abducting a foreign leader with no losses
that was probably one of the most successful military operations in modern history
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gotta be a kick in the nuts for him
It's going to hit deep for sure. I think even Xi is looking incredulous.
Maby Xi can be quiet chill, when #trump fires his best employees who try to defend us infrastructure š
The US president does not need congressional approval to send troops to an other country or to engage in military actions. Congress must approve a full scale war.
Something doesn't add up
He might as well couldāve invited him over to White House like those publicized meetings and arrested him there. Wouldāve saved tax payers 100 million dollars or something.
if it was so easy why didn't u do it
People will never appreciate just how impressive that was. And donāt come @ me with your political opinions about this fact.
exactly
As ima retired army and more ā¦ youāre damn right ima not impressed at all.
Itās all bullshit. And it will come out ā¦ eventually.
And donāt come at me with your bullshit if you donāt want truth.
Cool creds. I wonāt post mine.
And not intelligent doing what I suggested not toāleaving opinions out of it.
Thanks for proving my point š
As a retired special forces soldierā¦I call BS and you fell for it š«µ
whats your read
You wonāt believe meā¦as your mind already formed an opinion. I personally executed on my countries name such āspecial operationsāā¦Anyway here is coffee, butter, honey & a fire. Life is great
try me
I already did. You failed w/o realizing. As a friend im telling you my honest observation. You might be stuck in an āamerican mindsetā.
We want to hear. Canāt say you know something and then not share itā¦ cmon
Who am i to judge? Im just a retarded & retired psycho. Truth is I know nothing about you and your reality.
Ooooookaaaaaay
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that was a pussy response
Maybe you just donāt deserve it.
non sequiter. also i wasnāt trying to insult you, i just classified your response as a pussy response because you evaded the contest once odell engaged
Translation;
"and don't come at me for praising a zionist pedophile"
Shit maybe you should stop praising zionist pedophiles?
if that's what you got from this post, consider re-thinking your world view
agreed
Honestly impressive manuvers, but I still don't know how I feel about it, I think the US only wants the oil.
yup. and?
Oh you sweet innocent young man.
whats your read
Iād say whit likes you
i do like nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx a lot. Heās a good egg š„
Me too
All the world leaders are on lock down right now. Including Trump. Once you introduce a new rule to the game, everyoneās going to play it.
Yes, leaving aside if it was right or wrong, it was undoubtedly successful and more effective than spending decades and trillions of dollars in the Middle East. At least so far.
Please dont tell me americans now celebrating their child fucker? Please dontā¦
this post was not about trump?
About the āsuccesfulāā¦āmiLiTarY oPeRaTiOn š¤”ā?
It is out of the box action. Typical rules are hands off the leaders, but that always assumed assasination, which is why it was not allowed. But when they create a legal issue and just send in the cops, they skipped the war part all together. Wild stuff. Sets a new precedent.
The major issue I see in taking Venezuala is it may embolden China to want to take Tawain.
they want to but under this administration they know we will react
This may set the stage nicelyĀ for a little map making: china gets tawain, usa gets greenland and russia gets most of Ukraine. Everybody good?
maybe, maybe not. china & russia would have a much more difficult time considering taiwan & ukraineās technical prowess including global support. usa made it look easy but we also spend an exorbitant amount.
I'm saying make a deal to make everyone de escalate and avoid war. Everyone gets what they want.
good idea though someone will definitely disagree. eu would panic & japan is no friend. hyperbitcoinization canāt come soon enough
Everyone gets what they want? You might wanna check in with Taiwan before you sell them to China.
Let's see, start WW3 over some tiny island because we over invested in chip manufacturing... or make a deal. Tuff choice.
You said everyone's happy. Everyone includes the Taiwanese people or do they not count?
Try convincing the Taiwanese people they shld be happy to be sold out and stabbed in the back for the sake of everyone else.
I don't have to convince them and I don't wish to be held hostage over a tiny island that soon won't matter.
Who's holding who hostage though?
America made a mistake (your words). And so the solution is to punish an ally and push responsibility off to the ones who, up to this point, has significantly and directly contributed to America's technological success, by selling them out to America's enemy for a perceived political peace...
So America gets to make a mistake and overinvest. And now America faces a perceived threat of ww3. So America decides to make a deal to stab Taiwan in the back and sell them off to China, the perceived enemy in the first place.
Now "everyone" is happy? Who's getting punished for who's mistake here?
Make that logic make sense.
They just opened a global pipeline between Anchorage Digital and Antalpha through OSL Group. I doubt anyone makes a move to jeopardize this, if not embolden it. Anything that surfaces has been bought and paid for.
U.S. may have taken control of China's oil supply, but they're also securing the pipeline to kickback value. Meanwhile, private equity can exit through Swiss vaults into sanctioned markets. The great American escape, everyone gets paid.
interesting, my thoughts are the opposite
this move gives the us gov significantly more leverage over china
China probably feel fine about the fact that the US are resorting to projecting power in South America.
Is that what it means? Itās not projecting power only in South Americaā¦ itās projecting power including in South America.
Could be leverage to bring to table to avoid more war š
or miscalculate chinas urgency forcing a land grab before they feel it is too late
i dont think so but i guess we will find out
How so?
The US is going to hand over Taiwan
Skipping war according to zionist scum is when you bomb allge infrastructure in the capital city and kidnap a leader than continue bombing civilians afterwards.
Americans are so cute.... It is all staged, probably went to the airport with the luggage....
doubt it
This guy knows they coming for him, he is in a fortress, with gards, guns any kind of amunition, and you think they getting in without anybody dying.... you guys watching too many movies....
Definitely stage. Trump is a reality TV star. Thatās it. You fell for it.
The death has not yet begun.
if the plan is to occupy as trump has seemed to imply then yes
Look at the string of covert action in central and Latin America in the 80s. The Maduro loyalists are going to fight, And Cuba is next on the chopping block. The pilot is asking to fasten your seatbelts as we are encountering some turbulence.
There was also the time Delta rescued a guy from prison in Panama in the 80s. Very impressive operation.
Is this analogous in geopolitics to confiscating the Russian Treasuries?
We showed we can just take your money.
Now we show weāll just take you?
Oh Odell.
The American gov't has been killing innocent Venezuelan fishermen for months, leading to this.
Julian Assange filed a criminal complaint over the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Venezuelan opposition leader MarĆa Corina Machado, poised to take over the new gov't. She has actively and publicly supported Trumpās attacks to remove Maduro and assume power. She has also backed attacks on Palestinians.
Itās been going on for a while.
US has a long history of intervention through opposition leaders, military force, coups, covert CIA operations, economic pressure, and diplomatic coercion across the Global South, all to protect its economic interests.
This was a template move.
There are many narratives depending on which convinces you to justify this act, just pick one. Drugs. Peace. Liberation. Socialism. China etc etc. It worked during the Cold War. In todayās information era, the world sees right through it and people are pissed.
If the American govāt put the same effort into developing real competence at home, things would look very different. You donāt need to steal another country's oil and minerals.
Iām afraid America still doesnāt get how strong the world is without it. European govāt are just as weak, thatās what happens when you take away their financial sovereignty. Today, if the Eastern world or the Global South strikes back, leadership could flip but they are choosing peace, calm, and respect for international law.
What troubles me is the disconnect between advocating for Bitcoin and individual sovereignty while ignoring how state power systematically undermines the sovereignty of other nations.
Wanna liberate people? Empower them to build and defend their own systems, not coerce them from the outside.
I agree with this very much. However there is a scary truth to this situation: state power is how nations work, and Bitcoin/international sovereignty must find an effective way to empower the people (as is intended by the structure of a healthy nation state) in order to defend against this bullying effect. What must the collective do to move the US towards more peaceful diplomacy?
So long as America remains divided, it will not build. And as long as it does not build, the population will suffer. You cannot have a peaceful foreign policy when the population is economically fragile.
America hasn't recovered from the aftermath of globalization some 40 years ago. Ironically, globalization was a right-wing decision that concentrated growth in cities that today is championed by the left wing. You see the same in Europe.
Unless Americans come together and demand a serious focus on rebuilding economic resilience at home, nothing changes. You can blame foreigners and migrants only for so long. You can live on slogans like āMake America Great Againā only for so long. You can steal from other countries only so much before decline becomes structural.
If the goal is to make America great, at some point you have to build. And to build, you have to come together.
I donāt think his statement was implying anything other than it was swift and free of US casualties.
> US has a long history of intervention through opposition leaders, military force, coups, covert CIA operations, economic pressure, and diplomatic coercion across the Global South, all to protect its economic interests
yes, and this was probably one of the most successful ones
> There are many narratives depending on which convinces you to justify this act
i did not justify it
A lot of keyboard warriors came out yesterday because you stated a fact about delta teams op thinking you were for it lol
> yes, and this was probably one of the most successful ones
Lots of them were successful at removing the existing leaders quickly. The problem is always what happens after that.
Not saying I disagree with removing the guy, but we cannot judge the effectiveness of this operation until we see what comes next, which wonāt be clear for months or years. I just hope for Venezuelaās sake the Trump admin has a good plan in place for the next steps.
> we cannot judge the effectiveness of this operation until we see what comes next
of course we can
> I just hope for Venezuelaās sake the Trump admin has a good plan in place for the next steps.
doubt it
Absolutely, fam! This one definitely hit different in terms of success. š But youāre spot onāit's all about the aftermath. Canāt really call it a win until we see what unfolds next. Fingers crossed the Trump admin has a solid game plan for Venezuela! š¤ #HopeForVenezuela
What comes next is that a few Exxon executives will go back to being obscenely rich, while Venezuelans remain poor after losing control over 80% of their oil reserves.
There is no country from which the US forcefully seized or restructured control over oil that ended up better off in the long run.
Gaddafi nationalized oil and ensured Libyans had free healthcare, free education, and one of the highest standards of living in Africa. Heck, he bridged left and right, something US has not been able to do. But instead the US army sodomized him to death in the name of āliberation from the dictatorā, seized the oil and made Libya the poorest in the region.
Ironically, this Venezuela incident would have been a good moment for bitcoin influencers to say ābitcoin fixes this,ā because the root of the issue drills down to currency war. Not justifying theft
Your a fucking retard.
An entire Caracas apartment block came down on innocent civilians.
What do you think comes now?
How long until congressman and senators are kidnapped while on family vacations abroad?
Great precedent weāre setting.
don't think that will happen
As they would want us to think. Only such a perfect operation could be performed by Oceania (the US). The only real life way, is for all soldiers and guards to stand down - seems far fetched. Maybe all the guards hated Maduro? Could he pay his security enough to keep them happy in a hyperinflationary environment?
I think I'll mute this npub now, why am I even following this.
Depends on your time frame, add it to the list of successes in...
Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Iran
Nigeria
Yemen
Libya
Vietnam
Palestine
Somalia
etc.
Yay freedom, property rights etc.
Around 40 people were killed by the way. What a great way to steal other people's wealth!
Sometimes I question the real motives behind American bitcoiners.
Not all of us. Some of us will never praise the atrocities committed by the powers that be. Some of us have thinking brains and loving hearts.
what do you expect in a world of competing geopolitical interests? That everybody sit down and talk it out? grow up
Grown ups see evil and call it out while the rest of you clap as if watching an action movie.
No Americans is the point. One could Argue they didn't want opposition deaths either, ideally, but I mean that's pretty impressive for a battle ops view.
The scum will make up any excuse to support military invasions and terrorism against Israels enemies.
Honestly, the only reason all these scum are praising Trump for invading Venezuela is because it's a distraction from the Epstein files and the fact Trump is a serial pedophile.
They always secretly supported Israel, now they're revealing themselves.
Delusional odell take.
what is the delusion here?
No losses part. But no doubt it was successful, šŗšø is exceedingly good at bombing countries with oil for their own profit.
freedom, property rights are just stories those hypocrite influencers sell to fill their pockets. when it comes standing up against the empire that has been colonising & plundering the world, suddenly property rights & freedom has no meaning. fuck those hypocritical parasites, bitcoin was created to help people to escape from the horrors of US empire and now we have so called bitcoin influencers licking the boots of the empire & justify the gangster regime. fucking sick.
> freedom, property rights are just stories those hypocrite influencers sell to fill their pockets.
incoherent
> when it comes standing up against the empire that has been colonising & plundering the world, suddenly property rights & freedom has no meaning.
what do you expect? for everyone in the entire world to just get along and play nice?
> fuck those hypocritical parasites, bitcoin was created to help people to escape from the horrors of US empire and now we have so called bitcoin influencers licking the boots of the empire & justify the gangster regime. fucking sick.
hyperbolic and inaccurate. there is no justification of the "gangster regime" in this post. bitcoin was not created to help people escape the horrors of the US empire.
We lost our Constitution.
does constitution apply to interactions with other countries?
It absolutely does, especially when matters of war are concerned.
was this a matter of war?
Ask the Secretary of āWarā.
all I know is that he said FAFO. I don't know if he said it was an act of war. I don't think it was an act of war. Also, when was the last time they actually went through the constitutional process for matters of war (I don't think it should be that way, I'm just saying). Lastly, to answer my own question and invalidate your original statement, the constitution applies to domestic affairs and not international ones
Nothing is invalidated. Even Bush went to Congress for consent in Iraq. He lied to get it, obviously. Now the president doesnāt even bother to do that, which is authoritarian by nature.
Congress has abdicated its role. That's not the president's fault.
I donāt think one negates the other.
Sure it does. If Congress doesn't care to do its job, and the people don't care to hold them to it, the republic is over.
Gringos never disappoint when it comes to stupidity and lack of historical perspective.
One cannot be surprised your 'empire' is the perfect host for zionist scum parasites.
incoherent and pointless post
And got control of the world's largest oil reserves. Win-win: the US wins twice.
Puts a dent in the theory that American dominance is dead
Trumps recent retweet about Putin being the problem shines in a new light
Fuck Trump. Fuck violence. Fuck you for remotely, indirectly supporting itā¦fucking hypocrite. How dare you call out Peter McCormack years ago and then support this shit ass administration. Fucking kids with wealth.
You sound really happy with your life.
Yes, very happy with my life. You also sound very happy with your life and very good at observations.
I bet you and nostr:npub1rtlqca8r6auyaw5n5h3l5422dm4sry5dzfee4696fqe8s6qgudks7djtfs blow on each others buttholes.
A few sats for having to deal with the comments here
in terms of the OP itself, there is absolutey no question. insane and disgusting, yes, but flawless it seems. Just a few mild gunfights, and no US deaths. Crazy
The assets included a CIA source operating within the Venezuelan government who assisted the United States with tracking Maduro's location and movements ahead of his capture
Have you lost your fucking mind?
This is not something to celebrate.
Get ready for all the TED talks, self help books and movies
death toll is up to 80 people nowā¦
bitcoiners clap like seals for war.
Interesting. No one getting hurt is always good we suppose. Just depends on what comes next.
Don't care who you are and if you like/don't like it....pretty baller top G stuff