Anarchy is only attractive to people who think they will rule over the ashes.
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Why people expect someone who believes in wifely submission to promote anarchy, is beyond me.
Order and governance are underrated.
That's a refreshing perspective given the preponderance of male commentary on anarchy discussion. Not that I'm speaking for the advocates of anarchy but from what I understand they might say that anarchy is not necessarily a chaos without order and governance but rather an order and governance that is not forced on a population by a state apparatus. The word anarchy is perhaps a loaded term as it is currently used and understood now. Rules and order, theoretically, would be a result of adherence to common values, an agreement by individuals to adhere to a "contract" of behaviour/rules. Maybe it's possible to say the Bitcoin protocol is anarchy as it's a system that is not imposed by state authorities but rather a system that we agree to maintain and interact with and by doing so we sustain the protocol.
........maybe. 🤔
Theory and the reality of humans though........
Ayn Rand comes to mind
I am admirer of republicanism, and Bitcoin is a key to a better version of that, I think.
But it doesn't solve for everything.
since i woke up to how much i had been manipulated by people in my life, after being straight up love bombed by one of my employers in late 2021
my conclusion was that the main thing humans need to solve the problem of crime and war is universal understanding of the nature of the mind of psychopaths, how to recognise it, and how to deal with it
most social organisations are controlled by psychopaths of one grade or another
if you are like me and are magnetically attracted to them because of past abuse, the end result is social isolation and a lot of rage
meritocracy is the way it should be
if the issue is something you are skilled at, you lead, if it's something i'm good at, i lead
any other type of system of division of authority leads to errors and unnecessary suffering
division of authority, i like that... it's a subcategory of division of labor, where the type of labor is leadership
I will.
So yes. 😎
On my own little spot, though, because I'm not a warlord.
Warlord over your little spot.
If you don't want people dictating what you do, then you want to dictate to other people what they should do?
That isn't my worldview. I don't split people into dictators and the powerless.
Neither do I. Anarchy is just a lack of rulers. If one wants anarchy to rule over the ashes then they never really wanted anarchy to begin with.
There will never be a world in which there are no rulers. Human beings, indeed the entire cosmos, is hierarchical. The issue isn't rulers, the issue is unrighteous rulers.
Put another way, if the State doesn't see itself as being under the lordship of the God of heaven, it will elevate itself to be in the place of God. The issue is not fundamentaly that there are governing bodies and authorities, it is that, in our age, those authorities are godless (and therefore tyrannical).
And people that refuse to think about ugly thoughts.
Then you have misunderstood anarchy
Bad take. You’re basically saying that humanity needs violence and theft from a centralized group for a better world.
Stockholm Syndrome. It doesn’t mean no rules, it means no rulers.
Yes, but someone or something must enforce those rules. And who decides what that someone or something is?
The person who desires anarchy thinks he will be deciding, but he is underestimating the fact that everyone will be trying as hard as he is to make the decision.
Other people have other plans, for what shall be built upon the ashes. And you probably won't like them.
The owners of property. Markets. Thou can’t steal.
Not all crime is about money.
Non sequitur but ok. It’s all about property. Property owners enforce their property rights.
Yes.
I don't think Bitcoin solves all property crime. Rape, for instance, or persecuting minorities because they get on your nerves.
It might lower the rate, through indirect means, but it won't solve for it.
Nobody said there would be no crime on an anarchic Bitcoin standard. This has gone off the rails with fallacies, so I’m out.
Show me the government law now that stops rape. Crime happens. Free markets are capable of justice and recourse. Bob lays it all out here. https://youtu.be/SQsObJlzI2U?si=YDYf117O_UFLjkAN
anarchy is acting as if you're already free. free to think, free to speak, free to break things and free to build things https://m.primal.net/IBhN.mov
No.
Let's make something clear. Anarchy comes from the greek word αναρχία which means "without authority" and has the meaning that decisions are made collectively. It's totally different from a chaotic situation that is caused by impunity.
Keep that in mind...
Americans use "anarchy" to mean that all decisions are made individually; that there is no governing body, authority or hierarchy.
It's a stateless society with no rulers.
They promise it will be orderly and safe, and usher in a better world, but I remain sceptical.
anarchy is only possible nowadays with a prerequisite: fugere urbem. then again, not only anarchy.
What's the difference of today and a century almost ago? I mean the city of Barcelona had anarchy for two years...
16% of world’s population lived in rural settings vs 56% nowadays 🤡 barcelona had a strong rebellion in the 1800s, spain as a whole, but the only canton that managed to last (like six months) was cartagena, soon supressed by the government. then came ww1, followed by anarchist strikes, a national civil war and franco. freetown christiania, in denmark, seems to be a much better example.
Maybe yes. There are other examples also btw. For example the city of Thessaloniki here in Greece with ζηλωτές during the Byzantine times. The case of machnovtsina under Nestor Machno in eastern Ukraine was also interesting.
great examples. oaxaca was another good one. in the end, I believe it is possible for those who want to be part of it. say “screw the government”, go to countryside and resist with as many people as possible. towns will soon “become” smart cities. if it’s impossible nowadays, let alone in the future. rural settings are the only way, even as a remote chance to survive and prosper outside this ring, being an anarchist (which seems to me the only natural way per se) or not.
Since i am living in a semi abandoned village i have to agree 😃.
lucky you, my fren, lucky you 🤤
I still have a couple of years till departure 🫡
I am here more than ten years and i really enjoy so far. I have no idea what the future will bring, but i think it worthed the effort
best way of living, bar none. I used to spend three to four months a year in countryside. in 2019-2021, actually, on the coast. then I had to come to hell of concrete… definitely worth the effort 🤝
The difference between democracy and anarchy is that in democracy the majority impose it's will on minorities. That is not necessary in anarchy. I can't think now any good example. I hope you get the difference.
Btw there is another word for the chaotic situation that impunity causes and this word is ασυδοσία which i cannot translate accurately in English but it means that you don't give report to anyone. Btw because of ασυδοσία, i am not a liberal, since liberal economy tends to it, meaning that economy needs rules, so free economy, that liberals propose when it comes to economics, tends to impunity. Did i confuse you?
No, not confused. Interesting info.
The closest English translation seems to be "impunity".
But the word for impunity in greek is ατιμωρησία which is an exact translation. Keep in mind that the Greek language has something more than two or three million words, don't remember exactly, and English has less than a million...
republic is supposed to be the principle of a neutral government that only concerns itself with ensuring rule of law and respect between people
Voluntary society without the rulers could work.
Decentralization tech is essentially anarchy and the protocol is law the police the judge the jury and the executioner.
It works with Bitcoin and if we can only figure out how to apply to IRL justice
It works for up to approximately 150 people then it begins to break down. I've transitioned from "Leave me alone" to anarchist, voluntarist, to being on the run and hiding, back to the original, and what I've found that is something that can be applied universally is OPT-IN solutions. But it does require leveling-up on personal responsibility. Ie, SSNs are opt-in, and yet nearly every mother signs her newborn up at birth. I did not and had to listen to everyone, including well-known Libertarians tell me "That's not possible". It was and it is. It is just hard. So if people are not willing to self-govern and own themselves and their young children, there is zero hope for a totally voluntary society.