Nostr Web Client

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Founder of holesail.io, an avid reader and a Linux enthusiast. Join me on Keet.io - Holesail.io (invite expires on 2024/6/13 5:01 UTC) pear://keet/yrbaxx3qmntmqgpfwi9ddo7ehqcjwm6nznt41r59u1tnmfz3o93y5m54pmiakkpksq6mjod8otqtj3jyut3ppxgg3idzcryqneekhrhhnpc9pedg

https://holesail.io/

Cameri🐦‍🔥

Nostr's final boss: DNS

Holesail.io can be used as a replacement of DNS, it allows you to use a dynamic IP while keeping the connection string static, while using no DNS system at all.

Disadvantages I can think of: iOS version of holesail pauses as soon as it goes into background so Nostr will work only when the app is open (I am looking for a workaround), there is no web version of Holesail.

But Desktop version of Nostr clients on Windows, Mac, Linux and even Android can utilise Holesail to run and connect to a Nostr node based on a "connection string".

Which OSes will have binaries?

Does the binary need admin privileges on windows to run?

macOS, Linux, Windows (binaries for terminal, GUI app)

Android and iOS -Seperate GUI app

Oooh, gotcha. Yes it can handle those. I may not have the deets on exactly what it does, but I’m pretty sure it does the hole punching and then uses that connection to establish the UDP. I actually think Mad said Keet is run over UDP now that I think of it… 🤔

If I’m wrong about Keet specifically then it’s something else built on Pear, because I remember talking to Maf about this exact thing.

Yes it support anything that runs over TCP, we will provide UDP support in a future release.

Is this for http only, though?

No, it works for anything TCP and will soon support UDP as well.

If you are concerned about the http part, that is only for when you are running websites + it is being served from your local computer to you, so https does not matter here.

Hey! Very glad to learn you're on Nostr.

I work on solid state interpreter personal servers, and hole-punching is a task we'll be looking into very soon as we get deeper into peer-to-peer aspects.

Yeah guy Swann introduced me to Nostr, it's a cool platform.

What is a solid state interpreter personal server?

Would be really cool to have an nostr:npub1aghreq2dpz3h3799hrawev5gf5zc2kt4ch9ykhp9utt0jd3gdu2qtlmhct app that creates reverse-proxy to the LNBits app, and some instruction how to build a project on Vercel or Firebase with a lambda function that forwards every request to your home LNBits.

The major pain with LNBits behind NAT is to actually let others use it outside your home WIFI.

I have not used umbrel but I can look into it 🤔

How?

When I type “holesail holesailMCServer420” and then send a GET request to localhost:8989, how does it find the ip address of the server that used the same connector?

Also, can the connector be a public-private keypair or a string/string-hash pair? Because I want others to send requests to my server without being able to try taking over other peoples’ the requests.

When you do holesail CONNECTOR, it generates a hash that is also your location in the distributed hash table, atm there are two public nodes run by hopepunch team which lets you in on the mesh network of peers.

Anyone can run a public nodes, and it's only used for initially finding first few peers after that other peers tell you where your "peer" is located.

To stop people from taking over, you need to use key, which are automatically generated.

holesail --live 5000

will give you a key

We should build a consortium to recode it in native Kotlin and create a little library for it. Then all apps could use it. I just don't know where to start, holesail has a web of dependencies and I don't really know what each thing does.

This could be possible (though would require some work), you need to embed bare runtime in your java/kotlin application and run holesail-client and holesail-server on it.

It is a tedious and undocumented process atm, but holepunch team is working on new mobile development kit, hopefully that will resolve this and make development easier

Is NAT hole-punching feasible on mobile devices? For some reason I thought it wasn't... But now I can't see why not

Yup, NAT holepunching is working good on mobile devices (iOS and Android both), in fact I have used holesail to access my Windows VNC on mobile

Interesting, but doesn’t this need some centralized coordinator to match the clients to the servers (via the “connector” string)?

What happens if I try running a server with the same connector string as someone else? Is it encrypted?

The lnurl/lightning-address protocols are based on small json payloads. It will be simple for every smartphone wallet to send them as “nostr dms” (with a different ephemeral kind), it will be encrypted, and will also be reliable if you use multiple relays.

Holesail is truly peer to peer and does not need centralised servers.

Also make your connectors strong, long and super random or use auto generated random keys, that will prevent collision.

How does holesail work without a server? 🤔

What Guy Swann said below + it is all peer-to-peer, you are the server and the client.

Has anyone exteral to the holepunch/Pear team analysed the protocol for viability? What are the tradeoffs, potential weaknesses, privacy or scalability issues?

Tradeoffs: None that I can think of, it is your device, your own relays, your own connection.

You are always private, only the people you choose can access your service in private mode, and the publically sharable key lets others access your stuff..

Ideally, if you have an existing service like a local LLM running on your server (say localhost:8888) then you follow the “service template” on the server and use that address. The client template would be for the remote computer you want to connect from and you use the generated connection key and tell it what address you want to use on the second machine (say localhost:8889). Holesail does the magic of making the second address tunnel to the first.

You can do it all easily without docker too by following the holesail docs, but if your terminal session dies you will need to relaunch the connections.

@supersu has first pass apps for Android and iOS that will make mobile access super easy.

nostr:npub1eq94yj8maree90pm53gfr76wdc44su3cwcqmly848xfrv6es6usqg4er58 This sounds super cool, I haven't gotten time to try it out yet. I will do it when I get some time on my hands, also yes the Android app and iOS app will make this super easy.

Good morning Nostr 👋☀️

Wen android :0

Android is in closed Beta, 12 days from now it will be live automatically

Holesail is live on the Apple 🍎 app store 🥳

Download link:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/holesail-go/id6503728841?platform=iphone

Howdy Fellow Sailors,

This week has been very productive for our Mariners, and we have some great news to share with you.

News #1

We just pushed a new update to Holesail with UI improvements and now we are one step closer to achieving peak accessibility.

Make sure you are up to date by running npm i holesail -g and sudo npm i holesail -g on Linux.

News #2

Our prayers to the Apple Gods are almost done and we will release our app to Apple 🍎 users soon.

News #3

We are finally available on the Play Store for our Closed beta tester.

How to Become a Closed Beta Tester:

- Sign up at holesail.io/beta

- Ping me here or message that you would like to be in beta.

- Receive your magic Beta invite

I look forward to more such announcements!!

Fair winds and following seas!

Your favourite captain 🧑‍✈️

Suryaansh Singh - Founder and Captain at Holesail.io

holesail.io

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port 5000...Is that LNBits?

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I just pushed an update for holesail.io (1.5.0), now the UI is much easier to understand and contains appropriate notices where necessary.

Make sure you are up to date with npm i holesail -g, and if you haven't tried holesail yet you are missing out on all the fun.

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