My missus has been branching out finding new friends but spent the afternoon with 3 of her old friend group.

Two 7s and an 8 - all very eligible girls.

All 3 of them single.

One of the 7s recently so - she’d been dating a fella for 2-3 months and he found out she was still on Tinder so he split. Her excuse was that they weren’t committed/engaged so he shouldn’t have had a problem - the other 2 girls agreed.

All 3 of them have ridiculously high expectations of what they want in a man. Basically nothing less than a multimillionaire rich guy with a sweet car and a six pack who will take her on regular holidays on a yacht.

These girls are broken. There are 9s and 10s coming up behind them who might actually snag this level of man, the handful of them that exist; these 7s and 8s who aren’t spring chickens any more are simply living a fantasy.

They only talk about what they want and have very little concept of what they can offer in a relationship.

I know there are plenty of broken fellas, expecting girls to behave like pornstars and put up with their adolescent behaviour - this is not some one-sided problem.

But this problem is unhealthy for all of us. Society’s stability is based on people pairing up, having children, and trying to produce value so they can create a better world for their offspring.

The whole thing breaks down when the pairing stops. I think a lot of the social issues we see around us are downstream of this point. It explains why statism is at all time highs. Why people buy in to existential crises like climate cultism or Covid. And why populism has returned.

The older I get the better I understand why religion has been so important to humanity; that institution is what anchored this part of the social order in every society for centuries and it’s absence is now acutely felt.

I hope those girls find a man, a suitable partner, and that we all benefit from them contributing to the extended order but man I really think this generation is going to have a big miss.

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i think nostr will fix this. i think these broken values are a result of the fiat algorithms that rule the world. i enjoyed reading that. thank you sir 🙏

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Humanity isn't gonna make it. When I realized this, I fell into a depression. Now, I stack sats and try as hard as possible to enjoy every day of my live. Occasionally, I fall into a light depression but I get out of it with pura vida. C'est la vie...

Lol so many of these people just want some kind of welfare man, if you can't get private welfare (family or a spouse) you will scream for government welfare

The 8 has done some sugarbaby stuff so yeah. One of the 7s runs a successful business and has done well for herself.

Generally though I think it’s more about status signalling. People have had their expectations warped, they’ve seen influencoors and think they should have that life and anything less is “settling”.

This is a very well-worded synopsis of part of the problem.

I think a good chunk of the fault can be laid at the feet of the previous generation buying into the lie that women should have been taught that they should strive for a high-powered career to the exclusion of everything else.

The highest powered position a woman can hold is Grandmother/great grandmother.

The best thing a woman can strive for, barring certain complicating factors, is to become a mother.

There's more nuance to this opinion and the same goes for men in their respective roles as well.

Having a family and becoming a pillar of your community is the highest calling.

NGL I hope these femcels die alone, with no cat.

A woman that self-centered and narcissistic is going to be a horrible mother and/or pet owner.

They have male equivalents, but those guys know what they are.

The genes and ideologies that produce these people need to die out, for the good of the species.

You may be right about their narcissism possibly making them bad parents (I do wonder how much this is a learned trait) but I don’t think these women are femcels.

They could get plenty of guys, they’re not remaining celibate, they’re just holding out for a level of man that maybe they had briefly a few years ago and think they’ll still find today.

It would be better for all of us for them to come back to reality and join the extended order rather than continue down this self-absorbed path but I don’t see it happening. The other women in their circles are reinforcing these attitudes and they’re kind of collectively going down with the Titanic.

That’s a bit harsh. I look upon them as basically victims of psychological abuse. I don’t think it’s pure genetics.

Everyone likes to be told they deserve more. There used to be more positive peer pressure from mostly groups of older women that could spot this type of counter productive hypergamic fantasizing. Think elder family members or women from church.

I think we collectively underestimate the power and extent to which women impose peer pressure on each other vs “patriarchal” forces. Ive met tons of women that gave zero fucks about what their dad said or even actively defied him. I’ve never met one bitch that liked other women gossiping about them. Few.

The peer pressure element is real: nostr:note1alvygnqz3w8sg8xzhcr8s0qgkxf2wr3nj6f7xf5kvs7vs8h0nrgsldmp3w

My missus had a lot of familial pressure, constant nagging by aunties and grannies and in-laws. From what I know her friends lacked that and got their behaviour reinforcement more from friends than family/community.

The lack of this dynamic certainly appears to be a major contributing factor.

Precisely. And I’ll add that peer pressure can be positive as well like the church ladies or your elder female relatives saying maybe you shouldn’t bang influencers off Instagram and find a good honest man instead

I don’t want to sound new age shitter but quite often one gets what s/he projects. Or in other words “you get what you deserve”

That’s funny. 2 of these girls paid a shitton of money for some new age dating course where they were taught the “Law of attraction”.

I randomly bought my missus some flowers last week which prompted her to show me the recently single one posting on Facebook trying to manifest flowers…

If only she had a boyfriend to buy them for her 🤷‍♂️

Or vintage Lennon; “The love you take is equal to the love you make.”

This too shall pass

Sexual selection happens.

Damn

I typed that reply under the wrong note

Ah well you've still got your Bitcoins to console.

Women are reinforcing eachother's terrible behavior to the point now where they're sabotaging themselves and taking the family unit down with them.

This is why my other half is actively seeking out new friends.

She sees that old group reinforcing the same behaviours which have led to them being single - like crabs in a bucket, as soon as one of them has some introspection and tries to deviate they all pile on with guilt trips and shaming to reinforce the group behaviour and pull the individual back into their line, it’s toxic AF.

She also tells me it wasn’t always this bad and that they’re getting worse as they get older, more aggressive about the reinforcement.

Interesting pov

"Basically nothing less than a multimillionaire rich guy with a sweet car and a six pack who will take her on regular holidays on a yacht."

The millionaires I knew were total workaholics. They didn't really go on holidays, just business trips.

it helps to inherit the money

Well, you're spot on with that one. 👍

Doesn't mean you shouldn't work ya ass off, though. Money don't last forever, mate! 🤷‍♂️ I spent a fair amount of time selling what was left of my granddad's art collection. Quite a bit of flights. Not as fun as it sounds 😅.

yup

or just worthless

Those tend to be guys who end up spending the principle, tho. And their whole existence tends to be weird.

Or they have a big trust fund and they spend all day at board meetings and philanthropy projects, and etc.

I can't deny that. I have a decent number of childhood mates whose pockets are nearly empty now! 🤷‍♂️🙄 They spent the majority of their inheritance on partying and going on expensive vacations and whatnot. Many of them seem to have very little, if any, ambition whatsoever. To be frank, this is fairly common behavior. Luckily, my parents taught me right.

Yeah, I know. Know plenty of them.

They would have been better off skipping the bimbos and marrying someone sensible, who would have made sure to secure their fortune, instead of helping them spend it.

But sensible women probably wouldn't have wanted them.

Its such a bizarre mindset, imo. 🤔 People like that will put in an immeasurable amount of mental and physical effort in to flaunting everything they've got. Yet, put absolutely none in to expanding their generational wealth for their children (if they ever have any that is). Blokes like this usually just end up leaving their kids with nothin' but debt. 🤷‍♂️ And usually have fairly dysfunctional families.

Yeah, these couples fit together.

They don’t grasp this dichotomy though.

The 8 had a sugarbaby trip to the US, business class flights and nice hotel for a week and the guy was off working all week - he just took her along as a side piece to bang at the hotel. She cried and complained to the friend group about how she felt used 🙃

It’s not that their expectations are just a bit over the top, that i could understand. It’s that they’re completely disconnected from reality.

They also don’t seem to grasp this basic numbers game of how many girls are competing for so few of these high status men. Talking tens or hundreds of thousands of women for every one of these men, none of those few whom have the spare time for that lifestyle they want, but the girls all seem to think they’ll get what they want eventually.

It's an incredibly multifaceted dilemma. The two largest and most influential determinants seem to be that all forms of media (which the youngest of our global population seem to be obsessed with) have essentially become a means of indoctrination for the most mentally vulnerable (which we seem to have in abundance these days) and sky high living expenses. I could go on but, I'm no author. 😅🤷‍♂️

Hence the explosion in cat popularity.

😂🤣 Nope, you can have em...

It’s all downstream from broken money.

I agree with 90% of what you’re saying but I’m going to push back on the religion aspect. It’s not so much that we’ve “lost religion,” but that male/female roles have changed. Men and women literally needed each other before. When you needed to farm in order to survive, losing your partner meant death. A woman couldn’t have high standards because her life was at risk. A man couldn’t afford to divorce his wife because he needed her help with the children and farm. How can a single mom or single dad survive with children and a farm? It’s impossible so they didn’t even really think about it. But now, all these responsibilities have been automated. A man doesn’t need a woman to take care of his home. He can easily order his dinner and have it delivered through doordash or pop in a microwaveable tv dinner. He can turn on a roomba to sweep the floors or hire a maid. The woman doesn’t need the man to work and pay his bills, she is doing it herself. She doesn’t need the man to protect her, she can carry a gun. The main thing left that men and women truly need from each other is a way to make babies. But you can find anyone to make babies with if you lower your standards. So people look for deep fulfillment from their partner now. They want that perfect romance and a best friend all in one. It’s not unreasonable to want that but you can get stuck looking for that perfect person and you may never find it. And for women this is a lot more problematic because their reproductive clock is much shorter and their peak beauty and fertility is at an age when they are still learning about who they are and what they want from their life. I didn’t really mature until my late 20s and didn’t get a good idea of what I wanted from life before the age of 30.

If those women were to settle for someone and lower their standards, just like men, they’d always wonder what could have been if they didn’t settle. Would they have been miserable and divorced? Would they have felt unsatisfied and chosen to cheat later on?

There’s a lot more nuance to the problem and I think that when Bitcoin replaces fiat, the issue of wanting a wealthy man starts to become less of a problem. More men will be wealthy and women will have more options to choose from compatible men instead of fighting over the few rich guys.

Well said.

Online dating exacerbated this problem so much. Because women get attention from a hundred men, and men give attention to a hundred women. So women will have repeated unfulfilling interactions with guys who really don't care about them very much.

It gives women the illusion that they can have their choice of men, and sets everyone up for repeated disappointment.

If all the single people could just get in the same room together, and everybody pick somebody, this would all work itself out.

Online dating is the elephant in the room.

As soon as anyone complains about it there will be anecdotes of the few people who did meet a partner that way, and flat out denials that it’s a problem.

After all, more people have more options so how could that be a bad thing?

Well exactly as you point out - tons of women get tons of attention so they believe they should shoot for the best of them and skew their expectations upwards, the high status guys get to shoot fish in a barrel, and then the bulk of otherwise eligible fellas get hung out to dry.

That there hasn’t been a significant backlash from “conservatives” in any Western country about these platforms but rather just complaints about fkn TikTok, shows that our “elites” are content with this breakdown in social cohesion so long as they can control the narratives.

Children are ghr meaning of life and it starts with people pairing up. Everything else is noise.

Children are the "tick-tock-next-block" in your DNA blockchain that goes back to the beginning of life on Earth, and possibly beyond.

The survival of your fork depends on their success in producing their own offspring, their own blocks, their own forks.

Otherwise the chain ends, and it's the end of that larger lifeform.

Heh, genetics particular to an individual water down rapidly, there will be very little of you in them in several generations.

Some things fare a little better, but if you are going to pin your hopes on worldly legacy know that all is eventually dust, even the pyramids will fade in the long run.

I'm not concerned with 'watering down'. Just keeping the chain going.

My descendants are counting on it.

It would be a shame if all of my ancestors' efforts were in vain.

Some ancestors went a little overboard on the quantity, I think mine will do ok. 😂

Some seem to have been personally trying to breed their own army...

They get husbands at the age and pairing that they deserve.

Most of the fantastical expectations are just smokescreen justifications for the type of man they once had and KNOW that they should have married.

Religion is grounding to society. Yes it’s funny

How

This has become scandalous — but it’s probably #science— marriage and family are not optional to flourishing human life or functioning human society

If women are competing for something, why aren't they becoming cheaper and instead they're increasing their standards? That always confuses me 🤷

Because nostr:note1h34eqnacjyaelzhuffxay9fraap83jpeu8unjpfvg0lzvt73uhfqzucy5y

So, you're telling me they're just a bunch of losers that love to lose because they have a fragile ego?

If it's like that, maybe social networks and bad culture are the culprit of making broken envious women (and men, I guess).

I suppose people don't relinquish power easily, Even if they don't deserve it.

Min requirements be like

6ft height

6 pack abs

6 figure salary

666... These women are the devil bruh

The power of the pussy.....or something

Women who make the choice to develop their character and openness are more likely to get good men. Women who don't, likely won't. Because high quality men reject low quality women.