TY! I can't fault your thinking. And also, Telegram also has this nested pattern, see e.g. Nostr Relay Ops Collective on TG.

All roads are leading to "relay is community"

If this pattern were to take off I can see power-user centric apps for relay admin sitting alongside client apps. Which would be pretty cool for power users, and super interesting in organisational contexts.

How to you admin the whitelist? Are you editing flat files in code?

Do any relays have API endpoints for configuration which an admin app could build upon (add whitelist npubs, words, etc)?

Yet to try this but it sounds like a very cool and useful approach to crafting your own feed. TLDR, push the curation to the relay, run a dumb client.

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Thanks! For clarity I was mostly thinking about the UI pattern in your client app. E.g. if my community currently in Slack has multiple "channels", I can replace Slack with a relay, and the channels with NIP-29 groups, but there may need a visual hierarchy of "Relay>Group" or at least a grouping of Relay1Group1,2,3,Relay2Group1,2,3, etc.

Just musing. Trying to figure out the correct pattern

This looks awesome. I am thinking on these lines for Fishburners startup community. I wonder.

Could it handle one relay with multiple NIP-29 groups inside?

Trying to figure out the recipe book!

Need more hellthread?

Yes, I use nostrelites (and my own HAVEN that also has WOT). Very good, no spam, even "global" has some signal.

If I wanted a relay with NIP-29 support, which relay should I use? #asknostr

It worked

Running Nostream ... (I hope)

I looked into this and thought it would be great. I am not very technical, but failed to find a solution for secp256k1 support. I believe Nostr and Bitcoin share this need. So there must be a solution as Casa uses Yubikey for Bitcoin multisig quorum.

I think a USB+NFC variant which can be used on phone and desktop would be an interesting UX

At nostr:nprofile1qqsyn7pemjl5cxzgeputgu9cnlv0n0fjj3c94e4qac4sx7uxnzq70fspzdmhxue69uhhqatjwpkx2urpvuhx2ue0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejz7yjtaws (and doing a little testing)

I may have to go offline until next week.

I come to Nostr to escape US propoganda.

Everyone is talking about squirrels.

Is this ... Freedom?

12 word mnemonic + BIP-85 index?

Stand back.

Nostter.app has this and it's very useful

Export Nsec with password (format is called Ncryptsec) and save it to an NFC card as a custom URL "nostr:". Then tap phone, Amethyst opens and prompts for password. Very easy restore to new phone or transient login on untrusted device. nostr:nprofile1qqsd03kszje59q2m52wy3u6yne8squ7lsn626kq2u9e48qzp564mdwqpg3mhxw309aek7anzd96x6vn9deuxvu34da6rvutnvdmhjdt9wfkkgenxvfchxcmexcm8w6tjdd38x6t8we3hx6r4d4uh5cnzw9jzummwd9hkutcpr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9uju7t00fhhycfwwahhymry9uq5gamn8ghj7ap4xa3xcdekxf6hv6mndg6hv6m2xfsngurkws6xscmdvem8wctzdsex7dnwveuxceng0f6xxcnvwphhw6fkd968zepwdahxjmmw9ufht6rl got me onto it.

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