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Bisq over 1000 live offers!

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It's been years in the making, but liquidity keeps growing.

Why is everybody still using Bisq 1 if not RetoSwap?

Indeed. Nothing worth of discussion since it is all through centralised third parties.

The masses are due for the slaughterhouse.

Motor oil

Biological relevant RF

Vaxxx

Blue light exposure/indoor lifestyle

Is just the tip of the iceberg.

Most are on their last years. Have you looked in the eyes of people. 40 year olds looking like they are in their eighties.

Are you asking what is the point of an offshore bank account?

Xmrbazaar.com

If you can offer concierge services this will be highly sought after.

Devs can earn bounties or if you are really good can get a Monero salary if you work for one of the core Monero projects.

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Making a long story short.

We (old Bitcoin OGs) figured that out of necessity we can't protect our families with transparent BTC, where everybody buys with KYC and therefore transforms the pseudonymous ledger into a perfectly traceable information base.

We moved on to build Monero. Monero rocketed to prominence in 2017/18 (top 4 coin). That's when Binance listed it. Ironically it's also when Binance rediscovered crust fractional reserves are a competitive advantage between CEX. So they started to naked sell 80 later presumeldy more than 90% of their users coins issuing them IOUs. Later basically any CEX started their own naked shorting to stay in the game.

The community started to become aware of this as early as 2021 creating a so called Monerorun that CEX massively failed with closed withdrawals for weeks months or even years.

Since then it was pretty obvious that CEX (in cahoots with states) gave massive power over the price if it is only traded on CEX.

After years of campaigning against CEX and making the public aware about this misconduct (that states enjoyed if they didn't directly demand it) it became clear that they maxed out the scheme and if they didn't want to embarrass themselves they would need to pull out.

Entering the "regulatory" delistings.

Now this was a way to reduce liquidity which resulted in a flash crash that Binance used to oartialy get rid of their naked short and states enjoyed because if you can not control price the next best thing is to control liquidity.

Ever since the landscape changed. There are only very frew remaining CEX that do fractional reserves like KuCoin that can keep withdrawals maintained while Poloniex, HTX, MEXC basically are Monero insolvent. Bitfinex and Kraken seem to be mostly honest.

RetoSwap (DEX) and EigenWallet (atomic swaps) pull volume from CEX.

So Monero rising simply means that oppressive forces have lost the means to control the price.

This will likely escalate when KuCoin is forced to delist.

Out of this experience we warned Bitcoiners yo not go down that route of more CEX, more custodians, more ETFs as in our opinion it is short term gain for long-term pain.

While exchange delistings improve privacy and P2P infrastructure meaning short term pain for long-term gain.

Guess what. Nobody listened, because we are still seen as shitcoiners by many maxis.

Converting to fiat?

If you earn in Monero you have the skills to stay in Monero.

Many deva live purely on Monero.

Totally depends if you are starting from zero exposure or if you already hold a core position next to BTC.

I am bad at giving advice at critical inflection points.

The last 1.5 years (with the exception of the last 2 months) it was a steel buy, but I very well know by now that most people will simply mute peak opportunity voices and ask later when the situation gets much more difficult for recommendations.

I am a Bitcoiner from 2010. You'll find many people here are from 2009-2013 if you are willing to listen.

Even my mum was open to me shilling it to her in 2012, which ironically makes her a Bitcoin whale compared to the many self proclaimed BTC maxis here, that came all for the wrong reasons (fiat NGU instead of freedom go up).

Prosperity follows freedom and freedom follows privacy.

We are still here to tell you all this.

Imagine not being able to differentiate between the Bitcoin OG that "shilled" Bitcoin to you 15 years ago (now turned a Monero privacy advocate) and a real shill that gets paid by stolen fiat money to keep you down and vulnerable (no privacy) in the fight to come.

I really like that (absent monitoring) that there is no permanent track record on chain, also we will produce on chain opening and closing tx that can tell a lot.

I come to the conclusion that two things are necessary for functioning LN.

1) on chain privacy so you can open and close channels without revealing things

2) lower fees/more tx so force closes can not become an economic viable attack

There are still plenty of drawbacks, but LN would already work much better on XMR than on BTC.

And as your friends we sometimes allow ourselves to call out the state compliant Bitcoin ETF IOU SBR KYC NGU boot lickers.

It's actually a service to the Bitcoin community.

Personally I do think we are all in the same boat and I couldn't care less if BTC, XMR, bcash, doggiecoin or all of them together finish the job.

Sentiment only matters if we are talking about speculative investments.

People even hold money (USD) when it's a losing proposition.

Last bear market Monero fell less than BTC. This bear episode it's stable/slightly rising. People use it and many need it.

Ignoring tail emission and a potential inflation bug.

But then USD has an inflation bug as well - it's called the FED.

More like 50 to 400k or at best 80 to 640k.

Big boys are in control of Bitcoin price now. They can't kill its price development over the decade to come but they can extract any positive exuberance meaning price development should be much slower than seen before as seen during the 5 years of fractional reserves of Monero by Binance.

160k by end of the decade. 350k by 2032. Store of value realised.

Price discovery will move to other utility coins.

I support this and I would love to see the maxi community rally behind this.

Also this should be significantly harder for BTC, because of institutionalised custodians and ETFs. Is this why XMR and BCH are the biggest "gainers" in 2025?

Excercise your property rights!

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1pmyu8w/bchxmr_bank_run_v200_15th_december_2025/

Monero is both more decentralised (thanks to P2P mining, ASIC resistance) and almost no nodes in Google or Amazon data centers (like with BTC).

One is transparent the other is private.

Monero is about to take over this market and maxis will be bystanders.

Blockstream are the scammers that captured BTC development in 2014 in the name of banking giants.

They will sell us their "revolutionary" shit to the end of days if not more Bitcoiners wake up.

https://blog.blockstream.com/enabling-lightning-payments-with-liquid-swaps-in-the-blockstream-app/

Pretty retarded. I mean we all started somewhere. But if we are not careful St the beginning our past can hunt us down.

They don't understand that this is Monero biggest (store of) value proposition.

Some of you still haven't understood that if most people store IOUs on CEX the marketmakers and naked short can print any profitable number.

It doesn't even matter that 15 M coins are in self-custody when paper markets define the price with only 1M real coins.

Bitcoin value on CEX is arbitrary and easy to manipulate. You want 80%+ of the volume traded on DEX.

I read all your posts. I know when people come from an angle that is so unique that it is pure alpha. Thanks for that.

So I guess you will draw your own conclusions.

1. What we know is that some scholars recommended direct state attacks on Monero.

2. Almost all CEX run or ran fractional reserves

3. Once exposed and maxed out, the system reacted with new regulation forcing CEX into delistings reducing liquidity.

4. Ever since most liquidity has been pulled Monero is rising (which is counter intuitive, but makes sense if we assume the fractional reserve pressure fades)

People feared to introduce unintended consequences with Taproot and SegWit.

They have been right. But what if those unintended consequences have been intended consequences by Core devs via their backers. The compromise has been going on for far longer than many here might admit.

Most have not even been here in 2014 when Mastercard and a couple of conglomerate Bilderbergers founded Blockstream.

The retiree economy will be a much bigger challenge to Bitcoin than to Monero. Especially in a world where retirees will be the last to adopt Bitcoin as money. They prefer what they used their whole life. Fiat.

Which means they will convert their investments back to fiat to pay for their stuff.

Meanwhile Monero is not an investment. It is used for payments. What made it unattractive in the past as an investment ironically may lead to it becoming the best investments of the coming decades.

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Which desktop or web client for nostr can you recommend that runs purely over .onion ?

No. They only killed the character not the player.

They love magick. The world is their stage and 99% of the people believe everything they want to believe.

So similar to a standard CPU in a mini PC many people already have at home when mining Monero!

Check out Gupax or Gupaxx. Everybody can become a miner within 5 minutes.

My take on how the 4-year Bitcoin cycle changes in a post-ETF era.

TLDR: The 3 years up, 4th year crash, halving-based cycle is breaking. We are in a post-ETF regime where price discovery is dominated by CME + ETFs, not offshore perps. Cycles persist, but they're longer, flatter on the way up, sharper but shallower on the way down, and more synchronized with macro liquidity and options positioning than with the halving.

What changes in the post-ETF era:

1) Where the price is set

- Pre-ETF: offshore perps + retail leverage -> parabolic blow-off tops, then -80% busts.

- Post-ETF: CME futures + ETF creations/redemptions + dealer gamma do the heavy lifting. That caps "face-melting" tops and engineers weekend flushes (ETFs closed, dealers hedge via futures).

* Authorized participants hedge creations/redemptions with CME futures intraday; dealers use options.

* The Net effect: tops get "pinned" near large open-interest strikes, flushes happen on weekends when ETFs are closed and futures/perps can run stops.

So "tops get pinned" because rallies often stall beneath the biggest call walls because systematic hedging injects sell pressure right at the breakout level.

ETF plumbing shuts down on weekends, so the Monday effect is that when the stock market reopens, ETF flows and AP (Authorized participants) arbitrage come back online, often snapping price back toward fair value after the weekend move.

* As ETF AUM grows, dealer gamma around key strikes/quarters caps blow-off tops (they sell into rips, buy dips).

When Bitcoin sprints into a strike with large positive dealer gamma, the street's systematic selling into strength adds supply right where momentum needs air, pinning price under/around that level. Same in reverse on dips.

* Basis trades (long ETF/spot, short futures) arbitrage dislocations -> fewer parabolas, more mean reversion.

When futures trade richer than spot/ETF, funds buy spot (or create/buy ETF shares) and short the corresponding futures to lock in the basis; at expiry the two converge and they harvest the spread.

ETFs amplify it: Authorized participants can create/redeem ETF shares against spot, so the long ETF/short futures leg is scalable and precise, making dislocation-arbitrage the standard and not an occasional trade.

Net effect: Systematic two-sided hedging compresses basis and injects mean-reverting liquidity, so you get fewer parabolic blow-offs and tighter ranges around fair value.

2) Who holds and how (Post-ETF era)

- More advisors/RIAs/401k money -> systematic DCA, less forced selling, but more correlation to real yields/tech.

Flows are calendar-driven and benchmark-aware, not reflexive ape/fear.

That raises the decision interval (weekly/monthly) and dampens realized volatility (the actual price fluctuations over a specific period).

- Real yields, DXY going down is bullish and the inverse is also true.

- On-exchange leverage migrates to options overlays and basis trades. Liquidations still happen, but they look like controlled air pockets rather than full implosions.

3) Policy containment

- The likely arc (OP_RETURN illegal content scandal -> regulatory clarity -> licensed infrastructure) encourages ETF/custody flows and raises friction on self-custody. That dampens upside reflexivity (fewer "buy + withdraw" feedback loops).

* "Upside reflexivity" = a positive-feedback loop where price up -> behavior that tightens supply further -> price up more.

* In prior cycles, "buy -> self-custody" tightened exchange float and amplified upside reflexivity.

* ETF units don't withdraw, they immobilize coins in custodians. Reflexivity weakens -> smaller upside overshoots.

Because ETF buyers purchase shares (and the underlying coins are parked at a custodian while dealers/arbs sell rips and buy dips), the classic "buy -> withdraw -> thin book -> vertical squeeze" loop is muted - upsides overshoot less and mean-revert more.

Example:

In a self-custody bull market, $1B of demand might chew through an already-thin exchange ask, jump price +3โ€“5%, trigger momentum, and the coins immediately get withdrawn, further thinning the book.

In an ETF bull market, $1B hits ETF shares; APs short futures / buy spot gradually to create units, parking Bitcoin at the custodian (Coinbase Trust - yes very trustworthy, if it's named "Trust"). Dealersโ€™ long-gamma hedging sells into the rip. The net result: smaller upside overshoot and faster reversion toward fair value.

4) Halving โ‰  clock (in the Post-ETF era)

- Halving remains a narrative catalyst but not the scheduler.

- Macro liquidity (real rates, USD (DXY), credit spreads) and ETF flows matter more.

What the new cycle probably looks like (Managed cyclicality):

- 18-30 months of "orderly up", punctuated by policy/liquidity scares (-30% to -55%), followed by "clarity" squeezes.

- Peaks are capped by options walls/ETF plumbing, crashes are bought by systematic flows.

- Realized volatility declines, weekend wicks persist, Monday gaps normalize.

- Draw-downs: Typical big draw-down -35% to -55% (not -80%).

- Returns concentrate mostly in buying despair and fading "clarity".

- If custody share stagnates while ETFs climb, expect contained tops.

Implications of this scenario:

- Add only on despair (-25 to -40% swift drops), not during "clarity" spikes.

- Expect lower CAGR from Bitcoin than prior cycles.

- Do not blindly extrapolate 2013/2017/2021 analogs because the market micro-structure is different now.

So yes, cycles continue - but they're not the old halving-clock cycles.

Expect a longer, ETF-managed uptrend, capped blow-offs, and engineered flushes keyed to macro and dealer positioning.

Let's look at Pre-ETF vs Post-ETF leverage.

You probably remember that in previous cycles, when retail plebs overextended with leverage, we got insane price action to the upside, which was then followed by cascade liquidations to the downside.

1) Pre-ETF (offshore perps):

- 20-100x retail leverage, reflexive funding squeezes, cascading liquidations drive face-melting blow-off tops and then -70 to -85% busts.

2) Post-ETF (institutional structure):

- Leverage migrates to basis (cash-and-carry), dealer options books, marginable-ETF units, and delta-one baskets (derivatives that provide exposure to an asset with a one-to-one price movement).

- It's bigger notional, lower directional beta-less explosive upside, faster but shallower draw-downs (-30 to -55%) as hedges kick in.

* Bigger notional because the market now runs on ETF AUM + options/futures carry rather than mostly spot on retail exchanges. That's deeper balance-sheet capital (APs, dealers, basis funds) constantly trading billions in notional via creations/redemptions, hedges, and arbs.

* "Lower directional beta - less explosive upside" because a larger share of flows is hedged or volatility-sold (covered calls, collars, long-ETF/short-futures basis). Dealers frequently sit long gamma near popular strikes; they sell rips and buy dips, and APs stage creations over time.

* "Faster but shallower draw-downs (-30 to -55%) as hedges kick in":

1) Shock hits (macro/headline/weekend): thin liquidity + leverage = quick air-pocket.

2) Hedges fire: basis desks buy back short futures as basis collapses; dealers' long-gamma hedging adds bids on the way down; collars monetize; rebalancers and AP/NAV arbs step in when discounts open.

3) These counter-flows cushion the fall before it snowballs into old-cycle โˆ’70% to โˆ’85% bear markets. Result: drops start quicker but bottom earlier because mechanical buyers show up by design.

In older "buy -> withdraw" regimes, upside reflexivity was huge and downside liquidity thin; in the ETF regime, two-sided hedging and AP arbitrage replace that with mean-reverting flows - they won't stop a crash from starting, but they truncate it.

With ETFs, most capital is hedged and arbitraged, so rallies are capped and selloffs snap faster but bottom sooner - think bigger money, smaller parabolas, quicker yet shallower (-30% to -55%) draw-downs as hedges and arbs do their job.

Implication: Upside skew is sold, downside tails are managed (until policy shocks).

So, is this a controlled volatility decline? Yes it is.

- Immobilized float (custody) + option gamma walls + CME hedging = capped rallies and orderly ranges.

- Policy "clarity" funnels users to ETFs/treasury companies, raising the market share of the limited volatility range machine.

- You still get shocks (headlines, weekend stop-hunts), but the structure pulls price back into the pen.

What I foresee:

- MoE (Medium of Exchange) stagnation: Payment rails lose mind-share, stable-coins absorb transactions, Bitcoin cements as a supervised SoV (Store of Value) wrapper.

- On-chain signals degrade: Lower UTXO velocity; exchange reserves matter less; ETF flow + CME Open interest matter more.

- Culture shift: Self-custody cohort shrinks relative to paper holders; regulatory nudges make sovereign usage legally/operationally expensive.

- "Buy puke / sell clarity" is going to become systematic.

- Don't lever as the structure weaponizes leverage against late longs.

In summary:

As ETFs accumulate coins, realized volatility declines by design: slower hands, hedged creations/redemptions, and dealer gamma cap the highs and cushion the lows.

The market shifts from halving-clock reflexivity to macro + plumbing.

The old casino is dead, welcome to the Wallstreet-fuckery era of gold v2.0.

This right there. You made a great effort to lay down eloquently what many people said in advance about regulation and the appearance of Wallstreet.

Enjoy your freedom money now backing the status quo and the enrichment of Wallstreet over empoverished Mainstreeters.

Bitcoiners got attacked and subverted over more than a decade ago. It's just a facade. The fight takes place in Monero and the price action will follow freedom and privacy tech as the collapse in faith becomes obvious even to the dumbest.