What did you expect, nobody trying to abuse, control, dismiss, cancel #Bitcoin ?

It is either decentralized meaning everyone can mine, run a node, transmit transactions or it is not decentralized.

Since humans are far from being perfect there will be abuse or attempts for abuse.

The only effect with a less decentralized system is that you are waiting for the inevitable bad actor to gain control.

Monero perhaps isn't a scam but can/will only work in a limited setting.

Fine If it suits some of your needs, but don't confuse it with a better alternative for #Bitcoin.

How can there be to much adoption ?

#Bitcoin is a Protocol.

For the usual arguments limiting use / adoption there is LN or something will be made.

Leaving our personal believes as who or what is more welcome or better suited to use #Bitcoin.

But it is either free to use or will be abused and prevented from doing its core job being money/sov.

#Bitcoin is a protocol.

In that view there are users and no users.

Early or late is a bit cringing, although I admit I also fall easily for it.

The fact almost non early Bitcoiers have made it, as lost, dismissed, sold their corn early is just proof they didn't had any clue what they were putting Money in so didn't understand at all.

Those holding #Bitcoin but using Monero......

Holding #Bitcoin is using, transferring to Monero is using not the smartest usage but perhaps better than transfer to fiat.

I don't see the need to transfer to Monero but people are free to do what they want.

All those who switched to Monero long ago will admit they would have rather hold on to #Bitcoin.

If not they are not honest.

Money has more aspects tha just privacy !

I am a #Bitcoin maxi.

I can't and won't even try to argue about all plus 21 million shitcoins out there.

#Bitcoin is the first and happens to be the best Money available.

Your beloved privacy aspect is the only argument one holding for Monero and I think it is more damaging than needed.

But there are many more aspects.

#Bitcoin gives me all privacy I need.

Adoption will convince you sooner or later. one way or the other.

Most would dismiss the next #Bitcoin as silly !

It is the only true test for a new realy innovating idea that will rock the world.

It is simple: Friends don't let Friends shitcoin.

At what point do we have provided enough arguments and is it time for others to do some thinking?

My experience is if the head is to full there is simply no place for new concepts and thoughts, so stop waisting time and effort.

I thought about this too and I'm not worried.

Well #Bitcoin either succeeds or fails 😇

But if it succeeds most WW value transactions will be on-chain and be of rather high value and if you check the number of transactions being made WW be a lot and those will be able and willing to pay substantial fees.

Besides that #Bitcoin will be just as much needed as current financial payment systems, so big players and Governments will make sure it is running secured and stable.

Those two combined will should be enough!

Only a few can imagine the impact of perfect money /absolute scarcity.

The coming #Bitcoin-rush will make all previous Gold-rushes seem like a walk in the park.

I try to prepare but I'm convinced it is actually going to be scary 😨.

Please these attempts are pathetic.

Every sane person sees you, and all others promoting shitcoins, are just trying to abuse the reach of #Bitcoin flora.

There are more shitcoins than there ever will be #Bitcoins.

So don't ask me to argue about them we can't there are too many, and most not even worth one line.

If you Shitcoin be my guest but use or start your own shitcoin flora, don't abuse #Bitcoin.

I think we simply ask too much from those leaders.

In the old days a king needed to be on topic on most stuff, from how to efficiently farm, to monetary issues, war, etc., basically covering everything.

If they didn't know they relied on trusted counselors.

Now transfer that prefered know all to current complex world.

It is simply not possible to even come close to understanding all needed field of interests with current complexity off every topic involved.

The scope is so vast and the fiat mindset so widespread it is just as hard to form a capable trustworthy team around you that works.

This last aspect is clearly visible in every single Government.

The complexity, size, and forces to turn to the dark side is just too big.

And if somehow solved, the huge power structure is so tempting to sociopaths it will be a matter of time before the wrong person penitrates and comes to power..

Downscaling in size, reach and power is one of the solutions I see.

If that means a bit less technology, luxury, convenience, and so on, I think I will cherish that !

Well ain't it nice that it is free to use or not to use.

I use Lightning almost on a daily basis, so telling me it doesn't work is..., well to use your own words; you probably have been propagandized, could even be by yourself !

You clearly are stucked to not being able to see the difference between SOV (your life savings) and stuff you make daily payments with.

Not strange since that differentiation is so easy to confuse it seduced the whole of mankind to give up Gold ownership via Gold certificates to finally Fiat.

Now you just want to repeat that again showing you haven't learned much or are not willing to learn or just want to sell a shitcoin.

On chain was never intended for WW adoption and will the coming decades not be able to do so and I think it is also not needed.

In fact Satoshi himself realized and stated this.

Plenty of explanation available why it can't be done without losing key properties, and why it is not needed.

Lightning is perfect suitable for small transaction and so successful that even I as plep could do every transaction I would like to onchain within the next block if I'm willing to pay the 2-10 sats/b.

And that is just a first attempt for a second layer and just a second layer.

All shitcoins and their fan boys are just looking for non existing problems to sell their shit.

Those willing to sacrifice some freedom for some convenience or perceived security, are not worthy freedom nor convenience nor security.

Shit coiners sooner or later reveil themselves...

Giving up self custody or releasing your personal shitcoin, it is all the same to me...

Once the #Bitcoin rush takes off, Government strategic reserves, pension funds, etc., starts chasing the few #Bitcoin available, we will pass Gold parity and never look back.

Before that time #Bitcoin is on sale.

I use to call them "Toxic Maxi Strategy".

Who knows if it is going to be their next change?

At $ 100k it won't be easy for most.

If one manages to save 1k a month it will take some 9 years to get there.

If #Bitcoin keeps getting more expensive it will be come even harder...

But it doesn't make much sense to focus on a number.

#Bitcoin is sound money, preventing being robbed by inflation and instead is deflationary.

As such it is never too late to start saving in #Bitcoin.

It proves reading the White Paper doesn't mean understanding it !

#Bitcoin stimulates honest long term thinking.

That is the only sane way forward.

Especially compared to the unfair sort term thinking triggered by fiat.

We need to prevent humans to act like bacteria in a petri-disc.