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Not necessarily. The client could still show you the most recent posts, but you would just have to scroll up to get to past posts. The client itself could also keep track of where you left off in the feed, and take you back to that location the next time you open the app, with the option to skip downward to the most recent posts, like Discord does.

I do think this kind of UI makes much better sense for chat apps like Discord, Telegram, text messages, Session, and now Flotilla and ChaChi, though. It is less necessary for things like forums, email, microblogging, or long-form blogs, though.

In chat apps, you often need the context of the conversation. And you'll notice that on microblogging apps, replies to an original post usually go back to this "most recent reply is on the bottom" arrangement for exactly that reason.

Original posts in microblogging apps don't usually have this contextual relationship with the other posts in the feed prior to them. Those posts are often entirely unrelated to one another. You don't have to "get caught up with the conversation" because the conversations are not part of the feed. They are one layer below that, in the thread of replies attached to the posts in the feed. Very much like email or forum posts, except without the original post being hidden beneath a subject line.

Microblogging apps, therefore, just like email and forums, assume the user will want to get into the most recent action first, and put it at the top of their feed, requiring them to scroll downward to get to older posts, the same way a website will put the most recent blog posts and articles at the top of the page, because they are the most immediately relevant.

Maybe nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpzpmhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwghsqgxvgj8ckdzzkcpedg2t424n3lrkerflxxke7lqwzujdjg06rt28mvh6562x you are looking to use more of a chat client, rather than a microblogging client. In that case, check out Flotilla by our man nostr:nprofile1qyvhwumn8ghj76rzwghxxmmjv93kcefwwdhkx6tpdshsz8nhwden5te0dp38ytnrdaexzcmvv5h8xmmrd9skctmfde3x77qqyztuwzjyxe4x2dwpgken87tna2rdlhpd02va5cvvgrrywpddnr3jy4ywtuu here, or ChaChi Chat.

"Microblogging apps, therefore, just like email and forums, assume the user will want to get into the most recent action first"

This I disagree, email and forums usually only show the subject, not the entire post, from a reading standpoint, showing the entire post from the end to the beginning is "un-natural".

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Not necessarily. The client could still show you the most recent posts, but you would just have to scroll up to get to past posts. The client itself could also keep track of where you left off in the feed, and take you back to that location the next time you open the app, with the option to skip downward to the most recent posts, like Discord does.

I do think this kind of UI makes much better sense for chat apps like Discord, Telegram, text messages, Session, and now Flotilla and ChaChi, though. It is less necessary for things like forums, email, microblogging, or long-form blogs, though.

In chat apps, you often need the context of the conversation. And you'll notice that on microblogging apps, replies to an original post usually go back to this "most recent reply is on the bottom" arrangement for exactly that reason.

Original posts in microblogging apps don't usually have this contextual relationship with the other posts in the feed prior to them. Those posts are often entirely unrelated to one another. You don't have to "get caught up with the conversation" because the conversations are not part of the feed. They are one layer below that, in the thread of replies attached to the posts in the feed. Very much like email or forum posts, except without the original post being hidden beneath a subject line.

Microblogging apps, therefore, just like email and forums, assume the user will want to get into the most recent action first, and put it at the top of their feed, requiring them to scroll downward to get to older posts, the same way a website will put the most recent blog posts and articles at the top of the page, because they are the most immediately relevant.

Maybe nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpzpmhxue69uhkumewwd68ytnrwghsqgxvgj8ckdzzkcpedg2t424n3lrkerflxxke7lqwzujdjg06rt28mvh6562x you are looking to use more of a chat client, rather than a microblogging client. In that case, check out Flotilla by our man nostr:nprofile1qyvhwumn8ghj76rzwghxxmmjv93kcefwwdhkx6tpdshsz8nhwden5te0dp38ytnrdaexzcmvv5h8xmmrd9skctmfde3x77qqyztuwzjyxe4x2dwpgken87tna2rdlhpd02va5cvvgrrywpddnr3jy4ywtuu here, or ChaChi Chat.

This "The client itself could also keep track of where you left off in the feed, and take you back to that location the next time you open the app, with the option to skip downward to the most recent posts, like Discord does. " I could agree with.

Due to budget cuts, bagels and English muffins will only be sliced 60% of the way through.

Thinking more about this, Telegram and Discord do a better job. They offer a continue where you left off and scroll in a logical manner OR "jump to the latest". SMS apps on most phones also follow this logical strategy. My newest messages are ALWAYS on the bottom.

We normally don't have dessert or other sweets but the neighborhood dessert shop made some cheesecakes that are to ugly to sell and dropped one off to us. Yeah, still going to eat it, maybe for breakfast with coffee. IDK πŸ€” #coffeechain

No because... Most email clients only show the subject, you have to click to open it. Completely different IMHO.

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I've never used X/Twitter. Someone showed it to me today and I suddenly realized why all NOSTR apps/clients suck. It's because they are all trying to be and look like X/Twitter. For fuck sake, I'm tired of reading the bottom of posts before the top of posts. Newest posts should be on the bottom. Scrolling should happen the same way one reads, top to bottom. I wouldn't read a book, newspaper or magazine from bottom to top. Are there any NOSTR clients that defy this stupid UI/UX design? #asknostr #amethyst #primal #snort

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