Did I say they were? Does this change anything at all in what I describe? No it doesn’t.
Aluminum hydroxide (or its other variants) has been used in vaccines since the 30s and has exactly the relationship I laid out above.
Go ahead and find me a placebo controlled clinical trial on the effects of injecting any of the aluminum adjuvants.
Take your time.
Way out of your lane here but ok man
I think you must show that he is out of his lane instead of just claiming.
That's fair. But I'm less inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to any influencer who jumps around from subject to subject in contrarian fashion. It's the same influencer trap on any social media.
For one, discussing the effects of injecting these compounds directly into the blood stream isn't even relevant to vaccine debate.
What is this vaccine debate you're referring to? Where can I read more about it?
Would you prefer the word "controversy?" Does that clarify the concept I'm referring to?
No, it's the same.
I've read the claims that aluminum contained in vaccines causes a bunch of problem in multiple places myself before, but now you're saying that it is not true that vaccines contain these things? Or are you saying no one ever talks about these things? The second is definitely true since many people are talking about it.
But for all the thing that anti-vaccine people claim I'm yet to see an answer from the pro-vaccine side, all I see are blank dismissals like yours. That's why I'm asking for the debate. I don't see a debate, I can't find this debate anywhere.
I wasn't sure you were being intellectually honest. Guy has proposed vaccine debate. That's what I'm referring to.
Elemental aluminum doesn't exist in vaccines -- aluminum and aluminum salts are not identical. Also vaccines aren't injected into the bloodstream, while Guy was claiming it was important to measure the effect of these compounds being injected directly into the bloodstream -- which isn't relevant to the vaccine conversation.
If a needle goes into your arm, you are injected with liquid, and you bleed after,(Basically everyone) the vaccine will be carried in the bloodstream.
Guy said ‘aluminum,’ not ‘elemental aluminum.’ It seems like you are just adding words and not being intellectually honest while deflecting.
What’s your angle on this, and you have no right to decide whose “lane” is whose. (Especially on a public social media platform)
It reminds me of those authoritarians in the COVID days trying to shut down discussion. Basically they all lied and most discussing ‘outside their lane’ were right.
There is a significant difference between injecting something into muscle and injecting it directly to your bloodstream. I called that out because it was a specific claim in Guy's post.
And regarding COVID, who "outside their lane" was proven right?
Almost everyone. I had a coworker who is a line cook who was 100% right about the vaccine ineffectiveness and the economic fallout from COVID. The only people who were consistently wrong, over and over again, were the supposed experts and the people blindly following their orders.
These types of conversations are the reason I am on nostr. It can't happen anywhere else.
Guy's post may have been missing some specificity, but the broad claims in that post still stand as far as this conversation goes.
Matt's responses have been semantic and primarily oriented around dismissing information which I understand to be mostly true.
If something in Guy's post needs to be clarified I imagine he will benefit from the increased accuracy of information as he continue to research this topic 🙂
My brother in Christ! Everyone who pushed back against mainstream narrative largely pushed by the WHO and government health officials, with help from many governors and the media to propagate the message. Basically almost anyone who said the opposite of what the media was saying during that time period largely came out being correct.
The propaganda machines was
wrong about no human to human transmission
-they were wrong that the virus wasn’t developed in a lab
-they were wrong that it came from bats
-they were wrong about the vaccine’s efficacy (99%, 95%, <50%, 20%, and it kept dropping and they kept moving the goalposts and pushing boosters with more draconian measures)
-they were wrong about the vaccines safety
-they were wrong to push services members out who refused the vaccine and are begging them to come back now (picture attached)
-they lied that the vaccinated didn’t transmit the virus or transmitted it less so than the unvaccinated
-they lied about masks and their effectiveness at stopping transmission
This is just off the top of my head. Some you could still argue based on semantics, but largely everything above is indisputable.
People who pushed back against this were lambasted, fired, shoved into a corner, dehumanized, censored, and everything in between. NOSTR exists probably largely BECAUSE of the events between 2020-2022.
Even more dishonestly, I hear those trying to shut down the argument completely lying about what the data is increasingly showing. They claim that “anti vaxxers” are saying no vaccines work. Which isn’t the argument if they actually listen. It’s that the very thing that *makes them work* for the what they are made for, is exactly what causes so many other immunological problems and neurological side effects.
The big exception seems to be Covid, which doesn’t seem to work for fucking anything but causing myocarditis and other serious issues. Even the very organizations pushing it now admit that it only helps for like a few months, which is just absurd to call it anything, especially not a “vaccine.” It’s basically less than useless.
get a vaccine AND use aluminum in deodorant!
Use magnesium in deoderant. Best product switch I ever made. Total and complete lack of any armpit smell since I started using magnesium-based deoderant. Apparently the microorganism that turns sweat into smell cannot tolerate magnesium. I'm not sure about bitcoin or nostr, but I'm sure about using magnesium-based deoderants (at least when it comes to effectiveness).
Exactly!..👏👍🤔
Yea you know he's way out of his lane if he thinks vaccines are injected directly into the bloodstream.
What he describes is just basic vaccine facts. Nothing to even argue about , it’s in vaccines and has been for decades. Anything you put in your body has an effect and can trigger other underlying issues. 🤷♂️
$boost
mattybs, sounds to me like you're trying to pull the "you're not an expert" card on Guy.
Let me remind you that every official expert lied through their teeth. About covid, about vaccinations, about treatment.
The lesson everyone should have learned is that you can't trust so-called official experts alone.
You need to pursue outside information. So-called experts and non-experts opinions.
Because in the end the only opinion that's supposed to matter is your opinion about what's best for you and your body. Or your children.
This asinine, criminal belief that some dildo with a medical degree should be able to demand what you do with your body or your child is total garbage.
It's not those idiots call. I'll say it again. ” YOU DON'T VACCINATE PEOPLE, TO PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE".
That's medically and scientifically unethical, criminal and incredibly STUPID!!
Because of this stupidity they mass murdered millions. With millions more to come..👺👹🤡🤑💰💸💊💉🥴🤮😱😩😵💫🥀⚰️💀⏳
Doctors have all sorts of direct professional & monetary incentives to promote & sell vaccines to people (tens & even hundreds of thousands of dollars in rewards per year for hitting certain percentage targets, like fully vaccinating 80+% of their customers). And there is significant financial & professional risk involved in speaking out against vaccines, yet there are some who still do.
https://video.nostr.build/fedada92c89d76c1cca0fb221db79815674d110e8b5bdae1c6500817ea64ce63.mp4
🙏🏻🙏🏻
