You equate mental health to money? Interesting
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No man lol you keep putting words in my mouth đ
I said her mental health will be fine especially with that money. As in the money helps her mental health. Money problems is one of the largest mental health stressors for people today. Mental health is complex. Most Americans have terrible mental health and are poor. So just having more money makes mental health management easier.
Thatâs where we disagree. No amount of money will make what she did better and no amount of money will make a guy forget that she was ran through by 100 and then tried for a 1000. If he says it does or that he doesnât care, heâs lying. 100%
It doesnât make it better. I donât think we disagree about it as a moral issue. Sheâs a hoe but Iâm also a voluntaryist. She chose those actions and still managed to get married and have a baby. She seems fine and happy now đ¤ˇââď¸
Also Riley Reid got married in 2021 and is still doing porn and only fans content today. Sheâs trying to use AI to continue making new content for herself. I really donât think her husband cares and she doesnât seem to care either. Her net worth is 14 million. People can say money doesnât fix happiness and thatâs true to an extent. But itâs definitely easier to be happy with money than without it đ
Doesnât mean her mental health or his are fine. Money doesnât fix that. And also Riley Reid is one example. All the girls out there trying to emulate her are in for a rude awakening. Only the top earners on OF actually live well of it. Must be similar for Rileyâs other career. Lots of peopleâs lives will be destroyed trying to get what she has
Valid point about the money. The distribution is definitely massive between the most popular models so Riley Reid isnât a fair comparison.
I mentioned earlier that my friend does only fans. He does it with his gf and they seem happy. There was also that girl Kayla that was on here last year (or maybe two years ago). She did only fans for a while and then became a therapist so she stopped doing it because itâs unprofessional. But she said she misses those days and it was fun. We also have onyx on here who does only fans and she seems happy as well.
Iâm not passing judgement on individuals. Well except for Reid and âfor the teamâ đ
Obviously individuals can be happy (they wonât be rich like Reid or the other one). My issue is how the top 1% is glorified and most will deck their lives trying to emulate, thinking they will âmake itâ. They wonât. OF will win. The house always wins.
Thatâs true the house always wins. At least, until they come to nostr đ
Nostrâs removal of the middleman and zaps helps the money side. For sure
I think once only fans content creators come to nostr, they will slowly taper off. I donât think theyâll need to do it as they start using bitcoin more. Whoever is left will probably do it because they like it and not because itâs their best option.
You mean theyâll stop using OF? It has an advantage nostr doesnât have yet: its user base. If they want their content in front of the most eyeballs and the most money, they have to use both I think
No I mean in the long run, like maybe 50 years from now. Less people will be doing it because we will be on a Bitcoin standard. More wealthy people will be around that can afford to start families. So there wonât be a need for things like only fans. A lot of women are having a hard time finding suitable men to have families with because everyone is poor.
Iâm not sure if Bitcoin solves the need for porn. Whether itâs on OF or something else. Thatâs more of a human nature thing. Not sure Bitcoin fixes human vices/human nature.
Reduce it I think. Right now itâs something like 10% of women between 18-25 are doing only fans. I donât think that rate will stay that high.
Does reducing the amount of people doing OF reduce the demand for porn? Iâm not sure. Maybe replaced by something on v4v (đ) or something else entirely
I think the demand for porn will naturally go down as men find more fulfilling relationships. But there will always be demand. Itâs just going to be weird when AI starts making porn. I can see porn consumption eventually become a very niche hobby like horseback riding đ
I totally disagree with this. It wonât become niche like horseback riding. It will go down slightly but not much. 71-80% of men in romantic relationships consume it. And 46% of men use it weekly. Men in relationships use it less than men that are not (1.7 times per week for 20mins per session vs 3 times per week for 40mins.
Yeah, I have to agree with this. Porn will go up for sure.
Have you seen the fake AI models on OF? People pay money to see CGI bodies. Probably nothing. đ¤
Havenât seen this no đđ
People like the novelty aspect I guess.
Appreciating whatâs right in front of you is lost on many
In my head, I hear Jeff Booth talk about the price of goods and services falling to the marginal cost of production. At some point you wonât be able to tell the difference between real and AI porn. But the cost to produce real and AI porn will be very different. Thereâs no camera, makeup, lingerie, film editing with AI porn. So real porn will necessarily cost more than AI porn to produce. Porn stars will be priced out of the market and only the ones willing to pay for select porn stars are going to be relevant. Which is why I think itâll be a niche thing.
The highest incidence of mental health issues is in well off middle aged women. Poor people don't have time for it, they have real problems đ
This is a funny meme but itâs just factually untrue đ
Strange, that's not what the research says.
Women antidepressant use double that of men, much higher in older women, much higher in white women compared to black & hispanic.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2592697
Antidepressant use much higher in women compared to men, increases with age.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5286730/
"Antidepressant use increased with age, overall and in both sexesâuse was highest among women aged 60 and over (24.3%)."
"Antidepressant use was higher among non-Hispanic white (16.6%) adults compared with non-Hispanic black (7.8%), Hispanic (6.5%), and non-Hispanic Asian (2.8%) adults."
"Antidepressant medication use was higher for adults with at least some college education (14.3%) compared with those with a high school education (11.5%) or less (11.4%)."
You said poor vs rich not just middled aged women vs young men you fucking retard
Reminds me of the times you've gaslit me and wasted my time
No wonder you have me muted while you post shit like this
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Context sir lol this research is just stating who uses antidepressants more. But wealthier people have more access to these resources because they usually have more money. Most poor people go undiagnosed. Also, antidepressants are shit. They donât actually help and have been shown to cause more harm than good. Itâs not even debatable, itâs been proven with many published studies. For example, more poor people commit suicide than wealthier people. This association is found across countries.
No source + opinion + conjecture đ
I didn't think a source was necessary because it would seem kind of obvious. If you are happier and healthier being poor, then why stack sats? Being poor is a major stressor that wealthy people don't have. Being poor makes it more difficult to get good healthcare, eat healthy food, and have a good work-life balance. We literally meme normies by telling them to HFSP and say that bitcoin fixes everything that fiat, which makes people poor, ruins. But anyway here is the source you ordered lol
Interesting read. I guess I just disagree with a lot of what is classed as mental health disorders is actually just realizing you're in a bad situation, and the govt tells you it's your problem. I've lived on both ends of the wealth spectrum, and was pushed into some unnecessary mental health services at certain points in my life. I didn't have mental health problems, I was just a realist, and solved my own problems.
A lot of nonsense from the mental health field. I think because they are trying to be more like the medical field in order to get insurance coverage. But insurance coverage requires diagnoses and the medical model just doesnât align well with it. Thatâs where the brain chemical imbalance theories come from. And thatâs where the justification for meds comes in and big pharma has its influence.
This, mental health numbers are govt propaganda to tell people the problems they notice are their fault, not the systems. The problem is the broken system, not ones mental health. The whole things backwards.
Mental health problems are a real thing and good therapists can still help people that are poor. Iâve seen it happen and experienced it myself. But most of the problems in the world are from government and fiat. And they are made way worse. I remember listening to a former Soviet spy talk about how they used to give people things like meditation and other mental exercises to get them to accept their shitty situations. It works well enough to help them keep pushing but itâs sad because fiat keeps them from advancing.
Impressive in-depth conversation. Really well done!
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I'm not sure. I know from experience more money doesn't guarantee more happiness. It can just as easily compound your suffering.
In your hypothetical probably the Lambo seems easier. At least I'd be dry. But I would also have an expensive impractical car with huge insurance, gas and mechanical payments hanging over my head. Is the Lambo paid for?
Under the bridge I would be uncomfortable, and I might get wet. But I also have skills and could find employment to ease that problem, it would be a short term burden if I wanted it to be. Do I have access to my Bitcoin savings?
I'm still crying about something, suffering differently in either situation.
I didn't expect you to take it this seriously. Yes, the lambo is paid for and you have enough to cover the insurance. This really shows bitcoiners are really picky. đ¤
The under the bridge alternative is mostly dry too. It's a little bit uphill so the rain doesn't mess with you. You get to construct a small shed.
It seemed like a silly hypothetical so I attempted to take the piss out of it đ
Is it better to be rich or live in abject poverty is basically what the question boils down to. The answer is obvious with no other caveats, so I'm not sure the point of answering.
Of course. The nuance was that you get to be rich after doing porn or be poor without doing it.
There is no virtue in being poor just for the sake of it. There are a handful of exceptions, but I doubt any are on nostr (yet/ever).
Lmao I rather not have videos of myself or my spouse with thousands online. But thatâs just me. If Lily Philips says sheâs happy thatâs a delusional lie. 10000%
The scary thing is that with AI, only a few pictures online are needed to make porn videos of anyone.
Do you guys think that Fauci gives a shit that half of the world hates him? I sort of view politicians as whores
Is that different than OF?
You might view them as whores but thereâs no videos on tube sites or on OF of Fauci/and or his wife getting passed around by 100 or a 1000 in the same video. Not really the same conversation.
When Philips wakes up one day and wants children, that will be an interesting story or when her kid comes back from school and tells her other kids make fun of him because of the gangbang videos she made. Iâm sure a wad of cash will make that kid happy. Heâll be blooming even
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Kid will probably be homeschooled lol government school is for poor people. Also by the time that kid is in school, it might be more normalized anyway. Kids in school donât make fun of you for being gay or trans like they did when we were in school. Remember a lot more women are secretly doing OF than we realize. That means there will be teachers and principals who have done OF at some point. We canât predict the future. I never imagined that people would stop openly using âfagâ and âgayâ as an insult. When I was in school, that was the most common insult to throw around. My little half brother told me I was sexist for assuming his teacher was a woman đ
Iâm not saying this is how things will turn out. Iâm just trying to say that we canât know what the future will look like. But I do know that the law of incentives always remain. The incentive to do OF is strong and humans are pretty resilient when it comes to rationalizing away the negative parts. We kind of already see hints of that on TikTok where women are talking about how her past doesnât matter. Young kids are absorbing that info. I can imagine some time in the future being looked at as the closed minded boomer.
Homeschooled? đ
So the kid wonât have any friends ever? No interactions with other human beings. Ok sure đ
Iâm not a boomer nor close minded. But having girls like Philips as role models or poster girls for OF will always make a ton of women (and men) unhappy.
The whole not knowing the future but it might be normalized is absurd. Iâm not betting anything on that outcome
Whether you like it or not, the reputation of a parent is important for a kidâs proper upbringing. And having to hide your child so he doesnât have to be submitted the the moms gangbang videos is sad
Kid is up to something here. If 9 out of 10 have OF parents, then the normal kids will get bullied. Hmm
This is hilarious đđ
This is all hypothetical but if you told me 20 years ago that half of all men would be addicted to sex while only having slept with a handful of women, Iâd call you crazy. So I try to stay humble about it. These OF moms are not going to just sit around and feel sorry for themselves. Theyâre going to have the talk with their kids. It can be a lesson of empowerment. Theyâre going to put pressure on public policy to accommodate them. Remember, there are a lot of women working OF who will eventually be mothers. Why is this hard to imagine? Are we not already in clown world? Do you think it canât get worse?
It will happen. Doesnât mean they will be happy. Or their children.
But it also doesnât mean they will be unhappy or that theyâll regret being alive. People are very resilient. As time passes, we move on from horribly traumatic experiences. People witness rape and murder happen to people they love right in front of them. They manage to move on from it and eventually make something good out of their lives. Not all, but many do. And those experiences are much more traumatic and damaging than having an OF mom.
Weâre not going to change eachothers opinions on this. Itâs going in circles now
But I get your point. I think itâs very possible that scenario plays out. Iâm just not super confident is all Iâm saying. Here is my last thought and then we can move on
I remember a time when the idea of being with a girl who sucked another manâs dick before she met you was a dealbreaker. I remember saying to a friend that if Bob put his dick in Susanâs mouth then Susanâs kisses you, itâs like bob put his dick in your mouth. So she was a hoe for sucking dick and should wait until she gets married. But you canât find a woman in her early 20s that hasnât sucked a previous bfs dick before. These were convos I had in high school with friends. Iâm not that young đ
And somehow people have lowered that standard. No one talks about the fact that most women have sucked double digit dicks before getting married. Not in front of a camera but in her dating life. By the second or third date, on average, these girls are giving blowjobs and having sex. Humans are good at compsrtmentalizing things. I think itâs because slowly people are starting to view sex as just a natural human desire and are separating it from this sacred act of love. Iâm sure porn has normalized this a lot. Not saying thatâs a good or bad thing. Itâs just the trend Iâm seeing. Sucking dick was unheard of in our parentâs generation. Now most of my friends eat ass. NO ONE wouldâve predicted that 50 years ago.
Mentalities change. Definitely. But attempting 1000 dude in one video vs a bj or eating ass? Thatâs not the same ballpark. Not even the same galaxy
I won't make fun of sex workers because I was very close to being in this industry myself. On the management side, but still, nasty greasy business. Only by a series of miracles I avoided it. I couldn't operate one without violence or threat of violence. This is one of the million(s) idea that you'll get in this lifetime. Now I understand it was a temptation, it was an incredibly close call.
I dated a girl whose mom was a stripper/prostitute. She told me as a little girl, she would see these strange men come into the home and go into her momâs bedroom then leave an hour later. Her father abandoned her as a kid so they didnât have money and she did what she needed to do to make ends meet. Her mom eventually married another man and had two more kids. People say that a womanâs past is a dealbreaker and I would agree that it is for me as well. However, these women still end up getting married somehow đ¤ˇââď¸
Touchy subject. Life is wild and strange things happen. Kids tend to remember after 3y of age and what happens between 0 and 3 marks them in the subconscious. Again, I am not the one to judge here. Money is a lot of times the issue. Strangely, very rarely I've met such women financially stable, no matter how much they were making on a monthly basis. This is why I asked you about the couple doing OF.
What do you want to know? The guy markets his gf on TikTok lmao He made a video similar to this
https://video.nostr.build/1d548f77ead3036c58a4c8e08f0aeaa3e3c4d6a671184b3df70b911d33fb2f1c.mp4
He will have friends, he just wonât be subjected to bullying to the same extent that a kid in a government school would. Also these sex workers tend to be friends with each other outside of the industry. So they could be setting up little playdates with each other lmao
Have you seen the role models kids have lately? They are not that far off man đ
Crazier things have happened. In 2011, I heard stories about elementary school kids daring each other to suck a boyâs dick. Kids have phones now and they watch porn together in groups during recess. Kids are exposed to porn at a very young age. And that was from 2011. We were not exposed to it until we were older so we developed a different mentality about that stuff. These kids brains are still developing. We have no idea how that will shape their views.
Iâve been wrong about how the world was going to turn out so many times that itâs humbled me. I canât assume anything anymore. Schools can come down hard for bullying OF kids. Just like they do today for bullying trans kids. They can even do education on how sex work is completely normal and the kids will believe it. Why is that absurd to imagine when we have literal drag queens in schools with parents cheering them on?
Iâm not talking about OFs being role models for kids. I mean young women trying to emulate what Philips is doing.
People can say something is normal doesnât mean it is. Happiness is not correlated with what others say. What she did for the camera will have an impact on her happiness and mental well being. Wether that part is talked about or not thatâs another thing
Also you said we cant predict the future but you seem to know everything that will go on for that kid in the future. All in the most positive outcome for him as well
Iâm putting out hypotheticals. Iâm not saying this is what will happen. Iâm trying to explain that you shouldnât be so sure that they will regret and be unhappy about this stuff. Like I mentioned yesterday, there are people that did OF and really enjoyed it. Some that still do.
And a lot that donât. Letâs revisit this conversation when you have children of your own
I propose a rule of thumb. Live a life such that you can remember anyone you've been inside or who has been inside you. Surgeons are excluded.
I like your rule John đ
I forgot some of the women I fucked lol
But how do you know?
You'll know when it happens. Life has this quality of presenting to you from time to time such nuggets of truth about you or what you used to be.
But I can't remember anything I've forgotten.
One sunny day she'll smile to you on the street while she's holding another man's hand and it will hit you two blocks later. "Oh, it's that who she was". Actual blocks not bitcoin blocks. đ
Depending on how slow or fast you walk, they could be the same đ¤
Hypothetical of course. Virgins until 100k.
i repeat"FEMbot security?"
How will humanity survive đ
Pump harder! HARDER
Thatâs literally how it happens đ¤
Not with the supersperm. You pump once or twice and boom - Supercycle.
I have to find the meme template of Morpheus screaming with his mouth wide open đ
Iâll look soon
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Iâll never have a ball and chain. Never understood how a man would let his wife control him like that lol
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I remember it when I think about how many women Iâve slept with. It wasnât a great experience so I tend to forget it. You remember the ones that were important the most.
Yeah it might but i donât think that will last forever. People move on from much worse things like ptsd from war or drug addiction.
The wad of cash will fix everything đ
I wonder if you can do that with a coldcard đ
There is that saying Bitcoin fixes everything. The more I think about it the more I think itâs retarded
It fixes things by fixing you and how you view the world.
Agreed. But not everything
Are we talking about OF moms? đ¤
If money didnât at least help to fix things, people wouldnât sue for rape and sexual abuse
The heavy suing is mostly in the states. Itâs less popular/common in other countries
I bet thereâs a correlation here
Maybe. But thatâs the option you have in the us legal system. You canât take matters into your own hand. Well you can but then you end up in jail. I mean legally thatâs the option. Does the money help you forget you were raped? Probably not. Does it help you financially because you lost work or needed to pay for expensive councelling. If itâs a massive case and you get lots of money, will you like the added comfort it brings? Sure
Yeah it depends. I guess everyone is different. Some people can be more traumatized by someone flashing them in the street than a physical attack. I know women will try to get pregnant from a rich athlete so she can be set for life even if it means raising a kid as a single mom for 18 years.
Thatâs fucked up. The rich athlete thing. Those girls are sociopaths
LMAO
He plays with shitcoins. Heâs not a very bright one. I donât think he realizes that his gf isnât going to be hot forever.
Cognitive behavioral therapy works for well that
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And Beatrice before her. Dogs are a good reason to get out for a walk in nature.
100%
What kind of dog do you have?
None at the moment. I used to have a Bernese mountain dog
Great dogs, I love Bernese. Growing up we always had a big dog around in addition to cattle herding dogs, 2 were St. Bernards, and one was a Bernese.
It's funny, but my pugs attitude reminds me more of those dogs than any other breed. Strong bonding, friendly with other dogs and people, overall calm and quiet dogs. Just 1/10 the size.
My was more the size of a big golden. Small female lol. Great temperament though
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Just did. Not gift wrapped though. Just from Damus.
i got IT would U rather text here or there?
Here is fine too. Whatâs your issue?
i felt i was maybe cracking off too much cuz it seemed U quit normal,imo, reply & i don't want to set or put you off node. i will stay out of your threads or whatever cuz i still want your input / does that make sense?
I donât fully understand
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I have no issues with you friend
The Bernese was a large male, unfixed. I think he weighed about 160ish, stood as tall as I with his paws on my shoulders. His job was guarding the corral area & farm yard from coyotes. Yet he was still gentle with children and other dogs & the farm cats. If I ever have the room I'll get one.
Did you notice any differences between fixed and unfixed as well as vaccinated and unvaccinated dogs?
Farm dogs were never fixed. Increased aggression and size, plus the cattle dogs were for breeding too. They were always vaccinated as well to prevent easily transmissible diseases.
Bernese and st Bernards are such nice dogs. I hope you have the room for one soon.
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It's all about coming full circle.
I want a dog to travel with. One that is protective so it canât be a small dog but isnât too difficult to train and wonât freak out like a husky if I have to leave it alone.
By plane or car/train ? Or both?
Plane
There will be signs
Shiba Inu is such a beautiful dog. I want one when the kids are a bit older, so they can âtake careâ of it
Akita inu is beautiful too. And huge. If you donât know what youâre doing itâll dominate you đŹ
I think weâve come full circle. OF moms just need to go for walks in nature with their dogsđ