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Just requested to join the telegram group. I’m in the same situation as you with regards to the Pi, luckily I haven’t started a lightning node on it yet

marksn 2y ago

dont go with a pi, you will pay twice. once bitcoin and ln really takes off you dont want your node run on a pi

None of us knew what we were doing in the beginning! 😅

The Umbrel Home is my plan for the next couple of years but I want to build out a much more robust node and I will be asking for advice on what hardware and software to run it on.

No, and I already have the pi up and running. It does it’s job but I’ll be looking to upgrade to something else when funds allow!

Like I say, at least I only have the bitcoin node for now so I can easily switch hardware

unknown 2y ago

I went Umbrel on a pi first and built a second node on a dell micro tower. The dell ended up being more inexpensive than the pi

I have a spare desktop that I might upgrade, but mini pcs like NUCs are so cheap that I’m wondering if it’s even worth the hassle

unknown 2y ago

I like the micro PC because it has more power than the pi. I forget what processors are in the NUC. But an old laptop is a good option too because of the battery as a backup. The entire blockchain synced for me in like 28hrs on the dell.

MRCX 2y ago

Umbrel home is kinda expensive, I've bought a similar mini pc (Beelink mini pc)under $200 for the same specs. The only advantage is umbrel home is gonna help you with the migration.

Yeah, it’s all about the migration. I know it’s technically possible to do it by cloning the drive and copying over the channel data, but it’s kind of a scary prospect at the moment given the number of channels and the risk of force closures.

I’ve asked nostr:npub1aghreq2dpz3h3799hrawev5gf5zc2kt4ch9ykhp9utt0jd3gdu2qtlmhct if they had planned to release a standalone migration assistant for custom-built nodes but I haven’t heard of anything being planned or released yet.

Derek Ross 2y ago

You just need to copy the LND directory to your new node. It's very easy. I can help if you need it.

I did this several months ago when I migrated from a Raspberry Pi 4 to my current setup, which is a $150 used Dell notebook.

Might take you up on that. I have alternate hardware specs but it's coming in at a similar price point. I prefer to not buy used equipment because you never know what kind of lifespan it has left in it. I'll hit you up and if we come up with a better budget I'll revise the Geyser.

𝖋𝖎𝖆𝖙𝖉𝖊𝖓𝖎𝖊𝖗 (¯`◕‿◕´¯) 2y ago

$500 can buy some pretty good hardware

The Original Genuine Garage Door (★★★☆☆) 𝕏 2y ago

I sent you 136k.

Legend.

Mate, Umbrel encrypt your channels data info with your seed phrase on their server. You can get yourself any pieces of Hardware, install Umbrel and restore your seed phrase and your channels are back up and running.

This sounds like you rather have people pay for your new toy. Not cool bro

That’s your opinion. My goal is to keep the node from crashing almost daily. Sure, if you or anyone would like to help me spec out the perfect hardware at a lower price point I’ll consider it. I’m currently not employed, so cash flow is tight.

It’s not hard, look at the specs of the beloved Umbrel of 500$ and get used parts for a lot cheaper. Anything with 16GB and 2T SSD is an upgrade from your PI.

I’m sorry for your situation but your finances and priorities are of your own control. Maybe you should reconsider them.

I don’t think I deserve this kind of response. I’ve been building a node community since almost the first month I started here. People can choose to support or not if they feel I have provided them value. This isn’t about getting free stuff. Show me your proof of work.

Cafe Satoshi 2y ago

I thought Canadians were known for being polite lol 😂

Yeah, I kinda went overboard here.

GFY sir 😁

You are right, my response was rude and I am sorry about it.

I believe that your post could be misleading in the way I have expressed but I shouldn’t have used that way to deliver my opinion.

Sorry mate

All good here. 🫂🤝

I did consider that I might get some criticism for going that route vs. DIY, but my first responsibility is to my channel peers and keeping them from getting force closed. I am just looking out for them and want to make sure I can transition everything with no issues. I appreciate any and all suggestions on alternative setups.

nostr:npub1aeh2zw4elewy5682lxc6xnlqzjnxksq303gwu2npfaxd49vmde6qcq4nwx has been incredibly generous as a Nostr citizen. I’ve known him since December ‘22 and met him a few times IRL. He’s dedicated an incredible amount of time building the #Nodestrich community, which has helped hundreds of neophyte Nostr users become noderunners. With the fees we are seeing right now, the importance of this work is even more evident and I for one am incredibly grateful that he helped me become a #Nodestrich

He has helped out numerous people on their own projects, giving them his time and expertise without asking for anything in return. The nostr:npub1wxl6njlcgygduct7jkgzrvyvd9fylj4pqvll6p32h59wyetm5fxqjchcan logo and nostr:npub1c0nfstrlj0jy8kvl953v84hudwnpgad0zx709z0ey7nmjp0llegslzg243 branding are his work. He’s been generous as a guest contributor for the nostr:npub19mduaf5569jx9xz555jcx3v06mvktvtpu0zgk47n4lcpjsz43zzqhj6vzk , has advised us and helped us improve our product, helped with networking and much more.

Perhaps you should pause before passing judgement on someone you don’t know. You could have actually been constructive and spec’d out some hardware for him, but instead you chose to be a dick.

Not passing any judgement, I don’t refute anything that he has done for the community. I am just pointing out that the justifications provided for it has no technical ground.

If he wants a Umbrel Server from donations since he is a contributing member it’s fine, however where I am not agreeing is the premise that it is a key node with lots a channels therefore the Umbrel Server is a must and not a luxury.

It’s just my opinion

Well your opinion is fucking rude. Here I fixed it for you.

🤣 can’t make this shit up. Meanwhile that’s what I see in my feed.

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Since when do freedom of speech and freedom of censorship mean that there are no consequences? Quite the opposite. Freedom of speech and censorship come with more responsibility.

Proof of work matters. Helping out members of your community matters.

Don’t be a dick.

But after consideration, you are right, rightfully or not, my opinion was delivered in a rude way. I should and will apologize.

Well I guess I’m the dick now after that meme I posted, didn’t see your response 😬

Either way, I think we need to recognize proof of work and support the devs, relay operators and content creators that make this place better. 🫂

No problem man, your response was called for.

Someone that rolls out punches should be able to accept taking a few. I asked for it 🫂

nostr:npub1yrshm58vrwcgxf5guuu6mztsn5z8m6era4g5dq3wlhfdy2h9qntsp0ja94 I actually have you to thank for pushing me out of my comfort zone to begin with. I had been struggling with the choice of a DIY build vs. something I knew would work out of the box, but wouldn’t be as good in the long run, and wouldn’t teach me something new. 🫂

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You smashed it bud 🤙

No problem mate!

However, my harsh response wasn’t necessary. I’m happy that you managed to migrate successfully and that it helped you learn in the process.

The learning experience ans knowledge is priceless!

A Rux 🚴🏿 2y ago

How can I join do I have to use Amboss ?

https://primal.net/e/note1vukzty8my47dp5l9cas8mx6x4apl58t5nyeclhvmn0crxwc89ars9an9xg

You don’t have to sign into Amboss unless you want the badge. There’s a Telegram chat linked in nostr:npub1hxfkcs9gvtm49702rmwn2aeuvhkd2w6f0svm4sl84g8glhzx5u9srk5p6t bio, anyone can join that.

A Rux 🚴🏿 2y ago

Ok sent a request happy to add some inbound liquidity, about your node you are set with umbrel ?

Else have a look at StartOS where you can with DIY get also a pretty powerful setup.

(running mine on Mac mini 2012 and migrated from raspiblitz to StartOS in a breeze) but I have a smaller node then yours

unit 2y ago

🤝

cryptowolf 2y ago

I noticed running a node with Start9 only takes a fraction of the resources that Umbrel does and less than MyNode too.

Just sharing my experience which saved me from having to purchase more hardware.

Lebanese Hodl 2y ago

✅ 🫂

Lou 2y ago

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mIX 2y ago

Another option on the pile (since migration can be done). Buy a refurbished Optiplex for under $200 and get great node (example: Intel i5, 16GB of ram and 500GB drive). Just throw in a 1 or 2 TB NVMe in as the data drive and you're set for a long time.

mIX 2y ago

Optiplex Micro*

TKay 2y ago

If we were a gang. You are definitely our

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RoughGuidance 2y ago

Update:

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TKay 2y ago

Out of curiosity.

What happens if you “copy” everything from the old node to the new.

But keep old node as is, I wouldn’t risk turning bot of them online at the same time. Maybe the lightning network explodes.

But how I see it, it’s almost risk free.

Turn off node, copy everything needed, recover LN on new node, if it works, perfect. If it does t you have your old node and you can try again.

Isn’t this how it works?

TKay 2y ago

I would go as far as sync blockchain again, don’t copy it.

I’m looking into a few different directions (including possibly changing from Umbrel to Start9) on a freshly synced node, then copying LND over.

But I want to learn from someone who has done exactly this, so I don’t miss any steps.

damian 2y ago

join the nostr:npub126ntw5mnermmj0znhjhgdk8lh2af72sm8qfzq48umdlnhaj9kuns3le9ll telegram group!

lots of people in there can offer you advice. backup process is super easy

with my 0 technical knowledge start9 makes me feel like a genius and the support team is great too

Will do, thank you!

bevo 2y ago

Got you mate

gudnuf 2y ago

I got a refurbished ThinkCentre that's significantly cheaper and has a surprising amount of power for the price.