Humanoid robots are interesting, but over the next decade, keep in mind the power requirements.

The human brain is an *immensely* powerful computer and runs on like 20 watts. It is a breathtakingly efficient thing. Plus with a bit of water and (optionally) some food, a human body can operate for days.

Getting humanoid robots to the point of being able to walk around and participate in our world with high levels of processing and long run times is going to be a hard and long-term engineering challenge. Harder than EV adoption. Robots in the real world are an order of magnitude more complex to get right than robots in a controlled industrial setting.

I’m pretty bullish on smaller non-humanoid home robots though. Things like robodogs. They can plug themselves in to recharge whenever they are low on power, and can do all sorts of tasks that a well-trained dog could do, plus some other things (language recognition, a mounted arm that can grasp things better, etc). They’ll get exponentially better in the years ahead.

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I don't want these things to walk around among us at all. In a perfect would, maybe. But not in our world. People in power will just use them to suppress the population 😟

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power and efficiency gap between biological systems and current robotics is indeed enormous

we’ll probably see robot companions that look weird but are super practical

When the tech does get there though it’s gunna be wild. Need your heat pump fixed? Mary can download the manual, order parts with funds from her lightning wallet and be done in time to fix you dinner before “robo-snuggles” on the couch. And in incognito mode she won’t even retain memory of what you two did last night.

If the human brain is a miracle of efficiency, what does it say about a world where we need robots to do our thinking and walking?

I think she’s pointing out the efficiency in how it runs, not necessarily in how it’s used 😓 cuz, emotions

https://ai-2027.com/ paints another story.

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It nourishes itself, metamorphoses in silence, emerges as a butterfly, and flies away. Then it dies, decays, and nourishes other animals and the soil. No machines, no batteries, no waste.

A miracle no robot could ever dream of.

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The direction is inevitably that. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Pure transhumanism. In no time we will have robots going around our cities. Everyone will have a robot as a butler to do family errands 🥲🤖

mouse droids for the win in the long run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLqNmMH4hsg

i think the same could be said back then between horse and car, that horses were more efficient.

… hopefully an option for robodogs/ robocats that are soft and fuzzy. Although I wonder what materials would be good for that … that’s also easy to clean and biodegradable

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Lyn being right AGAIN.

I think humanoid robots that walk around in the world will be at the tail end of robotics development, primarily because they’re largely a novelty or luxury.

All the stuff we really want robots to do can be done by non-humanoid robots.

Advanced self-driving equipment automates things like farming and mining. More intricate industrial machinery further automates manufacturing and power station maintenance. Even activities such as law enforcement can be done by non-human robots (setting aside whether or not people want that).

And on and on.

It seems that robotics will have to advance quite a bit before humanoid robots are functional and economical enough for widespread use.

Most likely, the production of humanoid robots will be enabled by the efficiency gains brought by non-humanoid robots.

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At the same time researchers are trying to create a sort of photosynthesis that could power robots eventually (in a later iteration):

https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2025/04/24/scientists-develop-artificial-leaf-that-uses-sunlight-to-produce-valuable-chemicals/

Good point. Fully autonomous humanoid robots walking alongside humans are likely 15-20 years off. But tethered ones could be feasible for factories and businesses in 5 years or less…do you think?

Robot guard dogs for the win! 😂

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The robodogs have been warned.

After having quite a few conversations about robotics and automation, I’ve noticed people often conflate robotics and AI.

When people explain that the future of robotics may not look the way you expect and the timeline may be longer than you think, the response is often to point out how fast AI is developing.

However, AI and robotics are related—but separate—fields of technology.

AI is software running on static hardware. Robotics is software running on dynamic machinery.

This is why I suspect robotics, especially incredibly intricate and advanced robotics such as humanoid robots, will develop on a longer timeline than AI.

In fact, it seems the order of operations will be to develop AI, then use AI to accelerate the research and development of robotics and automation.

Primarily because both AI and robotics require a lot of electricity, and AI appears to be winning the competition for energy.

Therefore, the robots will likely have to wait until more energy generation is constructed to power them.

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That's right, they certainly need a lot more energy than we do. But there is something else here - with this energy they can do many more things. They think faster than we do, they are more efficient. I think energy is a problem at the moment, but it won't be in the future. Once we have started to emphasise electric cars, solar panels and different methods of energy extraction, we will improve them. Competition will force scientists to develop better batteries and more efficient ways of getting energy from the sun. It is very possible that in a few years cars will be able to travel thousands of miles on a single charge, and robots will be able to charge themselves from the sun or in other ways, in addition to very high quality batteries. The possibilities is limitless.

What happens when these robots get wet? Seriously. Can they swim? I doubt it. Perhaps, they will be able to learn. They can barely walk 100% like humans. So swimming like a fish seems like a challenge. Toss one of these in water and it’s a wrap.

It took us how long to make a water proof phone. Technically, the phones are not 100% waterproof. Do we even have waterproof computers and tablets? How long will it take to make a waterproof robot?

For the record, this isn’t an attack on Lyn. I just find all this robot talk rubbish. Some humans are seriously banking on robots being potentially superior. It’ll never happen unless humans with low intelligence allow it to happen. It’s all so baffling to me. I can’t wait to see how this all turns out.

Maybe the first generation doesn’t all have to be cordless. More confined spaces like, medical office settings, might be conducive to power cords while battery tech and supply advanced.

we should pay attention during this development that humans control electricity. otherwise there Is a chance robot will cut humans from energy sources simply because they need them.

Nah, the smart companies will employ some form of solar skin for trickle charging & kinetic energy return, which will give them an essentially limitless runtime in a FAR faster timeframe than anyone realizes. They'll self-regulate their power supply by "going outside for a break" or "staring out the window".

Essential tasks like obstacle avoidance, etc. can simply be package upgraded daily while charging; they will all be collectively learning in real-time & they will all experience incremental upgrades on a daily basis.

All the hard processing will be centralized to a data center to make it more efficient. The 'bots will simply be single nodes in a hive mind where all bots can upgrade one another via real-world data discovery. They will also utilize AI to train scenarios in a 3D environment at a rate that far exceeds real-world learning scenarios. The training models will have real-time feedback/input from every node & the hive mind will train THOUSANDS of possible solutions per second, exporting the most successful outcomes back to the hive mind in a never-ending recursive loop.

Nothing stops this train. 🤙

Efficient solar skin is likely more than a decade away. And the power it gets from just part of the surface of a human shaped body is little.

Calling back to the hive mind will indeed be a main way that robots solve complex things, but wireless data is imperfect and so there will be a significant percentage of issues where robots get stuck.

The more decades you look out, the more solvable those things are, but my post was about the next decade.

Fair game. 🤙

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Until robots are running quantum computing (like our brains are likely doing) I think you’re right.

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