#[2] agrees

I get there's a huge amount of friction right now if your want to use self-custodial lightning in the wild. Very few people are gonna deal with waiting for Tor to talk to their raspiblitz or spin up their own vps node.

To me, seizure/censorship resistance is the most important property, tied with the fixed issuance schedule so I personally can't say Bitcoin exposure is more important for people, but values are subjective.

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I'm in both for the freedom but I also understand there will be users like yourself who find nostr and don't really care about Bitcoin.

Bitcoin shouldn't be a prerequisite but I'd hope that those who are choosing to use it in conjunction with nostr can have the most minimal of tradeoffs out of the box

Same 🤙

You're right about low stakes custodial amounts in practice, but I think it's important that the tradeoffs remain understood and that a culture of self-custody still exists amongst bitcoiners in the era of lightning.

Bitcoin moves fast and lightning moves even faster, so I suspect the culture could shift just as quickly to where there becomes a disconnect between how we talk about on-chain bitcoin and L2. I personally wouldn't want that.

Pour over is the most consistent method and the easiest to control all variables. French press has better extraction but things like temperature are tough to control for. It's also harder to figure out between roasts.

That's outside my wheelhouse but I agree. I know people are thinking about this but it doesn't get discussed publicly enough on here.

I wish that were the case but even bitcoiners are running custodial lightning on here.

I'm not sure this scales well but we should definitely be doing our best to try.

I agree with the proposal

My prediction is that this era of free public relays will be short lived lest we fall victim to the tragedy of the commons.

Second prediction is that as nostr grows, there will be clients that are also lightning wallets. This part sucks because they will likely be custodial. If nostr grows beyond bitcoiners, I think someone will see this as an obvious UX improvement to onboard non-bitcoiners who don't want to learn two new things (nostr and bitcoin). I'm not happy about it, but I think this is where things will end up.

There's a level of trust involved if you're using someone else's domain through a paid NIP-05 verification service. And in these cases it's pretty easy to impersonate others since it relies on the service operator to screen for fake accounts

This one has been really consistent for me

Move to Austin and you'll never have to fight that fight again lol

This was real good. I guess I will finally read the book.

Just a low level troll

I've been waiting for you to realize I've been doing that to you 😂

Up the irons 🤘

Are you the nostr liver king

I see your point. Maybe scale the user icons down after the first row if you get enough likes?