I just saw that shared by Jack, of all people
It earned you a follow π and OP an unfollow lol
Disappointed in Jack for this one
Too much time on X has me too defensive too quickly, I think lol.
Although Ill admit the language of the post (anybody who disagrees with me is an enemy or aiding the enemy) is what initially triggered me as I hate that black and white level of thinking.
As for the filter debate, I dont actually have that strong of an opinion because I do think that more financial transactions on btc would price them out (although who knows, the "art" industry is full of money laundering shenanigans as is), and history has shown that filtering them out is a neverending cat and mouse game.
I have my issues with core, especially recently, but I do think OP_RETURN would be the least harmful way.
I think the most effective solution is to ruthlessly criticize and shame spammers lol
The argument is that the impact on GOOD fee estimation is negligible to the point that we really don't care vs the other concerns, and anyone can implement a better fee estimation technique, and should, because shitty fee estimation relies on a very shaky set of assumptions, of which only one is that the mempools are all the same. Good fee estimation takes into account factors like previous confirmed blocks and other things, and at the very very least rakes into account cache in addition to the mempool.
You're just regurgitating talking points and pretending that that's all there is to understand. It's clear you don't want to learn by the way you argue, but in case you actually do want to learn, watch Bitcoin Audible Take_099 from nostr:nprofile1qqstnem9g6aqv3tw6vqaneftcj06frns56lj9q470gdww228vysz8hqpzdmhxue69uhkzmr8duh82arcduhx7mn9qy2hwumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgqgdwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkcam28zl who goes much further into depth than most people, and who actually understands the tradeoffs at play here.
I love how people cry about "regurgitating talking points" only when its about something they disagree with. Meanwhile youre regurgitating talking points from Guy/Mechanic. Language is funny. And I love them and in fact listened to that episode.
The comparisons between email spam and btc spam isnt perfect, but they do a great job of explaining their side.
The issue is that there are very valid arguments on both sides. But pretending that everybody on the other side is malicious because they disagree with you because you want to LARP as a cypherpunk warrior is dangerous (not referring to you)
What the hell... I'm going to ask nostr:nprofile1qqsw4v882mfjhq9u63j08kzyhqzqxqc8tgf740p4nxnk9jdv02u37ncpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9uju6mpd4czuumfw3jsz9nhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wsq3yamnwvaz7tmsw4e8qmr9wpskwtn9wvql3tqm
Her music preferences, already know she's a rocker...
(Please help ... No new names)
Ok top 20?
If I may... ?
There are so many, that you can't choose,
Just 20 because I know how it is to be a rocker
Ever listen to Tools newish album, (like five years ago, but new for them lol) Fear Innoculum?
Didnt like it much a first, but its really grown on me
I'd argue that filters are a psyop to get us to stfu about CTV π
Come back when youre ready to make an actual point.
All these "mempools dont affect fee estimation" comments with nothing to back it up are pathetic.
If youre gonna criticize people for "getting something wrong," then point out specifics.
Lmao tell me more about how the mempool doesnt affect fee estimation. Just because there may be other factors, doesnt mean its unaffected.
Im the only one providing nuance here. Feel free to contribute
It would appear that way. You just compared a regular transaction with a tariff lol
You clearly have zero idea what youre talking about lol
All emotional arguments, not much logic
Exactly how incentives are supposed to be. Then we can talk later about how unfair it is that spam was undererred lol
Theyre not even a big issue, a little fee spike from degens every now and then. But nodes are designed for full blocks. The only thing that makes it more costly to host than financial transactions is that it bloats the utxo set. If payments cant compete economically with spam, then might as well just give up on bitcoin honestly lol
Yea my "favorite influencer" is heavy on the filters side
Sounds like youre "fighting " for the sake of fighting, without understanding why youre fighting. Thats how you end up hurting yourself
No, its just logical. If you think fees will go up as they must, that solves most of the spam issue
Maybe core is right, finding a way to stuff arbitrary data into a block will ALWAYS happen.
Might as well do it in a way that doesnt bloat utxo set.
Natural incentives are what make the system work, and I suspect its what fixes this problem also
So then youd have spam and no accurate estimate of fee. Congrats
So basically going all in on filters would practically accomplish nothing except shooting ourselves in the foot.
As long as the transactions are valid, they will find their way into blocks. There will always be a miner who wants the fee, thats the whole structure of its censorship resistance
Not quite that simple, of course.
As theyre valid transactions (I know, I know), it would incentivize sending them out of band which completely messes up fee estimation
I think the only real solution is greater adoption of bitcoin, and to price out the spam
I hope we see a pear based blossom server so I dont need to deal with domains and dns bullshit
Changes since congestion pricing started in New York
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/05/11/upshot/congestion-pricing.html
Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43971515
Yea, because they priced the poor out of driving even more than they already did lol
Why fix foundational issues when you can just monetize them