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Is this woth it? 🤔

To the relay operators out there.

Is it a viable option to implement a "pay-per-action" model, I mean something like what stacker news does?.

Pay a small amount to post notes, maybe to retreave them from the relay (would that be equivalent to pay for MB uploaded or downloaded or something like that?)

I'm just thinking outloud and exploring the idea, maybe is dumb, not possible or undesirable

Based

Notes are SAFU? 🤔

I'm testing Phoenix for the time being, so far is a good experience but well see

I don't think that is quite right, dont forget that people are different, they wont go to the extent of running their own nodes ot thwy will but they need a fist step into all of this.

Muun, Blue wallet (LN), etc... serve that purpose well, and nobody knows what the market needs (otherwise they would be making it happend and doing a ton of money in the process) so if people vomuntarily uses that wallets maybe there is something there for us to learn.

Of course I hope all aspire to be self soveraign but is a long long journey, I think we need to be patient

🎼🎼Hey, I just met you, and this is crazy

But here's my npub, so Zapp⚡ me, maybe 🎙️🎶

The P.L.E.B.S force

I wonder what that should stand for🤔

JJAJAJAJA LMAO

Nono, bah, yeah is neat to have a good desktop client but I was askign because that happened once because I missused that client and made a mistake.

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You want free hosting even death? Poor relay operators 🤣

Are you using Gossip?

Gossip is thevname of a desktop client

lol

https://bluewallet.io/sunsetting-lndhub/

Here, that what they say

As I say, Bitcoin is a solution to a problem many don't think/know they have. This is the clear example, I thoght the same as you when I read that comment in the chat, but that is where we are right now.

IMO people won't get it becaus is a long way and requires a re-writing of deeply embedded ideas, like the "gov is here to help you", "gov will defend you". I think Ideas as basic as such are hard to change for the same reason is hard to change the fundations of a 20-story bulding already built.

Maybe with mobile nodes like Blixt or Phoenix, having the latter a bit more trust involved but still an improvement in my opinion.

I dont know how much of a seameless UX you can achieve in the future without sacrificing self soveraignty, that remains to be seen 🤔

I agree on the facts but with complex systems is hard to say where they will mute, and on a permissionless network people will opt in for custodial services and there is nothing to do about that IMO.

For me is healthy so long people can run they own nodes un the most self soveraign way possible, so permissionless will prevail. Also I see the development of Bitcoin (and any really complex system) as a discovery proces wich almost certanly the stable solutions will be counter intuitive so I really don't mind that the best answer is different than the fisrt draft of Bitcoin. So long the essense is still intact and it can deliver.

For the nostr use case, or the stacker news use case I don't think that is worth it to go full non custodial for most people just for zapp around a few sats here and there but of course privacy needs and self reliance are different for each person

Its people! 100%

fn legends everywere I look