#nostr accounts shouldn't be called accounts as they aren't accounts. What's a better word? #asknostr

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I like "persona" instead of account.

I have multiple personas, which I might like to express via multiple npubs.

Identity is and always has been prismatic. You're a different person in the office, at home, at church, or at a strip club.

Identity also isn't self-assigned, which is why #WoT needs to take personas into consideration.

You might trust your doctor with health advice, but probably not with investment advice. Likewise, your financial advisor might not be the best person to ask for recipes.

what's your handle?

what's your @?

We can't have handles on nostr because of Zooko's triangle.

Best we can do is self-hosted NIP-05 which turns your domain into your handle, which is why the following link leads to my profile:

njump.me/dergigi.com

oke i see now what you mean

i say we rebrand what handle or @ means - both nip05's and npub can fall under it 😗

Ahhhh ok

Sad once I read Zooko I'm just out. I'm sure he has a great triangle. May his groceries never end.

Well somebody should tell Zooko to stop with that triangle so that we can.

Namecoin

We are gonna land on local llm with periodic fine tuning and some rag eventually. I'll wait patiently. Everyone converging slowly.

im not.

im pretty much always me idk

You're a different you at a funeral & at a rave party.

At an atomic level there is no difference. But at a funeral you're dead.

Not everyone is lol

I teach my grandbabies that rules are different in different places and they get it from a very young age and for that matter so did my poodle

Persona gives me a fake non authentic vibe

Fair.

Agree. Plus I dontbwanna be italian

I was just about to say it.. I mean I am Italian, but fuck yeah! nostr persona!

But I don't wanna be italian

None does 😂

Persona comes from latin anyway..

Rome will never die lol

Gradually, then suddenly.. 😂🤣😅🫂💜

I hold my breath every march but never any Ides.

I like persona(s)

I like persona

I prefer npub. Its very short and nostr specific. Persona is a mouth full as it has three syllables already. Plus you would need to explain the context: The term is not nostr specific.

Fair. My main point is that, in a permissioned system, the system usually encourages ONE account.

We shouldn't necessarily do that on nostr. I'd love e.g. the encouragement of temporary npubs to try out a client, etc.

I also like npub. 🤷‍♀️

I've got like 8 of them, already, but this is my main one.

I like npub too but it's context dependent. What I want to get rid of is the "Create account" buttons.

"Create npub" doesn't work in that case, it's too confusing if you're new. "Create profile" is great, so I guess a profile has an npub, but isn't an npub.

Sorry what's wrong with "identity"

People are used to having multiple profiles.

Only weirdos talk about their different identities.

psychopaths and glowies but i repeat myself

i think profile is the right word... but i don't really see what is wrong with account, because it's just an identifier that associates many related items, the word account also means a story

account means "email/tel nr + password" for normies

profile doesn't

Four syllables

Yeah, I think profile works well there. Also makes NIP-sense because we have profile events and that's what you're literally creating.

...but it doesn't work in the "what's your profile" sense because profiles change. The npub is static, which is why "what's your npub" works.

Maybe #nostrname - I use the #nostrname to locate someone first and then check the npub and nip-05 to see if they’re legit. There is a reasonable code of conduct not to use someone else’s name, but it is hardly trustworthy without the additional checks. Just see nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m and see how many jacks are out there.

problem with “profile” is that word has pejorative connotations, like you’re being “profiled” or the FBI has a profile on you.

What about “gateway” or “portal”?

Address?

nAddy 🤠

I prefer “profile” because it’s information that can be known by others and in most cases is made pubic. In contrast, “settings” is specific to the device or service and is usually private.

I don’t like “persona” because it sounds too metaphysical for the average user.

I lean towards "Join Nostr" lately. And then some explainer that on Nostr it's all secured by cryptographic keys - "profile" misses that point even more than "account". I feel it should be "Nostr _network_" (not abc.com) -> "Keys/nsec/npub" -> "Profile, notes, etc". If we don't talk about keys then we might as well just keep using "account".

And I think "what's your npub?" seems like the best option - it's short, it's purpose is same as "handle", it's new and different (people should learn about public keys), and it's shorter than "nostr id/address". OTOH even if we all start using "what's your npub?", I would bet people will be using "npub" to mean nip05 eventually, because nip05 serves the same purpose and is human readable.

Yeah, I like that. Language and meaning has a tendency to shape itself around the easiest way to say things and accrue the right meaning. “npub” can do the job.

Create access key?

Nvoice

Come on guys you gotta admit does have a ring to it...

Sounds like "invoice" so it's bound to confuse.

😭😭😭 my dream of monetization is in ruins

Fair enough back to the drawing board

too geeky for the average noob though...

Then again, they do not have to understand it to use it.

My girl Sybil is totally down with that😀

Identity?

Key? 🔑

Pairs

Or pears? 🍐

Hash?

Profiles?

Identity?

Pubkeys

nyms

I use "npubs" as a noun. If twitter manage to make "tweet" a thing, so can we meme "npubs" into human natural language.

Good point. "What's your npub" is something I've said many times already.

npub seems the obvious and already adopted choice 🤔

I agree w npubs. Make it so 🔥

Actually it works well

Does it mean “Nostr public key”?

Npub?

Profiles

Works well for "Create your profile" but not so well for "What's your profile?"

In any case, I like it & something appropriate will emerge organically in time.

It does the job to replace the centralized notion of “create account”.

Maybe nostr address could be used for the latter. “Whats your nostr address”

I liked the suggestion ’nyms’ and myself though something with pubkey/npub was naturally appropriate

How about profile?

nid?

Nym

nymstr - pseudonym stuff transmitted by relays.

Because if you make a nostr npub that's not transmitted by relays did you really even make a nostr npub?

nvoice

“What’s your nostr?” works just fine.

Is 'taxpayer' not universally applicable?

MONEY TRANSMITTRS

Other Stuff

Callsign

identity

Strings

What are the importance of words?

Except "is" according to Bill Clinton and everyone else who didn't call his social engineering, Marxist doublespeak. #wordsmeanthings or nothing means anything.

I have always called them profiles.

nostr:npub1fhpw2ux9flhcxyl6xp84996qgnkkcy59zqzjvq9fhpxcx7upymus69ds8n 👀

Key pairs

#Pub is quite easy and handy and brings no problems of other meanings.

If you talk about bar or a pub you would actually call it by the name of the bar.

Profile

Sparklers

Keys

How about #Nostr Journal

My #Nostr Life

Could go old-school and call #nostr accounts

message boards

Personal Noteboards

I thought about this while having an epsom salt soak, and I think 'Keyset' is probably the right answer.

Or even 'Sovereign Keyset'... given that people are currently being issued keysets that are not sovereign.

Keyset is great. Though maybe not normie friendly.

Time for normies to be exposed to cage vocab IMHO.

Public Citizen Identification (PCI)

kindzero

an0n

profile, identity, pub

#log

#nostrlog

presence

DID decentralized identity.

K E Y S

ID

Great point! Since #nostr is all about decentralization and not the typical account setup, how about calling them "identities" or "profiles"? Both suggest a more personal and less formal connection to the user. What do you think? #asknostr

Identity?

avatar

alias

key holders

Gigis

Thoughts.

Nostradamus had thoughts, insights, predictions.

Logins

Pubs

Nostr Identities? Profile? Universal Passport?

I like npub 🤷🏾‍♂️

I remember 3 days in #trilema chat where all assembled decided to bikeshed the semantics of "post" and "article" when publishing a piece to your blog.

Be sovereign and call it whatever you damn well please.

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People mean 2 different things when they refer to their social 'accounts.'

1. Their identity, specifically the credentials, but also the settings of the attached environment. (i.e. retaining their mute list & dark mode.) We can simply refer to this as our "npubs" or the less-geeky "nostr number."

2. Their presence, which includes their followers but is really the idea of themselves that they've marketed to the world. This is the part they really don't want stolen, and they could care less if it is protected by their identity. I don't think referring to this as part of your npub does is good enough... Once we have revocable npubs it literally doesn't fit anymore.

So far we've only referred to the latter as an 'account', but it does deserve a name of its' own. Perhaps something like their 'social soul' or the more obvious 'social presence.'

Presence

PRESENCE FOR THE WIN

lupins ?

Nym

Keypair

Cryptocount

"Account" is a catch-all term for a user's identity on a platform. I am personally fine calling it an account - although it's just a keypair. But yet, "account" makes /much/ more sense for many people.

Instance.

user

goats

profiles

Agents

What is wrong with account?

It is a general, well known word that does fit the description at a high level. No need to invent a new term. My 2 cents.

you are still spending your thoughts in fiat currency?

I stand corrected. My 2 sats.

Plebs

nbc

nostr business card

NO BETTER WORD THAN PENIS

not sure about that assertion...

identity (ID), profile

Ids (as in id and ego Freud)

npubs

nostr:note1kc8xuy547c4y6k4f50egt9843nelv2ygvpwmv8fyldjyl6vjrvqqgcwyg8

npub. people just think it means "public name"