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People love to say “orange juice is just sugar water” which usually means they’ve never cracked open a single study on human metabolism or actually made it part of their morning routine for more than a day.

Here’s the truth: fresh/cold pressed (organic preferable) OJ is not your cheap corner-store sugar bomb. It’s a liquid multivitamin your body instantly recognises and thrives on.

A nutrient cocktail loaded with vitamin C for collagen and cortisol control, potassium for heart and insulin sensitivity, B vitamins for energy metabolism, plus magnesium, calcium, and flavonoids that flare thrower inflammation.

The natural sugars? They’re not the boogeyman everyone freaks out about.

They’re the fuel your brain, liver, and hormones relax into. It boosts thyroid, CO₂ production (hello high metabolism), drops stress hormones, helps you burn glucose cleanly, and protects your liver from modern life’s assaults.

Drink it under stress, between meals, in the morning and your body will thank you. The more I drink, the leaner I get.

This isn’t “just sugar water.” This is pro-metabolic rocket fuel that hydrates your cells more than any plain water.

Enjoy this medical advice. 🍊

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negr0 4mo ago

Excelente amigo

redsun 4mo ago

they are not good for you

Justice Beaver 4mo ago

This is the argument I give to people all the time. They say we have been eating fruits and vegetables forever. Then you explain how nearly none of the modern fruits and vegetables have been around very long and are man made with selection practices. I don't think a single person I've explained this to believes me.

redsun 4mo ago

If they go into the wild, they will barely find a few fruits and almost no vegetables, so regardless of everything, they will start hunting animals or die.

Great Ghee 4mo ago

A fresh OJ with some salt and creatine after mowing the lawn goes CRAZY

Toxic Bitcoiner 4mo ago 💬 1

All fructose is toxic to the liver. There is no molecular difference to natural fructose.

You *might* be able to get away with 0.25-0.5g/kg bodyweight / day, as that is what gets broken down in the small intestine first before reaching the liver, but once it hits the liver, toxic.

Chris Liss 4mo ago

Used to agree with that but not so sure now. People had clear (and yet false) explanations for how cholesterol causes heart disease. Maybe fructose isn’t the culprit but the reaction to it when not mitigated by cofactors in fresh fruit.

Toxic Bitcoiner 4mo ago

I am open to this possibility. Fructose metabolism seems much simpler and clear cut than atherosclerosis, but maybe.

Chris Liss 4mo ago

Also open to the possibility that it truly is poison. But gut says this food, available for millennia and so attractive in both taste, color and smell to mammals, is unlikely to be poisonous except in chronic large doses or distorted, processed form.

a source familiar with the matter 4mo ago

"available for millennia and so attractive in both taste, color and smell"

Except modern fruit are the result of domestication and wild fruit would not have been available regardless of season

Having a tiny amount of berries twice a year doesn't at all establish that you can eat half a pound of much sweeter modern fruit every day

Martin 4mo ago

Except, mankind originated from aequatorial regions where fruit has been plentiful all year round.

a source familiar with the matter 4mo ago

Which fruit?

Toxic Bitcoiner 4mo ago

For the ~2M years we came into form, glacial periods lasted longer than interglacial, so fructose was pretty rare. Modern people who visit the jungle think that fruit is everywhere, it isn’t. The fruit that is there is usually from a human who more recently cultivated it there. 100k+ years ago, no fruit tree farms, certainly not in Eurasia until very very recently.

I think the berries they’d stuff their faces with maybe once a year probably did do some damage to their livers, but 1. The liver is extremely resilient and regenerative and 2. Minor liver damage would basically never be a cause of death and wouldn’t play even a marginal role in evolutionary fitness.

If you’re otherwise metabolically healthy, exercise ideally daily, and have good body composition, you’re probably fine with say *tens* of grams of fructose a day. But I don’t see any scenario where *hundreds* of grams daily doesn’t cause meaningful damage, no matter the source or additional fruit molecules.

mrclownworld 4mo ago

Relevant

Chris Liss 4mo ago

I have seen all that and also the argument that we don’t feel bad from spiking blood sugar because we evolved in an environment where that wasn’t a thing. And yet I am still skeptical that my liver is being poisoned despite zero symptoms of such. Smacks of “cholesterol, the silent killer!” Or you could spread covid and kill grandma even if you have no symptoms.

How much do you want to go with “science says” and how much with “my body feels?” The latter is a MUCH better heuristic IMO.

Finally the body adapts. If you eat eggs, you get cholesterol, if you don’t the body will make it. If you don’t eat sugar you will make more cortisol. My blood sugar was higher after a month of zero carb.

mrclownworld 4mo ago

I really feel similarly about sugar myself. I enjoy it sparingly, usually alongside a lot of fat, like a bagel with tons of cream cheese, or full fat organic ice cream. Or maybe a little simple chocolate syrup in whole milk. The sugar crash if I have, say, a donut for breakfast, is miserable for me.

So I agree that heuristic is useful

Toxic Bitcoiner 4mo ago

If you’re disciplined and in excellent shape, it’s fine, as per meme. Most people are fatty-boom-batty sugar addicts with no self control or ability to reason for themselves. So from a messaging standpoint, when they hear “some sugar is okay” they take that as they now have carte blanche to stuff their face hole with garbage, all day every day.

mrclownworld 4mo ago

🤝🤝🤝

Yes 100%. If you are not 100% happy with your weight or body composition, sugar is probably the #1 thing after seed oils and alcohol that you should avoid like hell.

Chris Liss 4mo ago

You might be right, but I despise “messaging”. Just say what’s true and if idiots misuse it, they misuse it. I don’t want doctors and nutritionists bullshitting me for “messaging” purposes. It’s the reason why you have to trust your own reactions to foods — you feel like shit if you eat a whole pack of Haribo, feel fine, refreshed even, eating a large wedge of watermelon.

Eat a whole head of raw broccoli — feel like shit. Eat a 16-ounce steak when you’re hungry, feel great.

The entire “health” industry is just a bunch of messaging for the lowest common denominator.

mrclownworld 4mo ago

Good points. Also, while there are certainly common themes for all humans, there’s plenty of variability across individuals that can confuse the matter of what one *should* and *shouldn’t* eat

Owen Gregory 4mo ago

As the other commenter pointed out, if I understand correctly, isolating fructose may not be entire story, the source matters. In the case of HFCS though, the source is corn. The just of the documentary “King Corn” is that much of what we are now biologically/physiologically can be traced to corn because it is a major component in animal feed AND our feed. 🥴

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1112115/

I doubt that any other fructose sources are subjected to the hell that corn is. HFCS is bad mojo, period. Our bodies are amazingly fault tolerant of variety, anything dominant better be healthy, I question corn.

Safe to assume we are viewed as cattle and fed accordingly—determined by producers, not nutritionists.

I’m not qualified on topic, just my brain, observations and 2 sats. 🤗

PAKES 4mo ago

Orange juice from the super market is sugar water, if you press them yourself you should be fine

Creature 4mo ago

Bruh. Do you know how much good shit you're throwing away with that pulp? Just eat the oranges.