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Fabian 1y ago

This is great! Looks like what I’m trying to do with https://github.com/nostur-com/nids/blob/main/02.md

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What method are you using?

Hey! Regular kind 1, thus new posts are share on other clients with links attached so others can join in the conversations.

URLs in “r” tag.

Fabian 1y ago

They will look like out of context posts in other clients or do you have a different solution for that?

If you make them a kind 1 reply to kind 443 then people will see that they are replies or comments on a website and also they won’t be mixed up with other kind 1 that are just mentioning the url with “r”.

Hazey 1y ago

Yeah need to avoid out of context posts

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Full urls or just partials? Do you add fragments and search queries in the r tag?

I suggest hash of some normalized version of the URL or you run into privacy issues. People won't use the extension if it tells relays all the pages they are visiting. Even with hashing, people will quickly learn the hash of pornhub but at least you won't leak any credentials that are encoded in the url.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Smart 👆

Maybe we need a NIP to define what to hash.

I bet chatgpt is helpful here. The idea of this chat plugin is not new. rbutr and dissenter did it before. It never caught on I guess. With nostr, the comments will leak into social clients and if done right, help both in a feedback loop.

https://www.engadget.com/2019-03-01-gab-dissenter-comments-extension.html?guccounter=1

I would suggest to auto-fill some first line in the first replies to websites. Something to give context. And a link to the extension, too. Both can be stripped out easily when using the plugin but other clients would get context.

```

X-post comment on https://nostrudel.ninja

I like NoStrudel

Get the plugin at ...

```

398ja 1y ago

Gab had a similar plug-in, "dissenter," Google banned it.

Oh damn. I will carefully write the description to be something very neutral and not sensitive. Let’s see.

The Pentographer 1y ago

Maybe stay away from nostr terminology in the description? Plebs will know what's up without it.

Use their coded language against them in this case.

I will definitely run though the description with yall first.

Sean 1y ago

hhh, i had this idea two years ago but no one invest it

https://www.theregister.com/2004/06/11/five_years_ago/

#NostReport 🫶🏻

Hello! Seiiti Arata (English profile) 1y ago

Sounds great - I'm following you now sir

and thanks nostr:npub1vxd0dfst8ljvwva2egrpc53ve8ru78v8aaxfpravchkexmfmmu3sqnrs50 for sharing

idsera 1y ago

Isso é muito interessante e algo que sempre quis ver no Nostr. Imagina estar em uma página e automaticamente poder comentar e ver comentários relacionados a essa url específica. E isso tudo aberto.

Oi! Seiiti Arata (em português) 1y ago

Creio que teve algo parecido uns 20 anos atrás e chamava Third Voice mas não foi para frente por várias razões... Principalmente por ter muito spam

idsera 1y ago

Sim, sempre existiu essas iniciativas mas agora acho que é a primeira vez que está sendo implementado usando um protocolo aberto. Sobre spam, também tenho curiosidade em saber irão lidar com isso.

idsera 1y ago

Lembrei que já existiu o Dissenter da GAB. Essa extensão foi banida das lojas. Será que vai acontecer o mesmo com essa do Nostr? https://www.engadget.com/2019-03-01-gab-dissenter-comments-extension.html

Freakoverse 1y ago

Finally! Been waiting for a Nostr version of the Dissenter extension =3

Name suggestion that doesn't end with -str:

Atom

Idea: The nucleus is Nostr, the neuros and protos would represent the relays or clients. The electrons represents the websites/pages. Nostr connecting the people across all websites and pages on the internet. Atom.

"Download and install the Atom extension in your browser.

Comment everywhere. Discuss anywhere."

Thank you for name suggestions!

7fqx 1y ago

oh never heard of Dissenter, seems like it got removed for 'violations'. hmm

notmandatory 1y ago

Please dont call it atom, there is already a rss like web spec with that name: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4287

petri 1y ago

The old features are the new features.

Gab had this, and they were not the first one to invent it.

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nostr:npub1ust7u0v3qffejwhqee45r49zgcyewrcn99vdwkednd356c9resyqtnn3mj do you think an open protocol in nostr stands a chance at not getting censored by the GUULAGL?

Maybe nostr:npub108pv4cg5ag52nq082kd5leu9ffrn2gdg6g4xdwatn73y36uzplmq9uyev6 has insight on this

petri 1y ago

A good question.

If it’s irrelevant it can avoid but might be the case of deplatforming some of the nostr apps/tools depending on what happens and whether something is targeted for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab_(social_network)#Dissenter)

How much that may affect the whole nostr remains to be seen in that case.

Relays and apps will see push back if nostr becomes more mainstream.

Vitor Pamplona 1y ago

Looking forward to have true discussions in every single page in the web.

Enki 1y ago

Damn this is pretty cool.

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iefan 🕊️ 1y ago

This is looking really interesting.

Dahzen (打禅) 1y ago

Call ot "Strapp" short for NostrApp, or "Strex," short for Nostr browser extension? Anyway, good idea!

7fqx 1y ago

I was wondering about this sort of thing too, in regards to eg YouTube videos with comments turned off, especially with news outlets

Derek Ross 1y ago

👀

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I’ll share GitHub repo and package it this week, for community to try it out and for app name & description discussion before going for Chrome store submission.

Hope to get you to try it out.

arkinox 1y ago

Call it Satcom. Short for satellite communications, its a futuristic sounding word that conveys communication through a meta layer of our atmosphere, which could be symbolic of the meta layer of communication that nostr provides around webpages. Lots of domains available.

Here's some logo inspiration:

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Wonderful project! I looking forward to using it!

I missed this last week. Got cha this time. Love it. I’m adding to candidate.

nostr:npub1alpha9l6f7kk08jxfdaxrpqqnd7vwcz6e6cvtattgexjhxr2vrcqk86dsn is there any way to transpose this app from a user installed extension, to an ez-mode plugin for website developers?

This would eliminate:

1) need for user install

2) extension store censorship (see gab dissenter ban by chrome, mozilla)

For extensions, users can unpack it with a few clicks to add into their browser even without going through their stores. But will definitely try to write a neutral description to pass the screening.

For plugin for web devs will be a very different approach, as this product idea is allow us to discuss content on New York Times, Apple.com, on any websites.

💯agree apple, yt will not add this. Smaller sites would be first. Perhaps extension complements the website dev approach.

On the description, consider adding that nostr is a FOSS protocol, and is not run by any single company.

Well, I’ll certainly avoid words like censorship resistance, freedom of speech.

Will run though the screening description with yall.

Gpt prompt: “write me a nostr summary for the mozilla extension store that is in line with mozilla’s terms of service, and will not offend anyone in silicon valley. Do not mention censorship resistance, freedom of speech, zaps, or any other concepts that might trigger the censorship class, and the extension store bureaucrats.”

Kazani 1y ago

👀

franzap 1y ago

This is cool, I wanted to do something similar with zapthreads on an extension. I really hope it works, it's very difficult to make users install extensions that don't solve acute problems

You might want to look into http://rbutr.com/

I can also help you get in touch with its founder Shane Greenup.

While I like what this could enable, I see huge privacy concerns, too.

Read this, too: https://medium.com/@Aegist/what-is-the-socratic-web-c6095c452c6

Quentin 1y ago

Amazing nostr:npub1alpha9l6f7kk08jxfdaxrpqqnd7vwcz6e6cvtattgexjhxr2vrcqk86dsn 👀👀👀

🫶🏻

Will definitely provide GitHub and zip package to try out.

bdd85e32... 1y ago

It has kind of some web.hypothes.is vibes.