WE SHOULD LEAN INTO ZAPS HARD.
MOST NOSTR APPS SHOULD HAVE AN INTEGRATED WALLET.
CASHU SEEMS IDEAL.
Discussion
Yes 🙌
I need to learn about cashu. Read it's fairly simple.
Yes
YES
An integrated wallet for sure 💜🧡
I just tried nostr:npub1v5ufyh4lkeslgxxcclg8f0hzazhaw7rsrhvfquxzm2fk64c72hps45n0v5 for the first time on a desktop browser... i left confused. I logged via nostr... tried to zap, said i need to login via fountain... did that and then they wanted me to use their wallet? Got 404 when trying to view my profile... maybe i'm retarded 🤷♂️
I think fountain is fully custodial wallet for now… no option to use Nostr Wallet Connect or Cashu just yet as far as I’m concerned
Zaps are freedom of expression.
Peoples first touch point with bitcoin will be zaps on NOSTR
Can cashu integrate into nostr now?
Roger
GM to you too!
Eu uso coinos.io me pareceu a mais amigavel
nostr:nprofile1qqs2uyqg6gunpdmkcxqf9ah2ks0ykz0u70cr7djpkx6wdm3659ndwcqpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qythwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnswf5k6ctv9ehx2ap0zfe8xc, is this the ecash moment you've told me about yesterday? 👀🥳
No but this is top priority IMO with nostr apps
More built-in cashu wallets are a must
Couldn't agree more. Minibits definitely has NWC, but I don't think Cashu does..
Cashu is the 'protocol'
Minibits is the app which uses the cashu 'protocol'
& cashu uses lightning (doesn't have to) so therefore NWC can be easily enabled with many cashu-based apps
Right but I meant cashu.me the wallet
I may have to read up on cashu some more. Like why aren't we passing those tokens as easily as we're sending zaps... It's just text we could just do notes!
Wasn't there a Nostr app that uses ecash? 0xsomething?
Ah yes nostr:nprofile1qqs9pk20ctv9srrg9vr354p03v0rrgsqkpggh2u45va77zz4mu5p6ccpzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgkwaehxw309a5xjum59ehx7um5wghxcctwvshszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qrxnfk put NWC on cashu.me
Works great I use it on desktop often
Just need to leave the window open to use
We must ZAP ⚡️ our way to adoption.
Ride or die 🫡
#Zaps are the future 🚀
THE ZAP TO LIKE RATIO IS TOO DAMN LOW
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YESs 💪
Still haven’t figured out zap 😅
I’m in NY and on iOS. So most lightning wallets aren’t compatible.
Looks like only option is NWC wallet or Alby on Damus but haven’t figured out setup yet.
I spent all day figurimg this out:
So I spent literally all day today fucking around w different nostr clients & trying to figure out how to use a single wallet on them without having to pay an arm and a leg as a monthly fee or running some server-like thing on my desktop.
Here's the best option I figured out so far:
1) Create a wallet on YakiHonne
2) Create another wallet on Primal and fill it by converting fiat on that same app
3) Transfer the sats from the Primal Wallet to the Yakihonne wallet
4) Create an Alby account
5) Hook up the Yakihonne wallet to the Alby account
6) Connect all the nostr apps (except Yakihonne to the Alby account
Guys, this is INSANE. No normie is going to go through this ever. We need to figure out a better way if we want Nostr and zaps to be widely adopted by the general public.
If you know of an easier way, please let me know.
I followed this tutorial and it worked for me.
I’m in NY so apps have restriction regarding lightning client.
Anyway this worked for me:
https://primal.net/e/note1y7lzd6v6a5fj5hnjw32gzjrv7u7fzy5n4kg2hz75462ltmcs49aqg628wt
Also if you use Alby then I think you can connect it to Damus easily as we, but just looking at coinos it was hard to find intuitively way to connect it. You have to know what’s a nostr wallet connection is…. (NWC) …
Agreed! Please integrate Cashu! Zaps! Zaps! Zaps!
Have been playing with Olas. One click nip61 nutzap wallet in app. Posted content. Zaps came into wallet. Zero effort or knowledge. 🐿️🐿️🐿️
#cashu
Or make it one click to install Phoenix from the nostr app, update zaps to support bolt12, update Phoenix to support zaps (it already does bolt12 well) and nwc 😅
You could zap ⚡️ me some big zaps ⚡️ and I’ll distribute them 🤣🤣🤣
why is the primal wallet function KYC?
Because it's built by a company owned by known people, so the government can send agents to imprison them if they don't add KYC/AML policies.
that is not the reason. Its about custodial vs non custodial.
If government would not enforce KYC/AML exclusionary policies, then no custodial wallet would require KYC. KYC is just extra burden that no one wants to do, it's annoying, you have to integrate with someone providing it as a package, etc.
I agree that this is circular - when you do custodial wallet, then government will kneel on you and then you have to do KYC.
yakihonne's working great for me past few weeks. can even use the nwc from the built-in wallet in other apps 🤙
can you install it from Github yet?
i did not personally try, got it from zapstore but pretty sure you can now
nostr:npub10wzfa7jkqj6c65xyr93hhxrns37ml9tss82jvymv8fymwdtu6cts3h6pvr ^ LF Do it
Yep
Nutzaps or bust!
nostr:note15le4kndywjy6rgv2uq67x4ytd65kmtykqv8f8ndhxjyfuhklf0ss8yqumt
Happy with my NWC nostr:nprofile1qqst4qyeqenw7zm0fwjsty68h6cnys5jre2xd8ngqpjv5a2j26s78fspzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm0d9hx7uewd9hj75a0pev wallet
I use minibits. Does that count? Zaps have plummeted the last couple weeks, other folks confirming. For my case some say it might be because I use minibits. 🤷🏻♀️
I just zapped you and it worked fwiw.
Thank love. Yes, absolutely. The question is do they work consistently every single time? I've come across notes by the same user showing up consecutively on my timeline and successfully zapped a couple of notes but not the next (of the same user). So it raises questions.
You make me swiftly test zap you everytime you complain.
nostr:npub18m76awca3y37hkvuneavuw6pjj4525fw90necxmadrvjg0sdy6qsngq955 + CASHU = nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg competitor
Competition is Good for EVERYONE
Disagree, sorry.
#Cashu tracks you and wants many permissions you may not like. See analysis by #Exodus.
I don't think Cashu is ideal, regarding your privacy. It ruins the substance of #Nostr
Cashu is a protocol. People can use any app/wallet they want. I don't know which specific wallet are you talking about? Just pick one that doesn't track you?
Yall have all the money and went with primal wallet. Come on odell whats really good. Am i the only one with balls to tell these people how it is. Odell you guys have all the money and went with primal. Heavy with primal.
Caveat— imho Nostr clients need to implement NWC as an option to give users wallet choice.
Wallet exclusivity is a centralised point of failure and can lead to mandatory doxxing/kyc, money services business complications, money travel rule and other regulatory issues that could expose users and destroy a NOSTR client. If the wallet itself needs to be subject to those considerations, fine, but give users a choice at the client level, or suffer the consequences.
If you know any *very* popular Nostr clients forcing users to use one wallet, (and I know we all do). Do not use this client until they put wallet connection freedom back in the hands of the user.
It’s a risk, you all know it.
But why are a dozen seperate integrated wallets better than one wallet that connects to every app via NWC? The latter seems like a much better option from a management standpoint. I'd rather have one central wallet than a bunch of integrated wallets with individual balances I need to manage. Am I missing something?
Most people aren't going to run a node for nwc.
What? You don't need to run a node to use NWC. Many custodial wallets support it. Minibits, Cashu, LifPay, and Coinos all support NWC.
Don't use custodial wallets....please.
Why do you care if people use custodial wallets for zaps? Also, most lightning wallets in use are custodial. There are some with integrated nodes (like Breez, Phoenix, Blixt, and Zeus) that are non-custodial, but most are custodial. I wouldn't hold a significant sum in a custodial wallet, but for zapping they're just fine.
The point is if you have a built in wallet, it should be not custodial. I have zero issues for zaps alone. Built in nostr wallets however have muchore they can be used for. Zaps, on chain, ln payments, large payments on shopstr, sports betting, whatever.
Hopefully in the future, 20 sat zaps won't be the only thing happening on NOSTR.
I believe these built-in wallets are custodial. You don't get a seed phrase to restore your wallet elsewhere. I think individual, built-in wallets should be an option, but not the only way. Freedom is about giving people options wherever possible so they can choose for themselves. Personally, I just don't like the idea of having to manage a bunch of integrated wallets. I'd rather have the ability to use my chosen wallet with every client.
I don't see why they have to be. They can easily make built in wallets that aren't custodial. But sure, connecting to one is easier. I also don't think in the long run there will be more than a few clients. Most will die out.
the technology needs to change a lot so that self-custody can be easy, cheap, and safe for hundreds of millions of people. if you lean into things like cashu now, it becomes normalized. you can say to yourself, "oh, it's only a little bit," but then it becomes more and more. go ahead and have fun with your cashu, but you should demand better instead of becoming complacent. it's really not good enough.
Zap is Bitcoin, Like is a shitcoin.
I have been wondering if nostr will transition from lightning to ecash for zaps one day
Nostr will integrate bitcoin into everything. There is no limit
Yes
TGIF I’m going ZAPPIN
YES, STAY HUMBLE AND STACK ZAPS ⚡️
nostr:nprofile1qqs2xugc5jyguqkj36rk0syv4tmnkjdtmtperttl7x9rqjy3ustdcvcppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qg6waehxw309aek2mnyd96zumn0wdnxcctjv5hxxmmd9uxa0uz8 has that covered! 😉
Primal native wallet works great, imo...
🤷♂️
yeaj just gimme your useless zaps
JK
Spread the wealth. If it’s freedom money, help free more people. Lead the way. Be a freedom fighter.
I’m on nostr:npub12vkcxr0luzwp8e673v29eqjhrr7p9vqq8asav85swaepclllj09sylpugg . How does one send/receive Cashu? And where does one spend it?
I'm not sure how to get Cashu and at this point I'm afraid to ask.
cashu.space
Downloaded eNuts and connected my npub. Is it possible to add the wallet to Nostr on Amethyst? Trying to get rid of WoS.
Don't use enuts it isn't maintained. Use nostr:nprofile1qqstxwlea9ah3u6kjjszu6a7lrnhqkfh8eptp2z6v0e9558tlkkl2rgpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuerpd46hxtnfduhsz9mhwden5te0wfjkccte9ec8y6tdv9kzumn9wshszxnhwden5te0wfjkccte9ekkjmnfvf5hguewvdshx6p07xr4s5 or cahsu.me
Thank you. I think I figured it out. I'm gonna zap you. Can you zap back a couple of sats, please. Just wanna make sure it is working fine.
If you want to lean into zaps hard, what about a monthly contest as a suggestion? It’s fun and lighthearted. And it spreads the wealth.
On a day each month, Select 100 random Nostr users covering a variety of topics/interests who actively post authentic content on an almost daily basis. Wallets must be activated. Each user will receive a whale zap of 1million sats.
If not monthly, then run the contest daily at 3 users per day, which some might prefer. Same criteria as above. You can start today. Call it the “1 Million Sats a Day Giveaway” or “Who Wants to Be a Nostr Millionaire?” or something cooler. You can also create a different criteria if you’re not interested in the one above.
Go big or go home.
Based on the math, it’s basically 1 Bitcoin per month. Y’all got it.
Yeah
ZAPS IS ALL I GOT !
NIPs 60 and 61 are not listed in the documentation, I am studying NIP 47 but it takes a lot, 60 and 61 looks much more straightforward
Need a repository for apps that fit this bill... A ZapStore, if you will.
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Yep. #nostr #safebox is intended to integrate with any client. It will store health data, too!
What's the point? I use Amethyst + Phoenix wallet on my phone, and zaps works seemlessly
Agree, and we should change the like button to a dislike and zap will be the new like
Integrate NWC and then the user brings a wallet of their choice. Can be custodial, self-custodial, ecash or lightning!n