Nostr Web Client

I'm not supporting a fork as of yet:

- We haven't really tried relay policy at scale yet, let's see what happens with Knots at 10-20% percent more of the network first.

- Forking is always a technical risk. Remember we're in this mess to begin with largely because of a unintended side effect of the taproot soft fork. Any fork must be carefully considered.

- If not backed by the core camp (i.e the fork is contentious) a chain split will probably occur, with deleterious consequences for the Bitcoin market and ecosystem.

- I have a suspicion that some people in the core camp are trying to bait us into forking off into a variant of Bitcoin instead of doing anything about spam. I have no evidence of this though, it's more of a gut feeling.

- Consensus is really hard and slow to change. That's a good thing overall. But not so good when playing whack a mole with spammers.

- Relay filters is actually better for this since you can change them on your own node without coordinating. It's not quite so powerful as consensus but a lot faster to respond.

Motorist 2mo ago 💬 1

Even if a fork results in a chain split, you can just hang on to both sides of the split until the dust settles.

Motorist 2mo ago 💬 2

After all that gaslighting about miner centralization, fee estimation, and ineffectiveness of filters. We finally get a mask off moment. This is the real reason Core hates filters.

Motorist 2mo ago 💬 2

Imagine a successful company trying to copy its failed competitors. That's what Core's strategy is

Motorist 2mo ago 💬 1

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Motorist 2mo ago 💬 2

55% of remaining entries eliminated in week 5. We say so long to 2023 champ

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also eliminated.

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SURVIVE. On to Week 6!

Replying to

Mel

So do humans. And the real world? There is no such thing. There is no game to win.

Motorist 2mo ago

Find the happy medium. Be cooperative without being a doormat. Good for game theory simulations, also good general rules to live by

Replying to

it's me, real fake

well... in iterated prisoners dilemma game, Always Uncooperative is the best strategy.

Motorist 3mo ago

Nope https://blogs.cornell.edu/info2040/2015/09/11/iterated-prisoners-dilemma-and-long-term-strategies/

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 7

Bitcoiners have an incomplete understanding of game theory. While it is true that in single-turn games malicious agents fair better than cooperative agents, this is flipped on its head for multi-turn games. Cooperative actors outperform malicious ones handily. Bitcoins treat everything as a single-turn game. It's really not. The real world is multi-turn.

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 5

Yes, they are defending shitting in the pool. There's something wrong with these people 💩

Replying to

MAV21

Developers will ship code you don’t like. The beauty of open source protocols is you can choose if you want to run it or not.

Motorist 3mo ago

Correct, but let's not pretend open source is a magical defefense against bad devs

Replying to

bitcoinlimit

hugging my pre segwit node

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

Doesn't that fuqup your fee estimation? 🤣

Replying to

MAV21

I feel like this knots vs core debate is mainly due to bitcoiners having nothing productive to do so they just make a lot of noise.

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 2

Speak for yourself. Some of us have jobs and came out of a happy social media retirement to keep bCore from fuqing Bitcoin

Replying to

ODELL

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

Roger may have been correct in his criticism while simultaneously being wrong with his proposed solution

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Replying to

jb55

- peer reviewed changes

- latest features (bitcoin-node multiprocess)

- performance improvements

- policies more aligned with consensus for more accurate fee estimation

- detect theft of coins (attackers could now exploit knots users by hiding theft with large op_returns)

- incentive aligned to encourage protocols to not stuff garbage in non-op_return outputs

- less knobs so that users don't open themselves up to attacks (like above) and spam incentivization

- project not managed by an unstable person with a hero complex with security practices so bad they lost 200+ btc on an unprotected server

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Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

I said their BEST argument. Not their dumbest arguments

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

Prosecutor: Why did you voluntarily relay CP from your server when you were aware that alternative clients existed that would filter out those images?

Coretard: So my fee estimation would be slightly better.

Good luck with this argument 😳

Replying to

Gigi

lol. lmao even

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Motorist 3mo ago

Bro your fee estimation is FUBAR. Are you running Knots or something?

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

Timing is everything

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

I may not agree with how you use Bitcoin, but I will defend to the death your right to filter

Replying to

Jeff Swann

A lot of tone deaf lefties are desperately trying to get good people to hate them when Charlie was most likely killed by Israel. Govt ops only become more effective when people are disarmed & divided. The 2nd amendment is as necessary now as ever.

Long range shooter, tagless getaway van, multiple decoys on the ground, Charlie recently said it's not necessary to blindly support everything Israel does (indicating a change in position), friend said Charlie was worried they'd kill him if he changed his position on Israel. Israel has lost the PR war, they stop a major influencer from adding to the strong chorus against them, they distract from their attacks on Qatar to further disrupt peace talks, & they distract from the Senate rejection of the release of the Epstein files.

But is everyone continues to connect the dots, they only dig a deeper hole.

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Motorist 3mo ago 💬 2

I don't think Israel has anything to gain with this.

Replying to

Kudzai Kutukwa

She is so sorry for turning NZ into an open air prison, the clot shot mandates and the numerous lives that were destroyed because she was on a power trip.

Motorist 3mo ago 💬 1

There has to be a penalty to make future tyrants think twice about putting everyone in house arrest

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Motorist 3mo ago 💬 3

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