Which of these wine boxes feels more high end?

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Black.

That said, even black version doesn’t look high end to me.

What could I do to change that?

Any ideas?

I think it’s the combination of flower patterns and the plain white logo.

I know the flower stuff is important to you so not sure how you’d work around that - maybe just limit to a few or even 1 flower? I’ll look for products that look premium to me with black themes

Someone sent this one and I think it's along the lines of what you're saying

Yeah this is better!

Try it in black too. Maybe extrude a few of the flower tips and logo.

Definitely prefer the more minimal take of this one with less busy print all over it.

It looks almost like a japanese whisky box. 💜

White.

Clean, easily readable, and memorable.

Left

Is there velvet? That'd be high end af.

Velvet would be cool

Absolutely would be, but no

both look nice...dark looks higher end imo...

Left. Right has a ‘private reserve’ feel tho

yes this

Why not both?

One is sats and one is bits

Wtf are bits 😉

🤝

They’re both equally acceptable but white is more continued with the brand/labels you have

White 👌

Tbh, white.

Thank you for not lying to me

Agree! 💯 White is the classy choice

I think both. High ending can refer to the pattern instead of color. 😇

Red

I mean black

Thank you for selecting one of the options instead of making a 3rd category 😉

Black FTW

White.

Black looks like a velvet painting = Dogs Playing Poker = Elvis.

IS THAT BAD?

It depends on the residents of Peony Lane.

Black and gold would probably look nice. Like embossed texture. I wouldn't call either high end, but I'm also not a packaging expert.

Black or white and gold would feel high end to you?

I mean gold usually implies high end. I think it would depend how it's executed because it can also make something look low end trying to look high end. I think texture plays a role for me. Otherwise, I prefer excellent simple packaging. It's what's inside that I really care about. Trying too hard can backfire. It's a complex topic for sure. I don't envy you

I think the deliniating line is gaudiness. The red on black would look incredible if **some** of the petals were outlined with a thin gold emboss.

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If the red were replaced entirely by gold?

P.S. Shot in the dark but I know wine and design. We make wine at home and I design album covers. I was recently laid off... lmk if I can help!

Love the ideas. Maybe I'll have a project in the future with some apparel? Does that interest you?

For the wine bottles, my designer is my best friend from highschool so he's not going anywhere

Absolutely I'd be down to do merch designs for shirts or snything else you can slap graphics onto. Been doing stickers and graphics for shirts for decades. I cut my teeth making avatars on message boards back in the 2000s lol

And good on you keeping old friends around! 💪🏽 you're a real one.

Btw if you wanted to save a few bucks, you could do a white highlight instead of the gold foil emboss and itd look very class

Yeah there you go. Gold accents can make things look quite nice

Maybe bottom one, but i love the top one.

White 💯

The black and red, it's very elegant. Please don't use any gold, that always ends up looking tacky.

Ooo interesting. Say more. Others were suggesting gold and my head went there too

Well, I just really like the black and red combination, especially the tone you used for the red, but maybe it's a bit too "busy". What about all black and a single red colored grapevine going vertically down the side? It would still have all the elements you currently have, but just a bit more minimalist.

Black

Orange would be beautiful.

I agree. Maybe for a different bottle

I like the white. I am digging the stripe on the bottom. Would like to see the same with the black.

I have that option for the black but liked it more on the white personally

What if instead of black, the box was the wine color and the decals were white with a white stripe?

That was the first thought, but getting the burgundy color correct is vital in that case and we wouldn't be able to do a ton of samples/testing

Is burgundy to expensive or just to much work Still think it would make a neat limited edition.

Something to think about (if reasonable), don't use straight black. Pick an accent color and just make it really dark. This can make various colors pop a little extra.

I just don't have the time to go back and forth with samples until they get the burgundy perfect so using it as an accent is more flexible

The white print is more accessible.

The black one is sexual. I don’t make the rules, I just report them. Looks like it should have a name like “Billionaire Infidelity” or “Midnight Lover”

#plebchain

So I should definitely go black then 😉

Indeed 😂

Midnight21

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Exactly

Right. But I would also suggest less is best for high end luxury produce like yours.

How would you make this "less"?

Any ideas?

Minimalist to the max! But that’s just me.

They are both too busy to say high end to me. (in my humble opinion)

Try just a touch of the floral in solid colors, black would work too.

I love this. Will send to designer

Oh definitely! ❤️

The dark one is but I would do less pattern have a nice fancy curve at the top & bottom ornamental like & leave it solid one palm tree at most on the front where the name would be behind it.

The second set for me

None of them, because no one buys wine because of the packaging.

Very few people DONT buy wine because of the packaging

depends on your audience

do you wanna look classy

or taste classy

Both and you know that

i'd do some competitor analysis in the market, and see what others are doing well and not so well

might give you a better idea for your own prod

My wife almost exclusively buys wine because of the packaging.

I like the dark one, for a luxury feel

Love the white. For some reason the dark makes me feel like the win itself would be “heavy” or like almost a spirit

Depends what's going in the box. I like the white generally but that red invokes a real bold full bodied petite sirah or something

won't help, but since trump is in charge, i want everything packed in gold

fixed

it's now the trump tower

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Incredible 🤣

wen hiring me for the position of Creative Tard

Don't take my job sir

Dark red, looks like a classy box. White looks like a lesser expensive version.

Dark

But light is more elegant

White -> wedding day

Black -> wedding night 😘

Both classy, I like how the design pops more on the white. 🤙🏽

white. standout.

Asked my wife...white.

Black looks kinda goth she said.

As a low class helicopter pilot , I’d expect to the one on the right to cost more. 🚁😎

I’m not wealthy enough to know, but I like how the logo on the white one blends in.

It’s more about the texture than the print 🤷‍♀️

Darker one

Absolute beautiful boxes! Dark is classy and sexy, white the design really pops. I feel the deep red stripe at the bottom of the white makes it feel a little less luxurious. All white may bring up the ‘high end’ tone. But nonetheless, darker colours always feels a little more higher end to me

I guess when it comes to high end liquor, typically I find the box itself can stand in its own as a decoration in a home. When designing these boxes, a question to ask yourself, could this box itself be a piece of decor in someone’s home?

White, though I agree with a few others that a more muted design would elevate it. And more importantly, use quality/textured/matte packaging material.

The dark one reminds me too much of Apothic, which is definitely not high end.

Dark

White

R

Left looks like a page in a coloring book. Right looks sexy AF.

Right one .

But I like the Left one more😆

The left but made black and white.

white. the black is cool but has too much of a nightclub feel to it to be classy.

The dark one

Flowers? Looks like perfume or tea. Not wine.

Thanks for the feedback

Brand is Peony Lane

Both are striking.

Left/white feels more "classy" high-end, sort of legitimately higher brow in its understatedness.

Right/black feels more "trashy" high-end, like it might attract real estate agents.

im a fan of the left

Red and BLACK

White and Red feels classy. Red and Black is cool but reminds me of the Apothic wine brand

I tend to like the darker boxes personally, but that's just me. The white one, you can see the the design of the flowers better. Doing dark on dark isn't great. If you did like Black with the flowers being white or something brighter, so they stuck out a little bit more it might feel more "high end" i guess.

The lighter looks more expensive, the right one would but the Peony lane logo needs to be purple on black too

Left. The black one feels unsophisticated and somewhat yob-ish.

Packaging feels a little soap/tea like, , would adding images of grapes to the peonies add wine-osity? 🤔

Not a wine drinker myself but🤷

Brand is called peony Lane, this the peonies not grapes

Yes, I am aware. I just doubt most people would recognize peonies, so it would just come off as a floral print (which makes it look like soap or tea)

If I didn't already know peony lane was a wine brand I would not look at this box and say "aha, I bet there is wine in that box"

But like I said, I'm not a wine drinker. Perhaps wine drinkers recognize wine boxes by general size or something.

I think it may depend on the contents of the box? Maybe a lighter wine gets the light box, darker or special release gets the right?

That said, if I got the box on the right, I'd almost expect it to be felt/faux velvet textured. The white logo also clashes.

Ooh, you are so right on the white logo clashing. The contrast had me squinting to take in the red against the black

It's gotta be flexible for a few different ones given the quantity I have to order

definitely agree to all this! darker box for special release, though.

I'm getting Trader Joe's vibes for some reason 🤷

dark

2nd

Men in BLACK

♠️🍷

Both, but white always for me

Woof white 😉

Dark one!

White one

Dark one

I think both🤌🏻

Black. It makes the white logo stand out. And any damage on white is easier seen than on black

Huh, seems a bit divided, I prefer dark for what it’s worth.

I like what you’re doing nostr:npub153xmex42x4chdf757hp3q6zxagykkek7pdgwuwd074964dkyha9s82ryu8 both designs are bad ass. The white should be the regularly level high end and the black should be black label high end. I’m guessing all your products are high end. Can’t wait to try them 🫡