Anecdotally my wife and I know a ton of young couples (25-35) who seem to be having a hard time conceiving.

I never thought I’d hear so many conversations about IVF in this age range.

Something seems off.

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I think people have become more impatient. Add an overly medicalized society and folks jump to this faster than you’d think…

There’s probably some truth to this as well, but a 26 year old girl and a 28 year old guy should be getting pregnant basically first try.

Yeah, historically it was incredibly hard to avoid pregnancy.

Can also be the genetic theraphy jab tearing stuff up (to add to the pile of shit in the system)

https://twitter.com/redvoicenews/status/1621872711411863558?t=

Before you tell me I have no kids. I know bro i know by choice for now. Need to dig myself out of the trench first lollll

I just look at my wife & she gets pregnant. had 3 kids in 5 years so had to get snipped otw I'd have 10 by now. lol

Any theories?

Poor excuses to justify the recent massacres somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTxOKsyZ0Lw

DAAAMMN you just made my day. I ran so many miles to this song. Before the military it was THIS song that turned me from boy to man.

Frogmen the culture which makes men out by military, now that’s something to think about, ain’t it? How embarrassing it is for us to live in a world where militaries are considered the man maker, rather than higher education.

My best guess is that its the guys and their low t levels

Lows and massacres.

Exploiting need to be thieving and voila.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swdbv5I6qzc

Horrible diet and the jab.

Our diets are incredibly inflammatory and full of artificial estrogen (particularly soy) which do damage to and disrupt the reproductive hormonal processes. This is also likely a major factor in the low T levels of the male population, that only compounds the environmental factors that would likely present this problem on their own. The combination likely creates enormous resistance to especially male but also likely female fertility in general.

The spike protein was discovered as one of the main toxic elements of covid, when it was originally thought to be inert, then in addition the boatloads of damaged mRNA (which is a serious carcinogen) in the jabs are both sources of damage to smooth tissue and organs. The scar tissue and damage show up frequently in the heart muscles and reproductive organs. Hence the explosion of myocarditis and the like. Due to the fast creation of scar tissue on these organs it's suspected that the damage is both cumulative and likely permanent. Even worse, because your body is trained to produce it (the spike protein), it specifically causes damage *without* an immune response. Meaning you wont get symptoms or feel sick, its just a slow decline of major functions in the body.

I highly suspect these are dominant factors.

in short: we eat toxic shit and are mass injecting everyone with genetic trash.

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Thx for carring the torch of critical thinking & publishing such infos šŸ™šŸ¼

Regarding soy: do you have any reference or statistics for the effects described above? From what I know, asian women have a statistically lower probability of getting breast cancer (among others), precisely because they regularly eat soy and soy-based products. Yet it’s well known that excessive levels of estrogen lead to a higher risk for breast cancer (and prostata cancer). IMHO, these two findings appear to contradict each other.

Japan is a massive consumer of soy. We should probably be comparing data from Japan (male and female fertility rates) with western counterparts.

I suspect someone already did this just need to find the results.

Here is a short article in german on the comparison between Japan & US: https://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/wissenschaftler-mit-soja-gegen-brustkrebs-a-77521.html

The gist of it: soy contains phyto-estrogens which are hormone-like compounds that connect to those cell receptors used by estrogen, thereby blocking estrogen. From what I understand, this reduces the probability that estrogen can cause cancer, because the way it reacts with cells has been blocked.

Any studies or articles to the contrary?

Coming back to this discussion, what exactly did you mean by ā€žartificial estrogenā€œ? Did you mean phyto-estrogen (pseudo-hormones produced by plants) or estrogen produced pharmacologically & added to the products? Because from what I read, phyto-estrogen has a lot of beneficial effects pricisely because it binds to the cellā€˜s estrogen receptors yet has different functionalities. Thx in advance for clearing it up!

Here are a couple of publication on some of the perceived effects of soyfoods and soy-isoflavones:

https://doi.org/10.1080/10408398.2021.1895054

https://doi.org/10.1111/bju.12435

https://doi.org/10.1093/humupd/dmq011

Forgot about this thread. But yes I was referring largely to phyto-estrogen, just a vague word choice. Which regardless of perceived benefits in one area, also disrupt the natural hormonal process. I hadn’t considered the prevalence (or not) of breast cancer, but I had heard a connection between Japanese high consumption of soy and the extremely low sex drive and birth rate of the Japanese population. Could have both effects.

One of the things I didn’t mention though that is also related to soy is the degree of Round Up in our food. My father did crop insurance adjusting for some time and one of the things he found is that certain crops won’t mature fast enough but need for the plant to be dead in order to harvest. So literally right before they plan to harvest, it’s apparently a common practice to soak the entire crop in some form of serious herbicide to kill everything. This gets absorbed into the soybean (and a few other crops are particularly bad in this regard). I saw a video at some point of someone breaking this down and they just tested some generic food that was heavy in soy for a dominant toxic herbicide. Above the ā€œconsidered safeā€ levels. I don’t know how bad this is in different degrees/quality of soy or where it is sourced, but there just seems to be a *lot* of reasons to stay away from it from what I’ve found.

Thx for your reply & the clarification šŸ™šŸ¼

Regarding pesticide load in crops, I completely agree with you! Crop farming has become so heavily industrialized that itā€˜s producing mostly unhealthy food, devoid of any nutritional value. Just recently, I’ve come across an information of how much topsoil is being washed away in the US alone, due to overfarming & degeneration of soil health. Baffles the mind! To live healthily, itā€˜s imperative IMHO to buy organic food or to grow it yourself.

Regarding soy & phyto-hormones, it seems to be a topic of current research. Clear statistical evidence for positive effects has yet to be produced (mainly due to the small sample size), but from what Iā€˜ve read, it appears that regular consumption of soy & soyfood — assuming the consumed products have low to zero pesticide load — has no detrimental effects on the human organism. Plus there seems to be a series of indications of positive effects, one of them being against cancer (or precursor cells). IMHO itā€˜s a very interesting topic to keep an eye on & keep up with research results!

Thx for your reply & the clarification šŸ™šŸ¼

Regarding pesticide load in crops, I completely agree with you! Crop farming has become so heavily industrialized that itā€˜s producing mostly unhealthy food, devoid of any nutritional value. Just recently, I’ve come across an information of how much topsoil is being washed away in the US alone, due to overfarming & degeneration of soil health. Baffles the mind! To live healthily, itā€˜s imperative IMHO to buy organic food or to grow it yourself.

Regarding soy & phyto-hormones, it seems to be a topic of current research. Clear statistical evidence for positive effects has yet to be produced (mainly due to the small sample size), but from what Iā€˜ve read, it appears that regular consumption of soy & soyfood — assuming the consumed products have low to zero pesticide load — has no detrimental effects on the human organism. Plus there seems to be a series of indications of positive effects, one of them being against cancer (or precursor cells). IMHO itā€˜s a very interesting topic to keep an eye on & keep up with research results!

That would be an interesting case to compare to!

Intracellular glutathione enhancement fixes this

It’s none of those things, sperm counts have been falling all across the world for decades.

Takes a healthy couple in early 20’s an average of 6 months to conceive and much longer by age 35.

It’s more likely to be something really stupid like the rising polyester content of male underwear. https://nostr.build/i/e8ef886a7d2da4ae165b7fedd21e5350054776f2f7cebf80e98930790ee6bc90.webp

I agree that it could well be something mundane like modern fabrics, but food has changed quite a lot globally since the 1970s, so I wouldn’t go ruling that out either.

I am going to dox myself . I have been practicing MD for 40 years . I have not been an antivax doctor but I have been seeing more strokes and blood clots than ever before . I have told my patients no more Covid vaccines until we know more about what we have done . We need need unbiased info . PS I am a proud Bitcoiner . For a better world.

If you want to learn more about this look up the pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole. He’s lost a lot by being honest about what he has found, and seems to have no real agenda aside from disclosing his truths as discovered through his education and career choice.

The things causing infertility are substantially complex.

Anecdotally I’ve seen multiple patients with infertility successfully get pregnant after dietary changes addressed at obesity. It got to the point that standard risk/benefit options of lifestyle changes meant including a discussion of increased fertility.

The dietary changes I discussed in addressing obesity meant changing from a toxic standard American diet to whole foods generally including meat, eggs, dairy, fish, some vegetables, low carb fruit/berries, and maybe some seeds and nuts. Sometimes it included forms of fasting.

We’d also address sleep, social factors, stress management, and toxin exposure.

So while toxic foods aren’t the only cause, eating a healthy diet in addition to some other changes made a tremendous change in fertility prior to the covid vaccine.

Also note the patients I was seeing usually had significant obesity which skews perspective.

I’m less sure about covid vaccines causing infertility, but it does make sense that it could. We have better data on it causing miscarriages, which it does particularly in the first trimester.

But the other vaccines that we give routinely have not been tested for impacting fertility so those could be adding to toxic burden. Or might be causing it directly. I know they have tested vaccines to directly cause infertility so in my mind that possibility exists. Considering that medical ethicists encourage doctors to lie in certain scenarios, such as in tackling climate change, I don’t trust what’s published anymore.

So who knows what all causes it. My solution: Eat healthy whole foods which for most people includes eating animal products. Build healthy relationships. Avoid toxins whether artificial chemical compounds or other things toxic to the mind such as television. Enjoy sex. And build a life that is meaningful whether you have children or not.

Might not work for everyone but it worked for me and my wife who are now quite busy with three children 5 and younger.

The things causing infertility are substantially complex.

Anecdotally I’ve seen multiple patients with infertility successfully get pregnant after dietary changes addressed at obesity. It got to the point that standard risk/benefit options of lifestyle changes meant including a discussion of increased fertility.

The dietary changes I discussed in addressing obesity meant changing from a toxic standard American diet to whole foods generally including meat, eggs, dairy, fish, some vegetables, low carb fruit/berries, and maybe some seeds and nuts. Sometimes it included forms of fasting.

We’d also address sleep, social factors, stress management, and toxin exposure.

So while toxic foods aren’t the only cause, eating a healthy diet in addition to some other changes made a tremendous change in fertility prior to the covid vaccine.

Also note the patients I was seeing usually had significant obesity which skews perspective.

I’m less sure about covid vaccines causing infertility, but it does make sense that it could. We have better data on it causing miscarriages, which it does particularly in the first trimester.

But the other vaccines that we give routinely have not been tested for impacting fertility so those could be adding to toxic burden. Or might be causing it directly. I know they have tested vaccines to directly cause infertility so in my mind that possibility exists. Considering that medical ethicists encourage doctors to lie in certain scenarios, such as in tackling climate change, I don’t trust what’s published anymore.

So who knows what all causes it. My solution: Eat healthy whole foods which for most people includes eating animal products. Build healthy relationships. Avoid toxins whether artificial chemical compounds or other things toxic to the mind such as television. Enjoy sex. And build a life that is meaningful whether you have children or not.

Might not work for everyone but it worked for me and my wife who are now quite busy with three children 5 and younger.

Obesity results in lower T-levels, too.

Shame disappearing. Less stigma.

Birth control. Its so disgustingly FIAT to think you can pop a pill that changes the very core of womanhood....without any long-term complications.

Imagine telling your body every day for YEARS that you don't want kids.....and then one day wanting kids.

BET IT'S EITHER STRESS OR "VACCINES"

Definitely the "Vax" ! And all of them other thousands of chemicals they smash into our bodies...

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A life full of vaccinations, American diet, nnEMF, shitty light, and totally disconnected from nature. When for thousands of years we had none of this…..makes perfect sense.

This.

I don’t know a single couple that have conceived without I’ve or at least several miscarriages, same age group … something is definitely very wrong šŸ˜‘

Seems right on track tbh

It's not far fetched, given what we are learning about the spike proteins of covid and the covid vaccine to learn it effects fertility along with the rest of the havoc it causes on the body. Some researchers studying this believe so, but obviously that's not going to be discussed in more detail anytime soon.

Shanna Swan wrote an entire book addressing this. ā€œCountdown: How Our Modern World is Threatening Sperm Countā€. Some easy hacks: Get 8 hours of sleep, take zinc, take vitamin D, eat a low carb diet.

Children of Men

See my most recent posts. That will explain everything.

Same here dude. It's sad.

Not to sound negative, but this will be a lot different world in a couple of years, a world with practicaly no children. Sad to the extreme.

5g roll out, jabs, graphene nano particles, wifi everywhere, gmo food, blue light, it all adds up. This is a covert war

Did you know 23-35 year old couples trying to concieve when you were younger? Careful as It's very easy to fall in conformation bias.

You know I did begin this with ā€œanecdotallyā€

People are jumping to 5G conclusions in the comments lol

Lol that’s not my problem

Bodies are under constant stress from all the frequencies especially in cities

Low testosterone in men and PCOS in women are the main culprits usually. Luckily they are easily reversible with a nutritious and not inflammatory diet and with easy habits to adopt.

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PCOS is more common than a lot think, and can be a very lengthy process to determine / diagnose/ fix so to speak. I’m 34 years old. Been through the whole lab rat testing, ultrasounds, blood tests, gino apts, doc apts, back and forth for over 7 years with the whole medical process and added prescriptions to try to sort it out. However I stopped continuing the process. The second pill I was given for ovulation, I had to take on-top of my hormone pill after my period came regularly. There was too high of a chance for twins, if it was going to work at all. It’s unfortunate, but I also didn’t think it was fair to myself, or the possible twins to bring them up in this world when I only want one kid. Been pondering about going to a naturopath for a different natural route, but also don’t want to keep forcing something if it doesn’t align.

I have 2 friends with PCOS who were able to coinceive in their middle 30s swtiching to a low carb diet... But it's definitely a more complex issue than diet alone. I don't know if you're familiar with her, but I find Lisa hendrickson-jack (her book and her podcasts) really illuminating in a lot of these topics

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Thx for sharing & highlighting šŸ™šŸ¼ Sometimes, something doesnā€˜t manifest, even if we try really hard to reach that goal. My experience so far has always been that in hindsight is was the right thing to happen, even though one didnā€˜t understand (and maybe even fought against) it at the moment. IMHO, natural alignment is the key and the right puzzle pieces will fall in place automatically at the right time šŸ’œ

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The jabs, frequency attacks, diet and stress

Very good topic!!

They were probably vaccinated…

35 ain’t young when it comes to conceiving

Not for women, for guys it’s still relatively young reproductively.

I’ve got the same thing going on in my friend group. 2 couples I can think of who tried for over a year. Probably closer to two years before starting ivf.

Was in this boat 5-6 years ago. Turned into more of a blessing for us than anything else

Weird. I only can think of one couple that had problems. (They got it eventually!) But all of my friends are generally really healthy and cook their own food/don't eat out or fast food. So...

The average American diet is a damn tragedy.

Women taking hormones to prevent pregnancy in their early age and then wonder why their having programs later on... High time preference

Have they tried sex?

I do hear of it more in 30+ then <30 though.

Way too many processed calories.

We eat 3 fucking meals a day with snacks in between. Our bodies have evolved to be hungry and certain mechanisms (autophogy) kick in when our bodies are starved

Starve your body for better health and better sex

Sedentary and high temperature are the biggest killers of sperm, and exercise and keeping low temperature are one of the solutions.

šŸ¤”, hmm maybe there are some ā€˜unforeseen’ side effects of a particular ā€˜medical treatment’ for the rebranded flu…

Birth control. Diet. Medications. Covid vaccines. I bet people can get over 1-2 of these with little issue, but stack them up. It’s rough out there.

Same. I know a lot of people my age and younger turning to IUI and IVF. An interesting side effect is leads to twins for many of them ā˜ŗļø

It’s called their 3rd booster

Can confirm…

Birth control. Its so disgustingly FIAT to think you can pop a pill that changes the very core of womanhood....without any long-term complications.

Imagine telling your body every day for YEARS that you don't want kids.....and then one day wanting kids. Not popular, but true.