Sometimes I really think of leaving all „social“ media. It’s really hard to cope with this hatred.

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Sadly, nostr does not fix this. The only solution might be to participate in closed communities.

Exactly. Nostr doesn’t even allow me to block these kinds of people.

💯 nostr in its current form makes this problem even worse than on centralised platforms. unfortunately most devs don't care.

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The "safe space" mindset is trash and only leads to censorship and discord. The solution against harassment and incivility is not to put the burden of guessing what hurts your feelings on devs or relay owners, but to demand that they give each individual user the tools to do the work by themselves.

As I said in my other comment, muting seems insufficient, so I think it's legitimate to ask them to give users the ability to effectively block other users from following them or seeing their content. That's where it stops.

But we do have mute/block on (all?) clients, no? 🤔

Mute, yes. Block only by choosing our relays better.

Maybe I don't really know the difference. What is a block doing that a mute isn't?

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I haven't found a need for it, myself.

Unhinged post stalkers quickly get banned by my followers. Web of Trust working as intended...

I see I see

and there are also clients that have "private mutes"

In Damus I can mute people in my replies. Dunno if the mute list is just saved locally though.

Muting is a good first step but it doesn’t really prevent harassment. People can still comment and everyone who follows you sees those comments unless they mute that person too, which is doable but not a great default experience. Maybe web of trust solves some of this.

I guess a nip could be created to attach a block-list of npubs to one’s own account. Nostr clients would have to adopt the standard and not display the block-list of the original note author. This would give everyone the choice if they want to display blocked comments or not. As a user I personally don’t want to see spam replies in most cases and am grateful if a note author is maintaining a spam-filter for their replies. If I’m curious anyway to see a particular blocked reply anyway, I could always opt-in to see it.

You can mute people so you stop seeing their shit, but you cannot block them so they stop seeing yours. I think blocking is a necessary feature that makes censorship unnecessary to a very large extent.

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You can mute npubs in most clients

Anita. Du weißt, was du leistest und dass es gut ist, was du tust. Anderen Menschen lehren, freier zu werden. Flagge hin oder her. (Ist auch nicht mein Ding) Wenn Leute dein für dich richtiges Lebenskonzept nicht verstehen können oder wollen, dann verschwende auch nicht deine Zeit, es ihnen erklären zu wollen. Sei selbstbewusst und denke, was störts die Eiche, wenn sich die Sau daran reibt. LG

I’m so sorry Anita, that’s so childish and immature as well. You’re loved and appreciated by so many!!

Thanks 😘

As hard as it is (which I can only imagine) it's almost guaranteed that that person lives a sad lonely life.

I know what you mean. But a lot of people with these worldviews find their peers too. So they don’t even realize how toxic they are and what it does to themselves!

If you aren’t strong enough to handle the world’s reactions to your worldview then you shouldn’t be on social media.

You are here to share your views. If you can’t handle that people don’t like them then you aren’t fit for the public conversation.

You’re a piece of shit.

LOL - noted.

Now go start a thread about how you want to leave the public square because you can’t handle the hatred.

You seem to lack the mental capacity to know the difference between discussion and vitriol.

If that's directed at me, you seem to lack the ability to discern constructive criticism from vitriolic personal attacks.

Sorry I stumbled into your guys echo chamber. I guess Nostr can be pretty nasty - its ok - I can handle it.

Point to me where the criticism was in the original reply. What I am seeing is the dude jumping to insults like "barren" straight away.

People like you are why sharing such views is important. I’m sorry you don’t get much love in this world.

"Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can never hurt you" ...unless you choose to let them. Just mute & move on.

For real

Agreed

I’m very sorry you have to deal with this. It’s absolutely sickening. Please know that far more of us hear appreciate you for who you are.

Anita, stay zen. Idiots produce noise. Ignore it. Life is too precious. Keep up you great work.

Ooohhhm. 🤗

i'm sure that you'll at leasth save a few poor girls from getting their tits cut off by doing so

Yep, some people just aren't that social and should keep their comments for themselves.

Remember Anita

You'll Never Be Criticized by Someone Who Is Doing More than You.

Keep positive 💪🏻

Good to know who to avoid out here…

Mad how these things cycle round, I thought people had become more accepting through the 90s and 2000s, now society’s going backwards again.

Most of this shit sounds like a 12 year old that just discovered 4Chan.

Yes, I feel the same. The world was more progressive in the 90ies and early 2k‘s.

I think we're still moving forward. Social media just has a way of amplifying bigots.

the government and some big corporations stepping in and trying to socially engineer an outcome has set off a vicious cycle and made less people accepting of things they normally would have been ok with or simply ignored and left alone.

I appreciate your account so much.

As for the people we all can see on here who like to take extra time to do this

Fix your hearts! Exactly.

Thing is by hurting others, people only hurt themselves.

I have noticed in conversation that some people are put off by your flag. People have the urge to classify other people into boxes. You don't easily fit in a box as you are, and that seems to bother some people. It's their problem, not yours.

Your voice and your work are important. Bitcoin is neutral and I wish we don't stay stuck with the existing bitcoiner stereotypes.

I hope you stay around.

I will definitely stay. I won’t go into hiding because some people project their however wrong view of things onto me and wish me far away. Thank you!

It's ok, we know how much of an absolute treasure you are. Little opinions shouldn't matter as much.

So ein Verhalten sagt viel über diese Person und nichts über dich 💛

That guy needs a hug. Preferably from someone who’s gay.

Sorry there are people like this in the world 😔

Absolutely … very often those who are the most negative and aggressive towards gays are those in the closet.

Please don’t. All hatred is self hatred. I’m really sorry that shit like this happens.

I used to think that, but if you stay with them long enough you become like them .

its important both side speak their mind. and you have the right to protect yourself from toxicity.

I understand the hatred who you are as a person is very hard to cope with. I hope love will prevail. Maybe agression with his words is because he didn't met you in real life.

There is a mute function for that

Before I can mute I HAVE to see it.

True.

That's social media for you.

The filterless public square.

While I disagree with the life style, this is absolutely wrong. Having a gay son I have to set myself aside and let him live the life he chooses regardless of what I think or how I live. This dudes toxic for probably more reasons than just this issue. If you leave he wins, or her, or them/they. LOL.

its important to let everyone speak their mind and not be toxic to them !

its not matter of right or wrong.

social consensus got be free !

It’s not a life style! No one decides to be gay or lesbian, the same way as you did not decide to be heterosexual. It‘s what I am, the same way as others are black or have blonde hair.

I feel the same, I also started cutting toxicity in my life. you feel clear in your head !

That was a mean thing to say. Many see that flag as a disguised anti-family communist flag.

There’s a lot of silent ppl out there who fully support you. Don’t mind wackos and keep positive.