Protocol is very cool. But content is incredibly repetitive, you're right.

And get ready, people will point you to "normal content", but this will mostly just be bitcoin people posting about non-bitcoin stuff, so bitcoin people post about food, or bitcoin people post about sports.... what you won't find much of is non-bitcoin people posting stuff.

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The reason there are so many bit liners is because bitcoiners evangelized it to other bitcoiners.

I dunno. I'm fine with this arrangement, but you can go just as easily evangelize it to the mid curves.

It's not financially sustainable, that's my biggest issue. Nostr zoomed out is bleeding too much money each month. It has to grow and earn, and to grow and earn it has to attract all sorts of people with all sorts of interests.

Where's the balance sheet that shows this.

Open sats putting in over $500k per month as of 1.5 years ago, surely that's a fair amount higher now? And then HRF, and then VCs like Ten31 and Hivemind, etc. And Jack's latest $10m for andotherstuff to last a year or two. Could be well over $1m per month right now, mostly going to developer salaries. Maybe $2+ million, who knows? Money coming back in the form of actual income (subscriptions, etc) is a negligible fraction of that.

If the developers stop getting this funding then they'll find other work and the protocol will atrophy, become much smaller with fewer projects maintained by die-hards in their spare time. Happens pretty much every time mass initial funding dries up without healthy recurring revenue streams to take the place. So it's a real gamble right now.

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All those grantees with zero long term plan whatsoever....

Like children that received their first pocket money.

On to the next uncle they can point their cute dev eyes at.

"It's for the common good, uncle!"

Low time preference, riiiiight? :padme:

Fuck welfare, riiiiight? :padme:

Than bring on non bitcoiners bro

Tried. It's like bringing non-bikers to a biker bar. Just doesn't work. No matter how good you tell them the beer is they take one look around and go 'cleary not for me', then see ya.

I think this highlights what social media has truly become for a lot of people; entertainment.

If it was about connecting with friends, the "Following" feeds would be all we need, but the "FYP" dominates.

There's no difference between turning on the TV and opening TikTok/Instagram for a lot of people. They want stimulus and entertainment.

I don't think so. It's just a question of people not being interested in bitcoin, but when then check out Nostr bitcoin is absolutely unavoidable. If you don't find bitcoin, bitcoin will find you. There's no escape.

Would you stay around if you found a new social network protocol but everything on it was people discussing Warhammer 40,000 and there was no way you could escape it Warhammer 40,000 no matter how you tried?

Yeah I get what you're saying but I think it still ties back to what people expect in a social network nowadays, which is near-immediate satisfaction upon arrival.

Agreed it's impossible to avoid btc convos regardless though, which makes switching to nostr hard and retention even harder

Yup, feels like if other communities are to take root it'll have to be in a space where they are fully insulated from the hyperbitcoin community here, as in a technical barrier. Maybe even a soft fork.

All the bitcoin talk on Nostr is a turn off. I try to keep my following feed to what I want to see, and so far it's tolerable.

I onboarded my mom, grandma, boyfriend, friends that paint, knitt, photograph, juggle, slackline. I also gave all of them some sats so they can zap so now they are bitcoiners or what πŸ˜‚

How active are they now is the question.

More active than on Bitcoin network πŸ˜‚ and made more posts about their trade than about Bitcoin - active enough to make my point :)

List thenpubs, I'll happily follow!

Check #artlist first, I didn’t onboard them but that’s non Bitcoin content I aggregate

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Especially do follow nostr:nprofile1qqs9v33jyutlpeddeyvhpf2crm2m58vjuv50feycg46xauceka0re8qpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgewaehxw309ahx7um5wghxvmmjwskkyarr9e3kcatzsrfvnc you just made me notice she is more active than I was aware 🀩

My mom nostr:nprofile1qqspupn2hte3vnwg3evdg84m7ezj68v2fcwg6g5ugrzs3ez28gateugpzdmhxue69uhhyetvv9ukzcnvv5hx7un8qyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2aqk6m6n6

Nice, i'm following your mom, that's refreshing.

I hope she’ll start posting more travel pics :D

Do your know nostr:npub1kzkzcfh2hkcwp2ds6y8az3vv5u79wkce6e0p8u88fpxta6zq8zeskqyatg by the way?

To make your point I cannot find a few more npubs quickly cause that’s how inactive they are. This reminds me to do better. And for you: do better :D if you don’t try you don’t succeed. Gotta go to work now:D

Leveraged Bitcoin as branding and marketing from the start. It's actually a bad UX (*ducks for cover*) but I am only really here for the Bitcoin stuff and other P2P stuff.

I don't mind the bitcoin stuff, but i'm here mostly for the protocol stuff. And also Cashu, but with an eye on USDT via taproot (*also ducks for cover*).

So you don't dislike the content, you dislike the people posting it?

Wow you sound fucked up lol

I like the content and the people, well mostly, but I also recognize the bitcoin centricity is hurting growth and nostr really needs to grow.

Im not sure what the solution is. But whatever it is it does not involve more bitcoin.

It involves the dumbasses who haven't bought bitcoin yet swallowing their pride and getting on nostr so they can shitpost and earn some sats

Nostr needs them more than they need nostr, that's the dynamic here. Nostr as an wider ecosystem is bleeding I imagine well over $1m per month, it needs lot of people to bring their own money, money that nostr devs can channel to their own pockets. So the attitude has to be warm and accommodating.