What's stopping you from buying a Bitaxe?
#asknostr #poll
Discussion
don't want to doxx my life to order one in the mail. probably don't have the skill to build one
if not for that I'd be stacking axes along side my corn. seed signer very easy to build. nerd miners are also very easy to build. was reading bit axe build guide over the summer, and it def seemed a bit over my head.
Order one to a friend's house?
eh I probably could, but wouldn't want to put them in that situation either.
where do you order yours from?
I'm placing an order this week.
thanks fam 🫂🙏🏻
what pool do you use? solo or ocean? or another?
In France we have bitcoin bazar which is a physical store. It’s great
How big is the shop?
Not that big, but you can ask them to order for you
Very nice guy
I assumed small micro shop, that's awesome 😎
Yes quite microshop. Bitcoiner set it up. I think they are on here btw I will look back on x I think he shows his nostr public key on it
Me running antminer S21pros.
You solo mine with those bad boys?
No. In fact I manage BTC mining operation. 🌊⚡️⏳⛏️
Exactly & awesome 😎.
Why not add a solo miner or two for the decentralization effect & supporting Open Source mining development?
Money to buy one
Meme harder Harry!
A used S9 is better performance per fiat and can be used for a wider variety of purposes.
Bitaxes are cool, but I'm not likely to ever buy one.
I understand your sentiment, but:
Bitaxe has an asymmetric lottery ticket bet.
The idea is to be able to solo mine, which you wouldn't do with an S9 unless you got the monies to blow on electric.
If enough of us solo mine we will find blocks & that is decentralization at it's finest.
Most importantly, you would be aiding in the development of Open Source mining hardware, instead of living in defeat to Chinese centralized hardware manufacturing.
I think all this together proves its worth, thanks for your honesty!
Yup. I get all that, but... I'm subsidizing my heating bill in the winter and eventually my hot water.
What's your electric cost?
How much did you save in the winter considering btc price of 100k?
About $.12/kWh
No savings, but a reduction. I live in an RV, so it isn't insulated very well.
Savings = reduction.
What do you estimate that to be?
Was it worth the noise?
I spent more doing that than using propane. 🤷♂️
Barely any noise with quiet fans. Running it at 750-900W
Yeah man that's my point!
It's not providing you an economic benefit & you have no 3.25btc upside!
I'm doing it to learn and earn some non-kyc sats.
Commendable & awesome 😎 💗
i'm being conservative and aiming to pay my hosting fees by routing lightning payments but i suspect that i will be able to make nokyc sats running a lightning routing node too, i'm just staying conservative and not aiming too high to start, i'm new to this but i am almost certain that you can make back your routing costs on lighting node running
What's your expected Sat accrual over the next 12-24months?
just to be above zero is fine thanks
Nokyc sats don't matter if you can't buy anything!
Routing is still commendable but to actually accrue a good stack you have to go to greater lengths.
By greater I also mean easier.
BTC ATM.
Robosats.
P2P w cash.
i have a fairly deep understanding of the protocol and if i have routeable inbound this means i can share a key and people can initiate payments to me without my interaction, and their payments are anonymous
so, i'm interested if only for the sake of getting a better practical understanding of how to do fully anonymous lightning poyments
doing it without a lot of capital is not practical, and i can think of no better thing to apply my surplus capital to right now, but learning how to do this thing right, so i can also share this knowledge and help more people establish their lightning citadels
that's the thing... if you understood the protocol right, you would understand that it's litreally better than monero+tor
that's why i was building a tor-like network transport built on the principles of lightning in 2023
I agree with your sentiment!
Hopefully one day you'll also be playing the Bitcoin lottery by helping to decentralize hashpower & promote open source mining!
Any chance you can answer the OP as well? 😁🫣
economically irrational
Supporting Open Source mining development meanwhile playing the Bitcoin lottery is irrational?
If enough of us do it blocks will be found.
the lottery part is irrational. yes, blocks would be found, but the expected value of playing the game is negative
Not in decentralization terms, and not in developing Open Source mining hardware/software through grassroots crowd sourced volunteers.
Satoshi even predicted as such.
But yes your economic benefit is expected to be negative, like all lottery games - except this one isn't rigged.
Don’t see it like that
You make the effort to help the most important thing of our time to save 200$ by skipping some dinners out and 3$ a month in electricity bills by being careful with your lights and then you have free lottery on top of that with some actual chances to win ( 1 in 12k in a year)
We should all do it
For most it’s easier to just buy Bitcoin.
And for me personally I went with Braiins Mini miners. 1-1.4 TH/s for 40-60 W.
This has nothing to do with stacking though so that doesn't make sense really.
Bitaxe ~1.2TH @ 15watts it says.
Also braiins mini miners are not pushing Open Source forward I don't think?
Bitaxe.org
Support OS development so we can break the Chinese manufctr cartel & pool cartels all at once!
#procrastination
As long as you're doing this meanwhile #procrastinating
https://video.nostr.build/07dac3547a7c16a70988ab3927cc9dd0d6ebbd7be17987f9ce0f561e5239c0e3.mp4
Already have a couple S9 space heaters… but, thinking about a Bitaxe too
You're not solo mining with those!
& Not supporting Open Source!
You're fucking awesome though! Keep up the good work!
I’ll concede the first two points, but playing around to learn a bit and teach my kids about mining… and we used the heat this winter to supplement the rocket mass heater!
I am interested in getting a Bitaxe though, and printing out a cool 3d stand for it. :)
BitAxe so the next generation doesn't have to cuck to China 💗💪😎
did someone say ROCKET MASS HEATER !!??!!! 🥳🤩🙂
Want pictures and lovely stories about it ☺️
On the road until Saturday night as a trucker, but will look for a pic or two on my phone. I built it about two years ago and is our primary heat source in winter.
We do have a propane wall heater that we supplement with a bit when really cold for long periods of time… and I got 2 Antminer S9’s and configured them as space heaters this winter… but, even buying hardwood sawmill trimmings from a local Amish sawmill, the RMH costs about $8-10/ year to run all winter! 😍🥰
Thanks, very much appreciated!
Yeah the cost of running it is so low, I intend to build one and would be able to run it on olive prunings.
#homesteading #rocketmassheater
#permies #rocketmassheater Maybe not the neatest pics, but one shows the brick bell and wood feed. The other shows a rack I threw together to hold maybe 7-10 days worth of wood if burning 1-2x daily, and the brick bench.
If/when I redo it, will rebuild it as an 8” system instead of 6”, and make the bench a little longer but a fair amount wider, to capture and hold more heat. So efficient though! 😍 My wife even says it is really easy to light and after not being too sure about it in the beginning, now she just loves it!
Cool! Looks nice and tiny, I like the design. I have a tiny house but I would also choose 8" I hear Paul Wheaton repeating how much better it runs, and, am hoping for the added mass to help cool in summer. But we'll see, still sokewhat further in the future...
#permies #rocketmassheater #homesteading #offgrid
Paul’s 8” system in the Fischer Price house IS very nice! I spent two weeks at Wheaton Labs in 2019… both 6” and 8” work well. J-tubes are more efficient and (I think) easier to light than batch boxes.
Below 4-5” systems are MUCH finickier… too much laminar flow/resistance along the edges of the path of gas flow. 10” or larger gets TOO hot…
cool! 😮 I wish to visit Wheaton labs someday, it is a bit harder coming from the EU. Else I would hve been an ant for many years...
Yeah, I was initially thinking about a 4" system but I dont need that extea finiky whatsha-ma-call-it. 8" is proven and just works, so I will go with that. My next steo in this is to build an outside J-tube #RMH but need to get the riser materials first...
So many wonderfull projects, quite addictive, and each steps makes me pollute less and increases my happyness.
#permies #rocketmassheater #homestead
nothing really, except maybe the power consumption, but I hear that is pretty low.
Says only 15watts 💗
Confused on who the best venders are and then the different models and options are making my head spin.
Very cool product just struggling to justify the cost when I can just buy.
This seems to be the place to go, add the stand and power supply bc it's free.
Yep! Quality stuff and a well run shop over there.
Other acquisitions that I have to make first to keep my significant other happy… but it is on the list
Make her happy faster 😊💕💗😎🤝👏💪
Only so many hours in the day 🤣
Oh now I see your problem.
🤣🤣🤣
Mathematical competence.
False, asymmetry is there & are you not a supporter of Open Source?
You can play the only verifiably non-rigged lottery in the world meanwhile supporting Open Source development.
Don't be complacent, do something.
Electricity prices in the UK.
It only takes 15watts
That will still cost billions to run here lol.
nostr:nprofile1qqsr3kaekp7e8psagp3q443dgjc636rcthcfjlhtg320ztfpwpyv6hqpz4mhxue69uhkummnw3ex2mrfw3jhxtn0wfnsz9thwden5te0d4kx26m49eex2ctv0yhxcmmvqyd8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtn8v46xzmrz0yhxxmmd9amrzythaye do you know how much it costs to run for you?
I don’t sorry , I’m just in it for the love.
May I suggest a Nerdminer?
You can also more easily build it yourself.
Lack of money, increasing energy cost, and nobody saying what is the the average mining income.
Lack of monies is a good reason.
15watts so not much NRG use.
It's a binary game we're playing with solo mining.
We either find the block & take the entire reward or we get nothing.
3.25 BTC is the current block reward.
Currently we don't have president, he resigned, ...we are ...fucked
…and we contribute decentralization..
The balance of my bank account 😅
But i will definitely at some point. Have the greatest support someone can imagine: my wife and #nostr 💪💜
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One day you will get it done!
Amazing wife love it!
Not enough heat generated to be useful
It's an asymmetric bet to win 3.25BTC & more importantly to support Open Source mining development & decentralization.
I love that. I run my miner using DATUM all for open source.
I actually might buy a bitaxe, but the only reason I’d do it is because I’m going to buy a hydro kit so I can learn about hydro cooling before scaling that up.
There should be 10x the number of bitaxe like projects, I love the open source hardware aspect with Kicad files. Bitmain is the problem here and until nostr:nprofile1qqsd0hut8c2pveuk4zkcws9sdap8465am9dh9cp8d2530yssuflcracpzemhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgqgkwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxummnw3ezucnpdejqnl58qr releases a chip we will be stuck wasting effort reverse engineering their chips when we could be doing better things.
I didn't even think of that tinkering aspect with liquid or immersion cooling.
Cheers brotha!
Bitaxe gang 💗
My retarded highly uninformed take is that buying sats is a better financial investment for me personally. I guess distribution of hash benefits the network and further secures my sats even if just marginally. Idk. I always pretend I’m gonna run a node and buy a miner and then I never do.
Running a pruned node is just too easy, idk why you wouldn't do it.
Maybe 5 total clicks.
The Bitaxe is an assymetric bet meanwhile supporting Open Source mining development & decentralization - no brainer if you got the funds!
My node running adventures have led me down some really interesting rabbit holes. Interesting for me anyway, since I don't have any computer/programming/linux background at all. I've learned a lot on the journey. Running a Bitaxe (or 3 😆) is fun and supporting open source development while enjoying another hobby is enough incentive for me to justify the expense to myself, lol.
But as nostr:npub1ugnq57hn8va6xqr5zywy2eunem6c624583vkt0dmv40ep7tnnxkqrr898l said, setting a node up is super easy now. My DIY Start9 just works without me having to think about it. Not like one I had going on bare metal a few years back that i kept on tinkering with.
Common sense 😂
Supporting Open Source & home mining
= Common sense.
Give me a break.
The person who liked your comment btw is notorious for not giving a shit about Open Source btw.
CAPEX price/Th is like pissing in the wind.
Doing the Lord's work fighting the good fight here!
time + effort vs other things
I ran a lightning node before. Was interesting but I do not have the mental space to keep up with it. I imagine the same would happen with a miner.
Oh dude mining with a Bitaxe is the complete opposite of running an LN node.
Set it up and let it rip.
Passive AF 😁🫂💗😎🤝.
Nothing! got onecas soon as i discovered they exist. Great project.
I am off grid with little solar, so i run my nerdminer 24/7 and bitace from sunup to sundown, will improve that setting.
Learning not only about #bitcoin and #mining but also about power usage, solar and batteries.
Big win!
Waiting on a HeatBit…
