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Mutiny has pwa luckily. App store doesn't matter much

We can surely agree on processed foods!

I sure did have medical reasons. I was glad when I learned to address them with food than pills.

Sounds like we're mostly in agreement though. Obviously I can't say we haven't always eaten plants and I don't think of carnivore as a hate for plants.

I think I do disagree though that one on carnivore is "missing out". There's a lot of nutrients to cover in this setting but let's just say we know our ancestors have lived through the periods of no farming and little plant to gather most of the year while surviving the harshest of climate.

Recommend checking out Dr ken Berry's videos on vegetables. They're great for my test buds! But have reasons to be limited.

Understood and I'm not in strict meet camp. Most people I know refer to that as the lion diet. I went strict and slowly reintroduced foods but still keep them limited.

While a true Paleo is sensible (I think most carnivores agree), I think the way it's often conveyed or interpreted includes a higher amount of that food that would have been consumed only a few months out of the year. People don't stumble across a few nuts or fruit in the wild now days they keep a bowl full.

Honestly I think that's the reason carnivore has gained traction. People tried Paleo as it's usually directed but had to reduce even more. Maybe that diet shouldn't be called carnivore but it's just the way I and those I know learned of it.

Hot take for Nostr: the claim that all plants are dangerous to eat doesn't make logical sense.

Yes, even edible plants may produce compounds that are toxic. Every toxin is toxic in its own particular way. The body is a complex system; sometimes a chemical may benefit the body in one way while detracting from it in another. Sometimes a compound may only be toxic in certain concentrations or health conditions. Sometimes a toxin is quickly broken down in digestion and has no ill effect.

Even without that level of nuance, the belief that all plants are unsafe to eat doesn't make logical sense when you look at the animal kingdom and human history. Obligate herbivores, like cows, live their whole lives eating nothing but plants in perfect health. This should not be possible if plants are unsafe to eat because of their toxins.

You can tell which animals are naturally carnivores, omnivores, or herbivores by studying their teeth. Humans have omnivore teeth, and despite enormous variation, almost all human cultures have omnivorous diets -- yes, including nomads that get held up as the hunters living under a theoretically perfect meat-based diet. They are called hunter-gatherers because they gather (forage) as well. The closest culture I know of to living carnivore, the Inuit, still ate vegetable matter like berries at the rare times when they could.

Clearly, meat is health-giving for most people. Some can live well (but do we know for how long?) on a diet of meat alone. Carnivore and other high-meat diets are documented to have corrected serious health issues in many individuals.

I'm just suggesting to the more aggressively carnivore: take a step back and a deep breath, because you are coming across very arrogantly. Your diet may not be ideal for every individual, and to insist that it is because plants are toxic does not reflect the broader perspective I've touched on above.

There's no call to get rude about dietary choices. Save that anger for tyrants who want to be your master.

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My hot take is that so many people just don't know that so many of their I'll symptoms can be deleted from their lives with carnivore. I spent my whole life with crazy environment allergies, kanker sores and back pain for my adult life. after carnivore? no more pain killers or daily antihistamines. my take is that docs don't even tell people about this stuff because they're convinced there's no way these "healthy" plants are bad for a lot of people. my symptoms are mine but MOST people are struggling and either gave up and deal or take pills with side affects. And they're being told it's normal to have their diseases. "it happens"

even so. those that make it into a religion aren't helping anyone. Some do plants fine. some don't but don't know the plants are the cause.

Some points though I think are relevant

- we're not cows. not even closely related.

- we have smart brains and thumbs so it makes some sense that we didn't evolve carnivore teeth more seen in carnivore animals. I don't rip my meat straight from the animal with them.

- remember we don't see farming tools from over 10000 years ago. ice age ended 14000 years ago (Where gathering was limited to a couple months of the year). evedance of homogeneous (our) species goes back hundreds of thousands of years. I don't think we're evolving fast enough for this big of change in diet.

- I'd believe it ideal that anyone suffering a disease not caused by injury at leased know about it. 30 days all it takes. they can slowly reintroduce plants one at a time to see what should be permanently gone.

- if we can agree on one thing. let it be that vegetable and seed oils are poison. Invented (not found naturally) only about 100 years ago and their growing use correlates well with heart and many other diseases.

tbh just knowing the truth about nutrition is enough to make massive changes on ones health with direct affect on one's symptoms. even with some trade-offs. Symptoms are the reason most will change their diet and stick to it. I think calling them poison camps may be what people are finding extreme.

just don't forget to redisable it when they reenable it for your convenience every year.

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Why?

you will never be kept from sleep having a nightly scroll on this. least I notice with Kindle paper white it feels the same on my eyes as reading a regular book. I assume it's the same type of screen with no backlight needed as well?

Yeah maybe nostr shouldn't be bitcoins marketing campaign.

Not too many PC game platforms out there with their own operating system. I particularly like using my gaming rig without keyboard and mouse and they have the best UI for that.