Hi nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku.
Kindly go fuck yourself.
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Such an odd way of celebrating pride month 😂
I guess he's really into it 🤣
Such a huge collection of videos. You think he hosts it on a truenas? 😂
Nah man, it's gotta be some homegrown golang thing, cause it's the superior language and you can really pour your whole personality into it 🤭
https://pics.mleku.dev is my one and only VPS, it has like 50gb of storage or something.
why would i waste my time and money spamming a mostly decent but rude peer nostr dev with something as disgusting as gay porn when i'm barely managing to stack any sats at all, paid nearly 1k euros in may to get my cat's health sorted out in may. plus i'm an old fart, the kind of jerks who do this shit have testosterone for brains.
you have attempted to interfere with my client relationships already, and it would not even be slightly surprising that you tried again
the targets match up exactly as well, along with a lot more. nostr:npub1l5sga6xg72phsz5422ykujprejwud075ggrr3z2hwyrfgr7eylqstegx9z can comment if necessary
who said you did this from a VPS, by the way?
nostr:npub1fjqqy4a93z5zsjwsfxqhc2764kvykfdyttvldkkkdera8dr78vhsmmleku is someone angry enough at you, to do it, but it seems uncharacteristically passive-aggressive. And why try to scare off users of the protocol you're building on, and trash your own reputation?
Could also be nostr:npub12262qa4uhw7u8gdwlgmntqtv7aye8vdcmvszkqwgs0zchel6mz7s6cgrkj spamming himself, but that would be quite retarded and he's not retarded.
Could be a third actor, wanting to watch the two of them fight and create some drama, cuz there's nothing on the telly.
I don't know. 🤔 I'm reserving judgement, for now. Whoever is doing it, at least pick some higher-quality material, next time. South Park videos, or something.
At the moment, I'm mostly just gobsmacked at how lazy some of the big relay devs are, as there's now other spam popping up, with the exact same youtube video over and over and over, always from the same npub, and they just let it happen. The same exact content being posted as replies to a gazillion other notes is obvious spam.
People can and will take the risk if they think they won’t be found out.
DMs for more details
Ah, I see. Hmmm. That's a shame.
if you have events signed by me that prove it was done by someone who controls my nsec i would like to see it, and you would not have anyone questioning what you are saying.
and i'd have to make a new one because obviously i lost control of it.
No, he doesn't. But he has some data that would require lots of coincidence.
This isn't about the bots, it's about the sarcastic "use nostr.land" stuff.
There's three different things, that don't appear to be coming from the same person, but it's turning into a pile-on:
- scrambled text bot
- porn video bot
- manual, snarky messages from anon, trolling Semi.
Bots are just bots, and it really is gay pride month and half of mostr is 🏳️🌈 , so who knows. Scrambled text bot is the standard Nostr trolling, that shows up on the regular.
Making sarcastic comments about someone who just totally pissed you off, is actually something I can more easily suspect you of doing. Especially, as I know you are capable of building much more advanced bots, so why make such retarded ones, that even primal devs can fish out, if you give them a month or two? That's devvying like a 14 year-old.
i used to get asked by people when i was in prison if i could hack things for them but i have zero experience doing it and even less motivation to engage in such behaviour. when you consider that an inordinate amount of effort that i have made to make my relay resistant to spam do you really think it's reasonable that i would do this stuff to prove some pathetic teenager point about how other people should care about preventing spam?
i'm a little bit miffed that knowing me as well as you do, not like i hold anything back in the public view, don't use DMs, because i had a very rough experience trying to use them as a relay CLI, that i'm going to send anyone messages?
you can just trawl the whole relay network for my DM messages and you will probably not find more than about 100 in total, most of them dated over a year ago. and you know i don't use nostr DMs, why do you think i have simplex, telegram and element addresses in my kind 0?
just think about it in the context of what you know about me. i wouldn't even have a clue based on the fact that i muted half of the main nostr devs accounts i wouldn't know diddly squat about them at all, but i can for sure say that at least one of the primal rockstars has the kind of character that might engage in such vindictive attacks on semisol, whose service is a pillar of the nostr network. the rest of them, are too busy preening and have displayed no obvious signs of the kind of personality that considers this kind of bullshit to be any kind of valid response to anything.
I'm inclined to disbelieve it, but I'm too old and jaded to make a surprised face, anymore. If someone is impersonating you, they're doing a very convincing job of it and lining up receipts, so watch your back and stop pissing people off for no good reason, cuz it makes you an easy target.
I know who you are referring to, from Primal, and that does seem like a likely candidate, but would depend upon more factors. There are two others, I suspect, as well. Who knows.
At any rate, y'all need to stop squabbling. All it does is get nostr.land more free marketing cuz of le drama, and people are supposed to be buying theforest, not land, ffs. 😅 Anyway, whatevers, I got news to announce.
they will buy both and you will be happy
i didn't start this, someone else started it.
i don't have any issues with semisol, at most i just think that he's got a terrible way of relating to people. that's not exactly a rational motivation to engage in espionage style counterintelligence attacks on him, and neither is my complaint that nostr client devs and the nip guardians have weird ideas about privacy and identity security on nostr a plausible motivation for engaging in egregiously malicious behaviour.
i'm disappointed, is all, that you all are so easily made credulous about absurd and inconsistent claims about my character, or that semisol can't recognise a psychological warfare attack on him.
it really doesn't bother me. for the most part, kind 1 nostr is mostly dead to me, except as a way for me to chat shit and journal and occasionally help people understand something. i'm well aware of how much narcissistic psychological bullcrap goes on and for which reason i have quite a big mute list and small follow list. i couldn't stand to watch relay feeds like you do, the amount of stupid, cultish behaviour and just plain puerile humor, not to mention doomer bullshit, that fills relays databases does not amuse me, and i have no ambition to impress anyone. i measure myself against my past performance only.
also i'm not mad at semisol.
he annoys me with his autistic, impersonal way of communicating, but when he started goose reacting i was like, whatever. can't even write two words to justify his slur. he doesn't want to educate me it's just some childish internal dialog going on.
this accusation thing against me is ridiculous also.
if someone has compromised my nsec and are using it, i'd like to have that be a public thing because i have not seen any evidence to support this hypothesis.
the whole point of nostr signatures is exactly about the improbabliity of the content of the event being not authored by the person who controls the nsec of the npub.
These are being sent from a different npub, so that's an irrelevant point.
People spin up npubs to post something snarky, every day. I get that all the time. It's why we don't let anons post replies on theforest.
If it's you, stop. The joke is worn thin. If it isn't you, then you have nothing to stop.
I would like for everyone to get along, please.
Who knows?
Sometimes you hear an accusation and are like, "No way that's true. I know him, he'd never do that."
And other times it's, "Eh, maybe, maybe not. I could see it."
This is a case of the latter, so I am obligated to shitpost. It could also be possible that Veritas has made a comeback and is spamming us with his prolific library of depraved gay porn. Or some savvy mastodon or bluesky user thought it'd be fun to "get back at those Nostr Nazis" for pride month.
veritas has repeatedly put disgusting images and gifs into replies to me a long time ago but he obviously got tired of it. i don't see him as someone who would be spamming nostr in general, or impersonating people, he's quite happy to be up front about what a ridiculous nazi turd he is. he is also a nostr dev as well so i don't think he's got the character that would do this sort of shit.
idk who it is or what their motivations are but number one they are not fans of nostr. i doubt that anyone with a public profile would do this kind of shit.
i don't like a lot of the more well known nostr devs but none of them have a reason to do this shit, and i'm perfectly happy to roast them about their superstitions about privacy and the retarded encryption scheme they all came up with, paying some retarded "security consultant" to give them some kind of check of approval for it.
seriously though, with the volume of text i post do you think i would have time to work a fiatmine shitcoin job, write all that shit, and handle media that i would prefer i never saw an example of in my life ever? not only that, i have an uncommon perspective on homos because i have had a lot of interaction with homos in my life, and i doubt homos would do this shit either.
the spam attack smells like glowie shit to me. and semisol's work with hardware signers would be a red flag to a bull for this kind of people. you'd have to be trying to shut down nostr altogether to do this kind of pissing in the pool. not spending most of your spare time building for it.
it just reflects on his autistic and immature attitude that he can't even think through the social context or psychological motivations to come up with the idea that nostr's most famous war and peace sized post writer would even have the time, let alone the motivation to drive people away from nostr.
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Well this should be interesting...
Anyone can do the same. Bugs in some clients put a much heavier load on relays than gay porn ever could — and no one really cares.
The porn scares of new users and makes existing users leave.
Spam attacks are expected and clients and relays are trying to find new ways to mitigate them, but when you spam porn your not just spamming your trying to hurt the small community
If he has kids, he should open that spam folder he was spreading on nostr and show it to them - just to see their reaction. Spamming porn like that? Honestly, it’s one of the most disgusting and intellectually banktupt things a person can do.
Modern kids aren't shocked by porn or gore at all, and Nostr was never meant to be kids-friendly to begin with. As for spam, both Twitter and other social networks have always had entire networks of spam bots pushing specific narratives — which is far more disturbing than encountering gay porn.
So, you think it’s fine to dump porn into public feeds? That’s not edgy — it’s pathetic. It says more about the person doing it than anything else: mental illness !
I'm not accusing him of it, at least not till I see convincing evidence. But either way I don't think porn spam is good for nostr while it's growing.
Like with any spam, there's no need to fixate on the porn — and again, anyone can be a "spammer" since it's technically easy to do. The "seriousness" of the act should be judged not by the type of content in the spam, but by the load it puts on the network. Otherwise you'll end up claiming that a black dick is worse than a DDoS.
Impact.
If the network gets DDoSed or spammed with dick pics, it doesn’t matter, as long as the impact is mostly the same to users. (Nostr becoming hard to use)
In this case the impact was on clients, not relays
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The guy with the biggest gay porn collection in all of nostr is, checks note history... A Christian statist Trump supporter.
I do believe I called that.
How did you verify this ?
é fácil babe, há pessoas que se autenticam em todos os relays.
🫵 - não vou apontar dedos.
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How do you know?
He explained it to me.
For clarification, this is about the snarky "Use nostr.land to get rid of spam" stuff, not necessarily the gay porn and the scrambled text replies.
if he had evidence i was involved it would have to be an incriminating piece of text with my pubkey and a valid signature on it.
if he does have such a thing, and he's not asking me directly "dis you?" that's very unfriendly because if my nsec has been compromised then i do have a big problem.
It's not compromised.
Trying to say that “I didn’t do this because I didn’t sign a note saying I did”, is like saying, I didn’t rob a store because I didn’t testify that I did.
No one will ever admit to wrongdoing unless they have to, and not admitting does not dismiss the fact that the security camera showed you robbed the store.
I'm starting to feel like I'm sitting at the high school lunch table and my guy frens are shouting at each other, over their lunch trays, and accidentally knocking over my drink.
🤣 true.
I honestly could care less at this point about what mleku does unless it is actively harming me.
GitCitadel as well is free to do whatever it wants, as long as they accept who they are being associated to, and even then software is software.
if semisol hates me so much, then i'm not in any mood for more of this shit, i've got much more interesting things to do like, you know, my shitcoin job, which is more fun than this teenager grade nonsense.
i woke up this morning to see a dozen messages related to his accusation against me, and if this is going to be the pattern for a while until whoever is behind this gets tired of it or feels they have achieved their mission, great, i'll see you all next week or so.
Doesn’t Semisol hate everyone? Maybe it’s just me 😂
I don't understand what is going on lol but they are both top tier curmudgeons with top tier posts.
Omf bahaha why is nostr:npub1rjwumr7j6tac08t0qttvc44walt549nc4eyyxjc0phn6yxzj7uzq0accc9 there?
Cos he likes a good moan lol
I am a curmudgeon evidently, and if you don't like that, well then, you may stuff it up your arse.
half of these people are assholes tho. realy.
semisol accused me of ... what is it called? extortion?
It is getting tiresome
I feel like i'm watching my two nephews argue over who gets more time with the Playstation 4 but then they end up getting in a fight and accidentally smash the console into little pieces.
did you just say that @semisol is acting like a child?
In this particular case, yes.
i'm done with him and everyone who gives him the time of day at this point
Well, okay, stop whining.
Just built a fantastic #realy installer for normies and it's the relay behind the new version of our homepage. Spent three days working on it. 😂
Do you want me to PR it, to your repo, or keep it in gitrepublic-web?
I'll just PR it. You probably muted me. 🙄
i'm not muting you but i don't think realy is stable or functional enough
Then we fix it.
It's just a local cache relay.
Was originally using a browser indexedDB, but Badger is better.
probably the http stuff is more reliable but i'm quite sure that there is issues with the way i constructed the database keys, for one thing
as i have been really intimate with the details of the necessary consequences of nostr's design, it's actually a LOT more complicated than it has to be. the json escaping, the websocket states, the complete lack of need for kind when there is tags already, the free form format of tags, the stupid single letter tags, the construction of the filter with its inline omitonly format and arbitrary and pointless use of the # symbol, the automaticsubscriptions on everything, the lack of thought about administrative access requirements, the utter tire fire that is auth.
so that's a long way of saying, good luck, have fun
I am having a lot of fun with it, actually. I love having a relay that I can tinker with.
Also, found a fun use case for SSE. 😊
I'm testing. If I find something dramatic, I'll send you a PR.
well, for one thing, i can definitely say that the database indexes should be using binary.BigEndian not LittleEndian. that will definitely improve the seek performance as bisection scanning will actually work.
but more likely the issues will be related to the complications of access control. clients made this into such a moving target to get working that i finally had enough of trying to make it work. without cooperation from at least one client dev i am wasting my time.
I said that it's the default DB of gitrepublic-web, so that's going to be one social and git client that it should integrate well with.
It's a personal cache relay, but the client also uses the community relays and then syncs between them, on the backend. So, Realy doesn't need to connect to any other client, to be useful.
I'm calling it the "spoke" relay, with the theforest/thecitadel as the "hub" relays.
It's so fucking fast OMG.
I made the client really, really, thin, integrated the API, and just let Realy fly. ✈️
I monitor the network connection and automagicall adjust relays, protocols, image loading, etc.
I que everything, when online and offline, and when someone gets back to a fast network, it speeds up and autosyncs in the background. I've tried it out. User can't tell when it is in which state, unless they're offline for a long time and run out of new events to scroll.
It's medium-fast, if you using a normal localhost relay, but speeds up, if you go full Realy.
it is really fast eh?
i'd make it also not buggy if i had the time and was getting 2k euro a month to just focus on it.
Yeah, I know. You've earned more than me, on Nostr. I haven't gotten a single cent, so far.
Have to work full-time to afford my hobby. 🙈
i was literally being paid to build relays for most of last year, and because i'm a server dev, the going rate for this work is 30-50USD/hr so i can live decently but only work 20h a week, leaving a lot of time for me to do other things.
i really need to get off this island though. european union gulag food is literally killing me. i'm down to eating cod and potato croquettes and occasionally a well cooked egg or three, almost nothing else can be eaten without bad consequences. no fruit juices either, i have GERD, i stopped smoking again because i feel like i'm about to get gangrene in my hands and feet at this point, i'm drinking milk a lot now but i know that this UHT stuff has very damaged proteins in it that are known to cause kidney and liver problems.
so i'm gonna be stacking as hard as i can, so i can get back to the balkans and find a way to have my own little hovel and bunker in the serbian capathians. where all the pyramid and UFO people gather, the tallest mountain in serbia (if you count kosovo as a different country)
That last bit sounds awesome.
i anyway prefer it over there. the serbian carpathians are my favourite place in the world since i first saw them in 2019, visiting Rtanj and climbing to the top of the mountain with the little chapel that was bombed in WW2 on top.
i subsequently visited a town called Despotovac, just a little northwest of Rtanj mountain and had a really good experience with two of the people i met there, one, an old granny driving an old tank of a yugo commie car, and then an autoelectrician who fed me and gave me some beer. was during the lockdowns. was no lockdown outside of the big cities in serbia. even the regional trains were still running as normal.
i know one thing i could do that might maybe dramatically decrease its' bugginess is to completely remove all of the access control stuff, strip it back to a bare, dumb relay that needs a proxy layer to be useful or is fine with no security ie personal LAN realy. remove the nip-42 also. nip-70, and other things
Well, my client could provide that stuff. I could just ask the AI to copy what you built and then you could remove it.
The logic is already there, in the repo. 🤔
Would moving that stuff to Typescript noticeably slow it down?
yeah, that's what i'm saying. break it down so it's just a dumb relay, with all the go-fast bits, and then do like what nostr:npub10npj3gydmv40m70ehemmal6vsdyfl7tewgvz043g54p0x23y0s8qzztl5h did with the sprockets, except do it as a HTTP proxy, for handling auth and access control and etc. then it doesn't matter so much what language you use, because the core engine does all the heavy lifting, the other things are just gate keepers and don't have heavy work to do anyway, just opening and closing gates really.
Ah, okay, that sounds good. I'll work with it, as-is, and if you want to change it, we can do that in a later iteration.
i'll make a stripped down branch now, i'm kinda a bit idling on the fiatmine job at the moment, some last few bugs the front end dev has found, later today hopefully i will zip that all up and fingers crossed nothing more comes up during the next week.
i'm working on something else at the moment too, a yet another re-imagining type thing, simplifying everything, exhaustively. like removing kinds, making tags just k/v and eliminating complex, arbitrary escapings for just \n and \\ and nothing else required. gonna think about how to write the queries too, something also line structured and sentinel based. Go's top level syntax for file structure is inspired by the same principles used in Pascal and Modula/Oberon where a specific reserved word right after a line break indicates a file section, these are called sentinels. they are much faster to parse and simple to write the state machine for them, you can even be lazy and literally just split a file into lines (step one) and then group those lines by when you find sentinels (step two). i mean, if you can slice and dice strings in any language you can do this. unlike shit like json. i mean, look at yaml and toml, both of these work on a similar line structure basis, toml is better, yaml has this retardo fucking python whitespace syntax shit.
i started doing that and then it was like, ugh, this is the Wrong Way
the Right Way (tm) is to start from scratch and copy in the bits that are needed and remove the extra bits that aren't needed.
so there will be a new https://min.realy.lol that is a dumb, unprotected, spam hungry beast of fastness and speed
i've had a bit of a rough day with people failing to understand the logic of my server's API, still confusion about it 3 weeks after i raised the point that we probably need another table and endpoint to handle some specific state and only just realised today that this had not been understood, and so much difficult communication in the weeks since that time and still no clarity is dawning.
so i'm feeling pretty ugh right now
and i go and look at this code and it's like, to remove all that auth stuff is a massive job, but i have to do it to fix probably what will be most of the problems with this thing and there will be no auth.
i'm really struggling to find a motivation to actually do this.
but then i'm also quite bored. ok, gonna try anyway. just remove all the auth related stuff, and all the admin stuff that requires auth.
anyhow, if you go to https://realy.lol you will find there is now a branch `minimal` which has all the auth removed. it works, seemingly ok, with nostrudel but jumble doesn't seem to recognise that events are saved for whatever reason.
anyway, point being there is now an ultra bare minimum realy that should not be let outside into the wild internet where it will quickly be laden with gay porn and yodabotspam.
and maybe it needs some fixing with how it's sending back OK messages or something.
it also has the HTTP API there but all the admin stuff has been removed because there is no auth anywhere now.
didn't really take me that long to fix. just remove things, then compiler complains with lists of all the things that are broken, i just go through and remove them and recompile until nothing complains and it runs.
that's probably about it for me building nostr relays tho, unless i can get paid for it. my day job is too much of a pain at the moment and i really need to keep this job and also need to recover my dignity and sense of self worth at this point.
Okay, I can branch and fix that.
Just chill out. You're both on the same team.
i don't think you really understand that he has been making very baseless accusations against me of serious misbehaviour.
and people have been spreading this bullshit around.
you can also go fuck yourself if you are gonna dismiss my concerns without even thinking about what the fuck has just been happening.
... no, I'm aware of what's going on. I've been following for a while. I just think it's about time it stops.
😅🫡well, i was just trying to mediate a little. But neither of you seem interested🤷.
Oooo then I don’t get it lol
A lot of data.
i am not afraid to say directly to you that you are a rude bitch. only a coward would do this kind of shit.
everyone knows i'm not a troll.
i'm pretty sure i shit talk other people less than you also, and i'm pretty notorious for roasting nostr devs for hating auth.
this was beyond the pale.
there has been a watershed. before getting called an internet scammer by semisol, and after.
after, there shall be no more following anyone who wastes their time reading your bullshit. and i certainly won't be renewing my subscription to your gay relay.