When I talk about digital privacy, there is always some smug genius who shrugs and tells me, "Who cares? We all know we don't have any privacy anyway." Nothing could be more wrong. Convincing you that the fight is already over to the way people in power get you to stop resisting.
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"Ultimately, saying that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying you don't care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."
Ed. Snowden
It's the same reason why our food system is so fucked up.
Lazy bred by the lazy.
it's as easy as putting seeds in the ground. the earth provides and God's design is perfect.
move away from the cities .. they are actually prisons.
I like the sentiment, but it's really not that easy. Have you tried growing food at scale? It's not just "put seeds in the ground" 😂 and good luck getting good protein that way
The family & friends scale is all that matters.
Still very hard and not "just put the seed in the ground" especially if you want enough protein
It actually all starts with seeds in the ground, do you raise your own protein?
It STARTS with seeds in the ground, agreed. But keeping such an endeavour maintenaned properly and scaling it a little is an enormous time investment, and thus an opportunity cost. I'm a software developer and a cofounder of a company - it's not the most valuable use of my time.
No one's asking you to do anything, I'm imploring the strongest men to go produce something for their households / neighborhoods....not the weakest.
You're just describing division of labor, which is what I'm doing too. I think we agree
The farmer in the neighborhood produces the food, the engineers produce the digital infrastructure and they trade. Perfect
I pay you periodically & you pay me consistently...bc I'm stronger than you are in terms of purchasing power.
You need food & it doesn't cut both ways.
But yes, the division of labor exists moreso in variety of foods & services that keep us alive & healthy - but it's diabolically dumb not to have chickens if you have half a brain & don't live in a pod 🫛
You're describing some kind of post-collapse agrarian world where the only things a person needs are vegetables and chickens. We're having two different conversations here (and we're having it on an enormously complex globally decentralized communications system that relies on mass industrialization and capital investment in things beyond seeds...)
No I'm not,
Youre taking it there,
People need food there's no substitute, and relying on others to do it for you in an industrialized & capital intensive way is a death blow to your family.
The smaller farmers providing clean organic food are more important than devs regardless of how much fiat you're making.
For one thing, who said anything about fiat?
And the situation youre describing does not scale. It works fine for small communities, but if you like your technological devices that I assume you're pretty cozy with, you're going to need more than that.
Backyard chickens doesn't scale?!
You're trapped in an illusion you bought from what's left of your fiat 🧠.
Man this is getting so weird. Do we even know what we're talking about anymore?
I had originally said that having a self-sustaining farm is more work than "just put seeds in the ground and let my god do the rest for you". Anyone who has grown food before at any scale will agree that there is time and work involved and the larger the scale (including just family), the more work.
That was one point.
Then you started telling me that only weak people don't decide to spend their valuable time and skills in this way. I tried to make the point that specialization and division of labor is a net good for society, as it allows for societal progress in a free market (take that to be at whatever level of scale you want, from "single family" to "entire region"). I think it was around this point that you started to tell me I'm delusional.
So what are we actually arguing here? That each individual should grown all their own calories (are children included here)? That each family should? That each neighborhood should? That each town should? City? Where do you draw the line and allow people to start to trade the economic goods they create (including food) and enable higher-order goods to be generated beyond mere subsistence?
Or are you trying to make a different point altogether? Maybe try without the insults so we can figure out where we disagree, if anywhere.
I guess we're done? You don't like the idea of trying to clarify our agreements and disagreements? That's fine, we can just tap out. Nice talking to you
that dude is wild, lol. so fun to keep around. do you man. not everyone needs to create a homestead. My only point was that anyone could and it doesn't take anywhere near the effort that people think. It's doable.
Yes, division of labor is a net good.
You never did mention what you're working on. any links you care to share?
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Our media calendar is starting next month: podcasts and long-form blog posts. The details of what we're working on will be much clearer as those emerge. For now I'll say: it's a peer to peer, encrypted, permissionless network of purely functional personal servers. A location/cloud-agnostic personal VM spread across as many machines as you'd like with automatic persistence of all events.
An early use case I'm excited about is trivial-to-set-up, zero maintenance personal Nostr relays that run forever and are available to you anywhere.
Something about what you're describing reminds me of Ghost in the Shell.
Basically a VM that exists everywhere and I'd assume uses a private key similar to nostr?
Definitely following the project, man.🤙
The wizardry of tech always amazes me. It really is like magic. If you can imagine it, you can build it.
It's the ultimate form of expression, IMHO. I do data conversions. Not as flashy as software development, but I always get a kick out of flipping data around like it's a rubix cube. It's nerd stuff... but it pays the bills.
Exactly! A VM that exists everywhere and you are identified by a keypair. Our far-future aspirations are very much scifi/ghost in the shell - that kind of thing is really inspiring. We'll have a blog post narratively describing our ideal future world before long :)
I know what you mean about the fun of flipping data around. Even the smallest tasks are satisfying. Like you're a techno-wizard operating a bunch of tiny perfect machines.
you can fit every man woman and child in the world and give each an acre of land. They would fit inside the land mass of Brazil. You have the rest of the world and waterways as your scale, but I only need to scale for my family.
The only thing lacking is your knowledge and commitment. The earth and God's design is perfect.
I grow over 100lbs of potatoes in a 4x16 garden bed. Enough for a family of 5.
How much can you grow with 5 acres (one acre per person) Don't be small-minded.
You plan on living off of potatoes?
lol. You must live in the city.
What did your ancestors ever do without Kroger and Monsanto. Crazy.
I live in a rural area on 4 acres and grow some food, including potatoes. But a self-sufficient farm is a very different story, time-investment-wise. I'm a software developer and my time is better spent (better for me and you) that way.
it's a paradigm shift nostr:npub19ma2w9dmk3kat0nt0k5dwuqzvmg3va9ezwup0zkakhpwv0vcwvcsg8axkl. It's not the food that's holding you back from self-sufficiency. it's the allure of luxuries in the city. It's trading real wealth for luxury.
literally everything on this planet comes from the earth. Food and shelter are among the easiest and most basic. The earth provides. God put Adam and Eve in the Garden. It's where we belong.
Protein is not as big an issue as you think it might be. Chicken, eggs, and fish are the easiest to start out with. But get yourself a rifle and steaks are back on the menu.
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Exactly, and that steak is eating grass, which comes from seeds.
I don't live in a city, I live on four acres and have had vegetable gardens of varying sizes, including fairly large. If I put in the time to grow ALL my own food I would have no time to build the technology I'm building.
Then it's about priorities, not ability. You don't want to do it, not that you can't. There was a family of 4 living in LA for a number of years. They produced nearly 100% of their daily intake and income from their 1/4 property with a house on it...
It is very possible.
I also helped a buddy start a farm to market operation on 3 acres. More than enough for his family, and enough to sell for profit.
We did a number of 100' rows and chicken tractors. He had meat birds and eggs. No shortage of calories, nutrients or protein.
He never stopped working his full time job. Maybe what you need is a hand in getting started.
Where did that rifle come from?
fifteen minute cities
well, families are exhausted with everybody having to work to maintain owning anything ..
// therefore no time to make homemade bread ≈ home cooked meals, scratch
so.. not really the, same difference
This is a highly retarded take.
If you started making fire bread & your neighbors, friends liked it you'd have the beginning of an entrepreneurial journey.
There are gaps everywhere waiting to be filled - not everyone has to do everything.
Also, I'm not asking for the weak who were raised by the weak to go do something about their food.
I'm calling on the strongest MEN in the world.
the fights we should be fightning are the ones most are convinced are over, while people spend all excess energy fightning the fights they want faught which have no consequence to disrupting existing power distribution.
Hope is necessary for us to win our freedoms back. Amen.
Oh wow, cool to see such great minds on nostr!
Nice thread if you are looking for people to follow
This is so annoying because everytime I talk about privacy, this is the answer I get. I got closed minded people on my ass saying no matter wich encryption algorythm i use, the government will always find a way to see the information shared.
I tried to explain that bitcoin would not be possible and satoshi would have lost all his coins and signal would be a pointless app with millions of download on both main stream app stores. I also explained how all websites would end up broken and the internet would just not work. Still i can't convince them.
I decided to just shut up in these situations, and I let those people be the slaves of the government. It sucks because this person im talking about is a close member of my family.