OPENSATS FUNDS DEVS BASED ON THEIR PROOF OF WORK ON OPEN SYSTEMS.

WE HAVE PROVIDED OVER 120 GRANTS. NONE OF THEM ARE WORKING ON “SHITCOINS ON BITCOIN.”

IRONICALLY SAYLOR’S OWN IDENTITY PROJECT RELIES ON INSCRIPTIONS.

GRANT RECIPIENTS PROVIDE QUARTERLY PROGRESS REPORTS TO THE BOARD. THESE ARE USED TO ASSESS RENEWAL REQUESTS.

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I wasn’t talking about OpenSats or arguing it doesn’t take measures to ensure their grant recipients are vetted. I was just pointing out that no strings attached is not governed by definition.

Malice is not needed to break things. The path to hell is paved with good intentions after all.

If you think it will break things just don’t run their software

That’s a meme

People running pre taproot Core are still affected by higher fees resulting from ordinals/runes. You can’t escape all unintended consequences from changes to the code

If you need (in a UASF) something like 80%+ or nose to update, it really doesn’t take many people not updating to stop a fork or at least a chain split

*Of nodes

Open sats board has a lot more power to decide on where bitcoin goes than any of us individuals is saylor’s point.

And he is right

Why dont we all just donate straight to devs then?

You can’t compete. Are you gonna fund a dev for 5 minutes? 5 months? 5 years? Do you have the funds for that?

Black rock does, several times over

Im not sure I understand your issue with opensats

I don’t have an issue with opensats, I also don’t think I stated anything that is untrue

Opensats board has ZERO power over Bitcoin.

Can they not find someone to develop or work on a BIP? I can’t do that, therefore they do have more power

Not hard to understand

So what? You choose what to run and what rules to agree with; people can work or fund all kinds of stupid shit, that doesn’t mean you have to run it!

If Bitcoin were susceptible to working that way then there would be a completely failed project.

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I agree, but why are you denying that having funding to pay devs to work on bitcoin is not having more power than me who cannot afford to do that

Because you choose what to run. It doesn’t matter what code *exists*, all that matters is what users use.

Greenpeace had a $5M budget to change a small part of the code. It would cost maybe $10 or $20k to do the actual code changing.

Getting people to run it, tho? Different story, and $5M, or $5B won’t get users to act against their own self-interest.

This is the Brilliance! of #Satoshi's design. The self-interest of the users control #Bitcoin.

Specifically the virtuous full nodes, and #Bitcoin loyalist. They are Bitcoin. Why would they act against themselves or tolerate others doing so..🧡😊

This statement is factually and easily provably incorrect. You should read the blocksize wars. No one can force you to run software. All developers can do is write software. Everyone has to choose what they want to run and it takes a super majority to change the network.

And if I have more money to fund things I want, and can pay ppl to explain why they should want it to

Would that not give me an edge?

The Blocksize Wars taught us it’s unlikely to help. All the big money and companies were on the size of a big blocks hard fork and they still failed.

That’s not to encourage complacency. How the small blockers won was educating, speaking out, advocating, etc.

*cough* ecash *cough* *cough*

In case you’d like to provided DID feedback to MSTR https://github.com/MicroStrategy/did-btc-spec/issues/7

He is visibly shook. The foundation for his logic on why he hasnt supported Bitcoin foss is very shakey and he is smart enough to know that.

Viste el episodio o solo el clip?

A el no le interesa discutir ese tema en publico. Dio su opinion por que Pedro le pregunto. Ademas por que va a querer hablar con alguien que dijo que amenazo a cathie woods y otros para que no donaran cuando solo expreso su opinion acerca del tema en privado. Bad faith criticism aint gonna get him on your pod

Si que escuche el podcast entero.

Si tuviese intención de hacer clara su posición lo hablaría directamente con alguien que lo vaya a empujar un poco más y que esté metido directamente en el asunto de funding developers.

Los argumentos que presentó fueron realmente absurdos porque está diciendo que el no apoya una forma de desarrollo que absolutamente nadie con dos dedos de frente apoya.

Esa no es su intención, por eso solo discute el tema en privado. En este caso le preguntaron su opinion en un foro publico. El esta laser focus como diría en apoyar a bitcoin de otras maneras. Odell fue el que trajo una discusión privada a el publico sin haber el estado presente de mas. Saylor como todo el mundo tiene derecho a tener opiniones de muchos temas que no desea discutir en publico. El no le debe explicaciones a nadie de algo que se discutió en privado.

La gente que actúa como si el estuviese liderando una campaña para que nadie apoye a el desarrollo en L1 no tiene mas nada que hacer.

Don't you get it man, Bitcoin Core devs are the government!

along with miners and non mining nodes

Saylor was making that analogy

I know

i havent watched it yet, does Peter do a terrible job? kinda why i havent watched

no, he didn't do a terrible job, particularly because the interview wasn't *about* this question, it was probably touched upon for like 5 or 10 minutes.

The issue is that saylor explained his position via-negativa where the opposite is an unsustainable and undefendable position he pretty much came up with.

I'm not sure Peter caught that that's what he was doing, but overall he pushed back a lot more than 99% of bitcoin influencers who salivate at the thought of having saylor pump their numbers.

ok, thats relieving to hear

Saylor dunks on shitcoin people and then uses inscriptions. What a fucking joke

Totally agree.

Sounds like a waste of Bitcoin block space project.

What needs so much development?

Gd

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Fighting over opinions and ideas is exactly as it should be. This is good for Bitcoin.

Why are you defensive and feel opensats was implicated in this discussion?