I don't care about #Pubky. I'm NostrOnly.
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Now what the heck is Pubky?
Something that's not worth my time to explore.
I do like em but I think there’s a point 😉
please, at least check pkdns: https://github.com/pubky/pkdns
It seems like they're trying to imitate nostr, but I haven't read docs on it yet. 😂
Exactly. Why not just build on and enhance Nostr?
“why not enhance the fediverse?”
- fediverse people on nostr
Fedi is inherently broken.
I like the idea of DHT getting around the need for DNS. At least if I understand what proponents of the system have said on nostr, but having not read the docs, I can't really speak on it.
My loose understanding is that some of this is already being worked on with Nostr by several people.
I thought so too, but I had lost track of the project.
Sames. We have too many 🤣 nostr:nprofile1qqs9pk20ctv9srrg9vr354p03v0rrgsqkpggh2u45va77zz4mu5p6ccpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9thwden5te0dehhxarj9ehhsarj9ejx2a30qyg8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnddakj7xph5zr perhaps remembers. He used to share it I believe.
You analyzed it correctly. Makes every npub a censorship-resistant dns so you can own a piece of the internet.
Where nostr is 6 nodes #pubky is 6 million.
The two systems can work together but pubky is working now. Nostr could integrate it. It might take a day, it might take a year, but it wont take 10 years.
Users get 10x or 100x more options. So some are adopting early.
It'll take days, once someone takes on the task. It's an impressively simple solution 😏
A Free as in freedom alternative to DNS is as worthy for development as the relay itself.
There's nothing inherently wrong with creating a competing protocol, if their core concept is different. We're not obligated to use it, or anything, and we should be open to someone outside of our Nostrverse having a good idea. We're not the only clever people on the planet.
But, I'm not really sure why this bubbled up, to be honest. I just saw Melvin talking about it and everyone got all excited for no reason. I've been looking into it and 🤷🏻♀️ whatever.
Astroturf marketing.
All my frens are here.
#Pubky is Slashtags rebranded. Rebranding is never a good sign. Its the same group as the Keet guys. Fundamentally they are struggling with traction, their protocol is obtuse and difficult to build on.
I get that having a bittorrent style DHT might be useful but the latency and discoverability issue is not gonna compete with nostr websockets. And there is a solid reason why SimpleX is using websockets and unidirectional pipelines for their chat servers. It just *Works* better. Not perfect p2p networks but for the purpose of social connectivity you gotta cut some edges off.
Love the idea, but also felt like I wasted enough time looking at Keet/Kademila/Hypercore rebranded twice to Pear. Great marketing but underlying adoption will not happen at Nostr Speed.
Nostr has its problems but its strength is that weekend warriors can contribute and for a scrappy distributed protocol this is what you want. Not $10 million dollar per VC app companies that refuse to hire american citizens and don't really welcome opensource part time contributors.
You are gonna need all the hands you can get to build something anti-big tech and by removing as many complexity barriers as possible you can achieve it with max leverage, less labor and less time to generate the network effect for survival.
#Nostr Will Survive. There are enough builders who don't need a PHD to make it work. That's the #1 key factor here.
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Somewhat surprised to see you arguing in favour of an ICANN only approach.
not surprised you are making up things about what you believe I’m in favour of. I am also not picking this as a battle to fight right now
Oooooh, I was not aware it was a slashtags rebrand
I also didn't know, consider me uninterested now
Because it isnt, really. Slashtags was an attempt to build our vision using hypercore, we scrapped that design and made Pubky instead.
It took us 1 year to make Pubky. This is a the product of the hard work of a dedicated team trying to help users.
If you want to learn about new things, we have lots of info about what makes Pubky different, but we also understand people feel loyal to their social media protocols, and might prefer to discredit us.
I do not think pubky is a nostr competitor... the technologies barely overlap imo ..... at the same time, both can benefit from each other... or at least that is how I understood pubky..
Also pkdns is such a cool thing
pkdns is awesome !
I customized rnostr so that the nostr relay can be accessed via a pkdns domain. I think it'd be nice if nostr relays didn't depend so much on DNS ...
I don’t even know what it is
I have no idea what #pubky is, and at this point, I'm too afraid to ask.
The most important thing is that it doesn't matter, permissionless protocols don't care about personal opinions, if the thing is good, it will find its way. Keep buidling 💪
I thought we are all here because we want to maximize freedom, not because we want to belong to a cult.
We should use all of the tools available to make a better world, and it doesnt really matter who or what created them as long as they provide solutions towards a better future.
We are building for freedom. its hard enough as it is to fight the forces of centralization and compliance without fighting between ourselves and creating new divides.
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If you are curious, we made this megapost that guides you through the Pubky system.