮 That's intense. I'm impressed that you shared this story.

Also, having children is incredible. Highly recommend.

Well? Are ya? Lol.

Others in this thread already said it, but: he's right.

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420 sats for the baby fund. Get freaky girl 😜

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Family hey! 🧡

He's right you know.

The value of the day to day is so significantly deeper as a parent. Was immediately self evident. Contribute to the evolution of the species, please.

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Lyn, what I love about the older generation is that they’re kind of like children in this sense: they really don’t care what others think, and they’re happy to let the words fly, filter free. It’s cool when its G rated and kids are near. One of the best gifts you can give children is the older generation who can teach them wisdom. Such good stuff many don’t see the value in. I’ll pray for you as I hope you can be blessed with a little one(s) if you desire. Thanks for sharing.

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That might sound harsh and salvage. But deep down inside, we all know that he speaks the truth. Plain and simple.

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You could always give him a bottle of lube and tell him to **** himself. But that’s a judgement call of course.

I love your stories thanks for sharing Lyn!

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Being a father has been the greatest joy I’ve ever had in life.

I just took my 31 y.o. Son to the Detroit airport today. He and his GF went back to Austin and I flew to Boston, to drive up here to porcfest, in New Hampshire.

For me, it never gets easier saying goodbye to him. I wish he lived a lot closer to his mother and I.

It’s really quite sad, each and every time we part for me (and I’m not very soft person at all - but this gets me every time)

But my18 years with him, was the highlife of my life. Hands down.

I have an older step daughter with his mother as well.

We should have had more children (or adopted). Biggest regret of my life. Bar none.

He and his GF don’t seem too interested in having children (I think there is quite a bit of Nihilism in the 30ish y.o. Crowd - and I kind of don’t blame them after what they’ve been through with these last 4 yrs of Bullshit)

BUT - I tell him, if u don’t want to have children - go save one…

or even more, by adopting.

He says - he needs to get his own life together first.

I disagree.

They both make good money, and just made the intelligent move to leave California for Texas and save a boat load of money per annum. I say - u r never ready. Never really.

When he was 3 days old - I was driving to a town 90 mins away to build a pizzeria. I already had a couple, but now I had 4 mouths to feed. And I was scared shitless…

But I had so wanted a child.

Best thing that ever happened to me. Best thing ever.

I hope you make the choice to have it save a child or 3.

It’s the most fulfilling, happiest, saddest, best, warmest, hardest thing you may ever do. And all the pain - and there will probably be some pain - is all worth it.

I wish you well.

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I like your Uncle. Keep him close.

How adorable is the condescension with which those who believe they possess the truth give advice.

Phrases like "when you are ready" or "you will understand when you mature" only demonstrate that lack of choices, either you do what I believe or you are wrong.

This is very clear with the issue of reproduction and our fear of loneliness is also clear.

Well, I have chosen the path of not having children and also to think for myself.

In life you have to choose between several possibilities and give up certain things, that does not make one path right and the other wrong, both have their pros / cons.

I’d take an uncle who speaks his mind this way over anyone who only says polite things I want to hear.

IMHO (and experience) you just got a real and true good advice 😉

Do it for the community! 🤣

Oh shit! Haha.

This, but in Morocco. nostr:npub19pj6f0nc9q6xr26qe3g8m6xe3hwe0d6p6zcvf57cm3kayghjdj0slnlenu 🤣

I agree with your uncle. But it has to work for you and your husband.

'For all we know, our love will grow

That's what the man said

So won't you listen to what the man said

He said

The wonder of it all baby'

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I hope you do - and I hope the same for myself.

Nothing has ever been made worse by children, only better.

I love that two of my siblings have four children each.

It's what I look forward to at family gatherings - seeing how they've grown, what they are interested in, trying to subtly influence them in wise directions.

Go make some joy :) the world will still be here for you to conquer.

How about connecting a LN-address, which will enable plebs to zap you freedom money?

I can tell you it's bloody tiring at any age, but you could adopt and skip forward a few years 😀