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Rely on us …

No.

I can at least understand noobs finding it scary and not wanting to do it at first, not ideal but got to meet people where they are. But we always just push for interoperability standards and not proprietary recovery methods.

Screenshot of Hugo of Nunchuk with the best take so far

Is there any standard better than send a Bitcoin transaction? because is this that nostr:npub1tkey6tcfk0jf2ageje7xvqnnph4443h4pc4aqesuqjeywyke073qfmwral allows. You always have 2 of 3 keys.

Hugo of Nunchuk gave the best explanation of this, it’s not that simple. It’s a nonstandard two of three where the exit is tenuous and non standard and is wholly dependent on proprietary Block maintained software.

See this:

Again a lot of could be or someone could eventually which is strictly worse than the solid battle tested interoperability standards that were established, evolved, and grown over many years. A hypothetical is strictly worse than an established best practice.

Seedless is safer.

This is the biggest issue with bitkey for me. I'm too paranoid to use a non-interoperable method of storing my life savings. Is the likelihood of even needing to use this recovery low? Yes. Is it fine for most people? Probably. But not for cypherpunks.

..To a boating accident.

Missed opportunity.

I lose trust in so called og bitcoiners. that’s all

🤣

that slogan is like bip 177 🙄

That is so f*cking dangerous. I understand they want to offer a more friendly solution for newbies while they educate themselves about bitcoin m, but having that phrase as a slogan is fucked up.

Nah 👋

Beyond a hard “no!” I can’t get onboard with the form factor.

What’s a seed phrase? - Normie

Clock maker down bad

No.

If you can not save 12 words, guess you have difficulty of keeping many other things.

Wow…not impressed.

I’ve heard they save a copy of your seed phrase through email—so in other words, you lost it. Anyway, I would never trust a hardware wallet without a display.

You know, I want to get frustrated with @jack over this, too. But maybe he just understands normies and wants to meet them where they are. I still think it's a bad idea.

Convinience is how you loose the freedoms gained. This cannot be more true for #bitcoin.

I understand the argument to make it easier to facilitate mass adoption. But if we are willing to sacrifice everything that makes #bitcoin the better alternative in service of mass adoption - there is no point in mass adoption, we end up in the same manipulated system.

Let us be careful to not try to gain the world but loose out souls in the process.

#plebchain

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Yes.

What’s the reasoning??

NO 😰😰😰😰

Never spill your seed

Never, I'm using Cypherock. Non custodial, seed phrase stored in 2/5 Shamir secret. Also comes with inheritance support.