What's wrong with seed oil? Is it just a meme or is there some truth behind it?
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Also look up what canola’s actual name is… there is no “canola” plant
Canola stand for, “Canadian oil low acid”
It’s industrial slug
Mind blown.
Palm oil is not mentioned here on either side. Also what about hydrogenated fats? It is all so confusing that I simply avoid everything that I cannot produce with my bare hands and almost no effort. Therefore I avoid all oils, butter (even more than milk that I avoid for other reasons), mayonnaise, chocolate.
i'd be interested to hear what your diet consists of, if you'd like to share.
This will form like 95% of my diet in various proportions in no paticular order:
- beef minced and not fried on clean steel pan with no oils added. Other times boiled in water
- plain fresh fish baked in an oven
- canned salted fish with no oils, spices and nothing else in ingredients
- free range boiled chicken
- no added sugar ketchup
- sweet pepper sauce
- steamed rice
- soft fried eggs on olive oil
- onions, garlic, tomatoes, cucumbers cabbage, carrots
- boiled potatoes
- 100% peanut butter
- oatmeal
- buckwheat
- bread
- honey from friends beekeepers
- apples, papayas, mangos, melons, raisins, blueberries, fresh coconuts, bananas, pears, figs
- spanish salamis and chorizos
- cured bio beef
I am not an absolutist though. I will try some poisonous foods and drinks several times a year, too.
thanks for the reply! this is more exhaustive than i was expecting.
> spanish salamis and chorizos
do you use Spanish because of preference or quality?
> poisonous foods and drinks
hell yeah, having a little poison now and then is medicinal.
Spanish salamis and chorizos: both, quality and preference. Not all of them are smoke and e250/e252 free, but some are. I choose those. Sure, pork is pork even in Spain, not the best type of meat. But my body demands pork from time to time, and it makes my wallet happy. If I could get wild pig meat salami, I would very much prefer that, but never seen on sale anything like that. I should become a hunter myself, but regulations here are complicated, and so I haven't found the will to go through that yet.
Worth going down that rabbit hole a bit. They’re high in PUFAs, which cause inflammation and don’t let cells function properly.
They’re believed to lead to or exacerbate sunburns.
They were industrial lubricants up until the 1840s or 50s.
I rather play it safe but it’s very hard to avoid them. They’re in most processed foods.
From what I understand cold pressed & expeller pressed are better than heat extracted oils.
Unstable polyunsaturated fats
Not just a meme. If you had to make only one change in your diet, this would be it: avoiding PUFAs
It's true.
Double bonds in the fatty acid carbon chain (what defines them as poly unsaturated fatty acids, PUFAs) are unstable and easily convert to very dangerous free radicals in your cells.
Avoid at all costs.
They're in all thr cheap food because they're dirt cheap.
Thanks everyone for the heads up, now you forced me to go down that rabbit hole
Rabbit hole you say? The following book will help with that.
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A. Price
I don't know. There are a lot of claims. There is science on both sides.
If you want to play it safe, use rules from evolutionary biology: whatever we used to eat can't be that bad. Oils from things like avocado, olive, and peanut must be okay at least when eaten in those foods. So simple beliefs like "double bonds cause inflammation" cant be right. Even fish oils have double bonds. Oils with double bonds are more liquid, flex more easily. Saturated fats are stiff. Your body needs to flex. Your cells need to flex. They need some polys. But chemically extracted seed oils are not part of our historical diet. It might be like eating stale rancid foods and not being able to taste that it is rancid because they chemically removed that flavor. If we can taste rancidity as bad, then it must actually be bad, or we wouldn't have evolved that taste sensation.
Anyhow, that's my take. Work it out for yourself.
This podcast about McDonald’s fries from Malcolm Gladwell may provide additional perspective : https://spotify.link/djB1kUKd9Cb
I'm listening. Interesting.
I have some insight into other historical aspects of food health. I was raised Seventh-Day Adventist, and through the late 70s and 80s I was raised vegetarian. An SDA university called Loma-Linda University in So.Cal did "health" research on what foods are healthy and what isn't healthy. Only problem is, they were SDA, and the SDA have a prophetess named Ellen G. White who wrote many books claiming what is and isn't healthy back around 1900. So of course Loma Linda University always found out that Ellen G. White was correct. That's not science. But it was published as scientific research. Back in those days, very few other people were doing research on what foods are healthy. And so their results tainted the entire field for decades.
Here's the second part of the podcast that will close the loop on Beef tallow . Check the basement tapes from Malcolm Gladwell : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBG7LAbeUh4
I'd argue "nothing in particular". What's bad is the amount consumed, just like any fat.