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Andrzej Sapkowski - Witcher Saga (best fantasy books ever in my opinion)

R.A. Salvatore - Drizzt Saga

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Bitcoin Mechanic

Gave up on Firefox after something like 18 years?

Nothing works.

Let's see how Brave does.

https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop

I like ZEN Browser

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Max

# A Declaration of Separation

## To The Governments & People of Earth:

We claim the right to exist, and we will defend it. We do not seek to overthrow anything. We do not seek to control anything. We/merely wish to be left alone.

All we ever wanted was to live in peace with our friends and neighbors. For a long, long time we bore insults to our liberty; we took blows, we did what we could to avoid injury and we worked through the system to get the offenses to stop. That has now changed.

We no longer see any benefit in working through the world?s systems. At some point, working within a system becomes cowardly and immoral; for us, that point has arrived.

Regardless of the parties in power, their governments have continued to restrict, restrain and punish us. We hereby reject them all. We hereby withdraw from them all. We hold the ruling states of this world and all that appertains to them to be self-serving and opposed to humanity. We now withdraw our obedience and reclaim the right to strike back when struck. We will not initiate force, but we do reserve the right to answer it. We did not choose this ? it was forced upon us.

## To The Governments of Earth:

You are building cages for all that is human. In the name of protection, you have intruded into all areas of human life, far exceeding the reach of any Caesar. You claim ultimate control of our property and our decisions, of our travels and even our identities. You claim ownership of humanity far beyond the dreams of any Emperor of any previous era.

Understand clearly: We reject your authority and we reject your legitimacy. We do not believe that you have any right to do the things you do. You have massive power, but no right to impose it upon us and no legitimacy. We have forsaken you. We are no longer your citizens or your subjects. Your systems are inherently anti-human, even if all their operators are not. We are not merely angry young people. We are fathers and mothers; aunts, uncles and grandparents; we are business owners and trusted employees; we are mechanics and engineers and farmers. We are nurses and accountants and students and executives.

We are on every continent.

This is not a burst of outrage; this is a sober declaration that we no longer accept unearned suffering as our role in life.

For long decades we sat quietly, hoping that things would turn around. We took no actions; we suffered along with everyone else. But after having our limits pushed back again and again, we have given up on your systems. If our fellow inhabitants of this planet wish to accept your rule, they are free to do so.

We will not try to stop them. We, however, will no longer accept your constraints upon us.

From now on, when you hurt us, we will bite back. If you leave us alone we will leave you alone and you can continue to rule your subjects. We are happy to live quietly. But if you come after us, there will be consequences. You caused this because of your fetish for control and power. The chief men and women among you are pathologically driven to control everyone and everything that moves upon this planet. You have made yourselves the judge of every human activity. No god-king of the ancient world ever had the power that your systems do.

You have created a world where only the neutered are safe and where only outlaws are free.

## To The People of Earth:

We seek nothing from you. We do not want to rule you and we do not want to control you.

All we wish is to live on earth in peace. As always, we will be helpful neighbors and generous acquaintances. We will remain honest business partners and trustworthy employees. We will continue to be loving parents and respectful children.

We will not, however, be sacrificial animals. We reject the idea that others have a right to our lives and our property. We will not demand anything from you, and we will no longer acquiesce to any demands upon us. We have left that game. We reject all obligations to any person or organization beyond honesty, fair dealing and a respect for human life.

We will shortly explain what we believe, but we are not demanding that you agree with us. All we ask is that you do not try to stop us. Continue to play the game if you wish; we will not try to disrupt it. We have merely walked away from it.

We wish you peace.

## To Those Who Will Condemn Us:

We will ignore you.

We welcome and seek the verdict of a just God, before whom we are willing to expose our innermost thoughts. Are you similarly willing? We would stand openly before all mankind if it were not suicidal. Perhaps some day we will have to accept slaughter for our crime of independence, but not yet.

Your criticism and your malice are much deeper than mere disagreements of strategy or philosophy. You do not oppose our philosophy, you oppose our existence. Our presence in the world means that your precious ideals are false. Some of you would rather kill us than face the loss of your ideologies, just as those like you have either hated or killed every sufficiently independent human.

You present yourselves to the world as compassionate, tolerant and enlightened, but we know that your smooth words are costumes. Oh yes, we know you, servant of the state; don't forget, we were raised with you. We played with you in the schoolyard, we sat next to you in the classroom. Some of us studied at the same elite universities. We watched as you had your first tastes of power. We were the boys and girls standing next to you. Some of us were your first victims. We are not fooled by your carefully crafted public image.

## What We Believe

1: Many humans resent the responsibilities that are implied by consciousness. We accept those responsibilities and we embrace consciousness. Rather than letting things happen to us (avoiding consciousness), we accept consciousness and choose to act in our own interest. We do not seek the refuge of blaming others, neither do we take refuge in crowds. We are willing to act on our personal judgment, and we are willing to accept the consequences thereof.

2: We believe in negative rights for all: That all humans should be free to do whatever they wish, as long as they do not intrude upon others; that no man has a right to the life, liberty or property of another; that we oppose aggression, fraud and coercion.

3: We do not believe that our way of life, or any other, will make life perfect or trouble-free. We expect crime and disagreements and ugliness, and we are prepared to deal with them. We do not seek a strongman to step in and solve problems for us. We agree to see to them ourselves.

4: We believe in free and unhindered commerce. So long as exchanges are voluntary and honest, no other party has a right to intervene before, during or after.

5: We believe that all individuals should keep their agreements.

6: We believe that honestly obtained property is fully legitimate and absolute.

7: We believe that some humans are evil and that they must be faced and dealt with. We accept the fact that this is a difficult area of life.

8: We believe that humans can self-organize effectively. We expect them to cooperate. We reject impositions of hierarchy and organization.

9: We believe that all humans are to be held as equals in all matters regarding justice.

10: We believe that the more a man or woman cares about right and wrong, the more of a threat he or she is perceived to be by governments.

11: We believe that there are only two true classes of human beings: Those who wish to exercise power upon others either directly or through intermediaries and those who have no such desires.

12: Large organizations and centralization are inherently anti-human. They must rely upon rules rather than principles, treating humans within the organization as obedient tools.

## Our Plans:

(We are building our own society. We will supplement traditional tools with networking, cryptography, sound money, digital currency and anonymous messaging. Our society will not be centrally controlled. It will rely solely

on voluntary arrangements.

We welcome others to join us. We are looking for people who are independent creators of value, people who act more than talk, and people who do the right thing because it is the right thing.

We will develop our own methods of dealing with injustice, built on the principles of negative rights, restitution, integrity and equal justice. We do not forbid anyone from having one foot in each realm - ours and the old realm - although we demand that they do no damage to our realm. We are fully opposed to any use of our realm to facilitate crime in the old realm, such as the hiding of criminal proceeds.

We expect to be loudly condemned, libeled and slandered by the authorities of the old regime. We expect them to defend their power and their image of legitimacy with all means available to them. We expect that many gullible and servile people will believe these lies, at least at first. We will consider traps laid for us to be criminal offenses. Any who wish to join us are encouraged to distribute this declaration, to act in furtherance of our new society, to voluntarily excel in virtues and to communicate and cooperate with other members of the new society.

Free, unashamed men cannot be ruled.

# We are The Free and The Unashamed.

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Hans Karlsborn

Yes. But why are they Satanists? Extremely perverse and abberrant.

I think that as a good uncorrupted soul it is incomprehensible why this extreme evil exists.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to make people believe he didn't exist at all.

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Hans Karlsborn

Who are these disgusting and perverted people? Why are they behaving like this? nostr:note1eqw6hjn7hqapgqvskwc0pvenv8k4e60cj5umndhy47jgphs6ktuswe4gdu

What do you think satanists do in their free time if not something like this?

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bitcoinaz

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150,000 protesting against right-wing extremism Berlin, Germany February 3, 2024

When the political elite is with you at a demo you know you are wrong and have become a victim of a psyop.

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1. Yes, I proved that "the bases of the platforms are covered by the physical horizon". I proved that to you **mathematically** (not necessarily visually). The video does not "clearly shows" anything, because it is very blurry, as it's supposed to be in these cases. And yes, you can see water "behind" the platforms thanks, again, to Fata Morgana, a well known phenomenon.

2. I never said that the physical horizon "can be seen", I said it **is** there, which is different. What you see is a distorted image, light. Understand that light can be bent, reflected, refracted, you can do all sorts of things with light, as in this case. I even told you that for you to corroborate that the horizon **is** physically there, you would need to have a very long stick to touch it, because your eyes wouldn't be of help.

Yes, the horizon has a curvature, that doesn't mean that you are perceiving it. Most people don't perceive it until very high altitudes. Remember we're measuring stuff here, not perceiving.

3. No, you won't notice the horizon falling down your eye sight until very very high altitudes. It does fall eventually, but you never experienced it in your life.

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact, that the farthest platform cannot be seen as tall as the first one. As expected.

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact that we don't know the height of the sea level at that moment (another missing piece of information).

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact that your initial proposition that "they shouldn't be seen at all according to the model" was proven FALSE.

I'll repeat that last sentence, because you seem to have problems understanding the **point** of my argument here:

You shouldn't avoid the hard fact that your initial proposition that "they shouldn't be seen at all according to the model" was proven FALSE.

The model DOES EXPECT them to be seen partially, as they are.

In relation to your image, no, no, no, no. That angle is not accurate, that is not the real angle that you're experiencing. It is a **representation** for illustrative purposes (otherwise the degrees would appear on the screen, you see a number there?, no). As I said many times before, for you to experience a falling of the horizon below your eye level, you need much much higher altitudes, that you never experienced in your life.

You also put a note "the base of the platforms should be visible", but the base of the farthest platform is clearly NOT visible. You can see that platform appears to be below the closest one.

Again, back to the main point of my argument.

This is not about how many feet are seen or hidden, this is about you believing the lies of the video.

1. They told you that "according to the model" the platforms shouldn't be seen at all. That's lie.

2. They told you that "the horizon is behind the platforms", when in reality it is Fata Morgana, as expected in these cases. Another lie.

3. They told you that "light travels in straight lines", another lie. Light travels in a medium that may not be straight.

These are three basic lies that they use to fool people into believing that a model doesn't work, when in reality they apply it the wrong way, on purpose.

These are well known misinformation techniques used profusely in propaganda and psychological operations by government agencies. As well as the video editing style, etc. It's all very hypnotic, as you may have noticed. It is on purpose.

I suggest you watch the "Behind the Curve" documentary, where more lies from Flat Earth influencers are exposed.

The documentary is very well done, very professional, very impartial, and genuinely entertaining.

I believe that the producers really wanted flatearthers to do better, but instead they found them blatantly lying. Which made me very sad. It's always sad when you find out a liar.

And what's even more sad, they tripled down on the lies after the release of the documentary. That tells you that they will never learn, and that they must have very selfish motivations to do what they do.

Seriously, watch it, it's a very good documentary.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nJenY3zKWLs

1. A mathematical model can never represent reality, but only a simplification or an approximation. If the mathematical model predicts a physical barrier and you obviously don't see one in reality, then there is something wrong with the model. So there is no mathematical proof of you and you want to explain the situation by a mirage. This issue is described in this video better than I could (the Fata Morgana (Mirage), reflection and bending). But I know you will not look into it.

2. How can a physical barrier that should conceal an object not be visible and not conceal the object? In this example, the horizon should lie in front of the oil rigs (as in the mathematical diagram) and cover the lower part. In the globe model there should be a visible physical horizon, the reality shows that there is no physical horizon, but an optical convergence of sky and earth.

If „P“ earth has a radius of 3959 miles,

Then „Q“ every geometric horizon can be 1.22 miles x square root of observer height in feet

Not „Q“ We do not have a geometric (physical) horizon at that distance

Not „P“ the earth is not a globe of 3959 miles

3. I had used a different calculator for the calculation, but the video uses the correct one!

I know that this is not the correct angle as the graphic in the calculator is not true to scale. It should just be a diagram for the description. However, it doesn't change the fact that you should experience a curve in the horizon at some point. But no matter how high you go, it's always completely horizontal.

In my opinion, the bases of the oil platforms are clearly visible, the rear platform is optically higher than the front one and you can see more water behind it. No physical barrier to see. This is not a mirage.

However, this discussion is completely pointless and I will not invest any more energy in it. I don't want to be called a liar or anything else.

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https://dizzib.github.io/earth/curve-calc/?d0=9.41&h0=5&unit=imperial

Fata Morgana will affect lasers just as much as sun light. You should know that, light is light. Fata Morgana is just hot air acting like a lens.

You tried to convince me that according to "my" model (it's not mine) the platforms shouldn't be seen. I proved to you mathematically that they should. Only 30 feet are behind the physical horizon, optic illusions and sea level aside. So they should be visible just as they are, because the platforms are much higher.

You tried to prove Flat Earth theory to me and failed. Instead of admitting your defeat you proceed to degrade the language in an attempt to offend, pretending that you "don't care". I think that you do care, and that's OK.

My aim was not to convince you, but to explain the problems with the globe model.

I'll try to describe my thoughts again in more detail

1. The only thing you have proven mathematically is that the bases of both platforms should be covered by the physical horizon. The video clearly shows that this is not the case. You can even see water behind the platforms.

2. If the physical horizon can be seen at 2.74 miles (which is not the case because the horizon is behind the platforms), the horizon should also have a curve. It is supposed to be a sphere and not a big rolling pin. However, the horizon is always „horizontal“ no matter how high you go (fisheye lenses excluded of course).

3. To see the horizon, you always have to look down a little or a little bit more. The higher the altitude, the further down you have to look. But the horizon is always at eye level, no matter how high the altitude is.

This is not a fight to defeat someone. We are not enemies just because we debate.

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Oh, I figured why you ask "how do you come up with 2.74 miles". I thought you knew this, sorry.

The phenomenon is called Fata Morgana. The visual horizon appears to be way behind the platforms. But the physical horizon isn't there, it's a different thing, it stands at 2.74 miles from the observer. You would need an ass long stick to measure it physically, your eyes won't help measuring it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsnmX0XRNTk&list=PLEzivhxtxgbsRfA1jEZsHFDJ3JJNeQkkB&index=15&pp=iAQB

It's not a Fata Morgana. The next thing you come up with is refraction.

There are laser experiments and countless observations that we can see too far. As I said, I don't want to convince you and this argument is bullshit in my opinion. You can believe in your cgi balls in the sky. I really don't care.

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It is totally possible. I asked you for the height of the platforms, you can't come up with that data. Someone is being fooled here. Why would they hide that important piece of the puzzle?

Only 30 feet hidden. Think about that.

Sea level at that particular moment is another hidden variable here (enlarges the height of the platform).