Hyperbitcoinization will make long-time hodlers the world’s juiciest targets. Vora is the first self-custody platform that secures people, not just keys. A wrench attack yields zero sats and instant exposure, so criminals pick easier prey. Vora turns Bitcoin from the hardest money into the hardest asset on earth to steal.
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How does that work 🧐
Wondering the same thing
Have you looked at the website and FAQs already? 🤝
www.vora.io
This looks like a similar solution to casa. That doesn’t deter wrench attacks though. Attackers may not believe you and will torture you or your family.
You can see Jesse interacting with Casa here, which will provide more insight sir.
I can’t read the thread from this link I don’t have twatter
Good man, respect. I got you:
The duress pin starting emergency protocols looks interesting. Need more info on that. My only issue is that a lot of damage can be done in a short period of time. If I had a kid that was threatened, saving the Bitcoin is not really a victory.
Yes, more info will come out about how this is mitigated but the TLDR is you want to 1) Alert authorities 2) buy time 3) have a smaller decoy amount available to negotiate 4) keep this security data private and secure, until an alarm is triggered which will then provide specific information to the authorities.
Remember, this is in the prototyping stage, so all feedback is valued and welcomed.
I am also responding as the dev, not the founder / CEO / CTO - so my understanding is my opinion, as someone closer to the company 🤝
Thanks will wait for more info
“For detecting physical attacks outside of customer action, we have multiple triggers, such as a duress PIN being used or the integrated node going offline, and other duress heuristics, with eventual integration with cameras, door sensors, drones, etc.
Any of these triggers results in our monitoring team making a phone call to the customer and checking for a verbal password. If we can't reach them, or the incorrect verbal password is given, we contact emergency services by routing encrypted location data over an API using TLS, which terminates in a server TEE such that the location data is never exposed to Vora, which can be verified by users with remote attestation prior to providing the encrypted location data to the TEE.”
Have you looked at the website and FAQs already? 🤝
www.vora.io
The product roadmap for this service includes deploying camera drones when necessary.
go on….
Good-looking site; great value prop. Congrats, guys.
Cheers nostr:nprofile1qqsv0mdxvznteqns2v8g9d98wy4vm63wx8wq54hcmj244sqfalvhepspyfmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumgv9mku7t9v9nk2u3wvdhk6tm0w46xymmcqy2hwumn8ghj7am0wshxummnw3ezuurpwf68jpyj009 ! No idea who that Rodgers is in the account beside me in the comments 😆
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Secures people? What does that mean? Like biometric data?
Check out the website and FAQs
www.vora.io
Security designed for bitcoiners to hunt down bad guys is a genius idea.
Bouta be plumptious af
I just imagine a wrench attacker getting really pissed off at this set up and attacking the victim even harder.
It’s probably a good idea to have an “appeasing wallet”, too.
The 2nd amendment can protect us from a wrench attack.
It can, and Vora can help alongside as an extra preventative deterrent.
Where is the code?
It is coming™️ - we are about to enter the prototyping phase soon.
This npub isn’t even close to the one listed on their website. How do we know if this one’s legit?
I guess web of trust? I see nostr:npub1hk0tv47ztd8kekngsuwwycje68umccjzqjr7xgjfqkm8ffcs53dqvv20pf and others are following.
Because I updated the website to have this new npub 😇
wdym? i just went to the website, there's still this npub listed
That is likely due to your cache sir, please use incognito or clear your cache and let me know if you see the new npub
First time on the site this n pub is listed
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Weird, I’ve got two incognito tabs, which show different npubs! 🤯
I’ll investigate and fix. Thanks!
Fixed! There was a discrepancy between mobile and desktop 🤝
This is how we all get shit done on NOSTR. Pleb 2 pleb communications at its finest. Good to see! Thanks for fixing and I’m stoked to see nostr:npub16lqexwgfr35g5qsxaq0gzapja0xvr8sltmwzuaea4ve3d39k8chsyvqkaj in action. Looks like a much needed and epic project. Big thanks to the team!
How about a collaboration with #wwatTHEbook?
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LFG
Great rip with walker. Just listened to you on a long drive home after a gig. It was the perfect length for the drive. I ended as I pulled into the driveway. Perfection! I’m signing up for the list!
Really bullish on vora.io a lot of thought went into the architecture of this vault.
I get a horizontal scroll bar on 1280px width:
How does it broadcast an emergency transaction if the secure element is air-gapped?
Is it a pre-signed time locked transaction? Effectively a dead-man’s switch?
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Will this come with a flashbang grenade that goes off if a duress pin is entered? I’m only partially kidding