After a party with parents I strangely feel the need to mention 93%. People your kids know.

not randos

not “ken dressing like barbie”

Not suddenly in a pubic rest room.

many are so scared you don’t know what to be scared about

https://www.ywca.org/wp-content/uploads/WWV-CSA-Fact-Sheet-Final.pdf

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I’m shocked they’ve wrote this considering it’s a woke organization.

They should say how many of those 93% are gay/trans perpetrators. Likely 80-90%.

Are we going to play hearsay against a paper it took me two seconds to google?

Try again and raw chickens dont count

Wut?

I provided information you provided numbers without reference. Try again

30-%50% of gays report being molested when young.

70-90% of trans do.

There. Numbers.

So there's ~3.5% of the population half of which are reporting their molestation and yet the metoo movement was so immense. Are these open shut cases the news has decided are unnews worthy.

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/how-many-people-lgbt/

We’re talking about child molestation, not #metoo adults.

It’s something like 80% of molestation happens from family or those closely known by the family.

This could partly answer your question of “why” it’s not a major scandal.

Could you imagine if the truth was spoken about this? Gays aren’t born that way, they’re victims.

This would crush the narrative and force a serious conversation a

Of celebrating “pride.”

Also, that almost 4% number is vastly misleading, but we can’t tackle that next.

We can* tackle that next

93% which was my original stat not 80%

Your claim is that homosexual people are created is prosperous the act is millennial old found in current and past cultures and performed outside of our genus.

Ps still waiting for one website that you can reference ( I would take a fake site at this point)

https://www.apeinitiative.org/bonobos-chimpanzees#:~:text=While%20males%20form%20the%20strongest,rubbing%20or%20%E2%80%9Cgg%E2%80%9D%20rubbing.

Ps I can't spell myself so I wont call you on it

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/

47% of gay men report being molested. This number is likely signficantly underreported.

Only 19% here, but again likely very inaccurate due to shame and masking.

Either way, reports of “abuse” and “mental illness” are significantly higher. These studies have been replicated multiple times. Essentially proving that for the vast majority Gays aren’t born, they’re made.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34226247/

19% of child abuse how you twat?

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Desperate passive aggression is tell tell signs of being sick

Agreed the number is over 19%.

The issue is that you are suggesting that homosexuality is a learned behaviour.

Your logic fails as I you believe correlation is causation.

Abuse happens to gender minorities.

These people have higher mental illness.

Many times this has been reported.

Abuse causes homosexuality.

A. B. C.

Therefore A leads X

You don’t define X

Which is more logical:

babies are born gay, which is a significant abnormality even with the attempt to normalize it and the rampant disease it spreads

OR

sexual abuse, mental abuse, and grooming are the cause?

Particularly given the data we have?

May there be rare cases of “knowing at birth,” maybe. But it’ll be 1/10k not 1/100.

Cool, so you're not using logic to make your argument. Strong case.

both statements are plausible you just haven't formed an actual case for your argument.

Show me the logical fallacy here.

It’s 100% logic.

Either way, believe what you want.

The data is there.

Lololol.

So you’re saying it happens more to homos, what, because they’re asking for it?

That’s your logic.

Brilliant. 😆😆😆

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You’re drunk

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If it was genetic, wouldn’t that genetic trait die off since homosexuals aren’t reproducing and passing down the genes that make them be that way? I know recently we are playing god and making babies in labs with eggs and sperm from homosexuals, but that’s fairly recent. And sure we have seen these behavior for millennia, but we have to assume sexual abuse was also a thing back then.

So would that logic not suggest it could be a learned behavior?

Animals are different than humans, but even then are there animals that only mate with the same sex. I’m actually curious.

Worse, to suggest “well animals do it!”

Yes, my dog humps his toys, other dogs, and legs, on a regular basis.

What asshole thinks that should be the normailty humans strive for.

It’s a moronic comparison.

Though, he keeps digging a bigger hole. So far, according to his logic they’re born gay and deserve to be molested more, and they act like animals so should be treated as such.

Brilliant guy over there 🙄

Thank you that is a proper argument. I would argue that blue eyes( a genetic trait) is a recessive trait. If people who had blue eyes stopped reproducing, New people with blue eyes would be created as they popped up from the mixing of genes. This is why some people and animals have a proclivity for homosexuality while others do not.

Lolol.

“They’re born!”

Just a whole bunch of gay babies crawling around, before puberty, and before they even know their own organs.

This makes SO MUCH sense compared to looking the data of abuse and coming to a rational conclusion!

Gay babies 😆

I would take the under 80% and wager 2,000,000 sats.

Sounds like you allow media to inflate your perception of reality.

How so?

Media portrays gays and trans as if they’re just like straight people when the vast majority a degenerates.

Do you know the % of gays that say they were molested as a child? Do you know the % of trans?

You can just say you think most homosexuals are lesser humans and move on

You just went from 0-100 with that.

What you’re saying is what you think, not what I wrote.

What else am I going to conclude when you say, “gays and trans […] vast majority […] degenerates”??

What else is there to conclude but degeneracy when the entire focus around pride is a focus on sexual parts and sexual identify.

It’s pure degeneracy.

You’re the one saying they’re less though, those were your words.

So your definition of degeneracy is not that far from you thinking they’re lesser human, correct?

Quite the opposite.

This entire conversation started from an article discussing molestation and attempting to bring that to light, and stop it.

They’re victims.

They’re the vast majority of victims of molestation, yet it’s never discussed.

Which neither your or Daniel care about apparently. Because as soon as that fact is brought up you both immediately go into accusation mode.

You’ve been programmed.

I’m just trying to confirm if you’re a homophobe

lol.

Typical leftist. When presented with information that should change your mindset, disgust you, and make you demand change you instead only “want to know if I’m a homophobe.”

Fucking retard.

You’re calling me programmed yet assuming I’m a leftist 😂

Just because you don’t think you are, doesn’t make you not one.

Just because you don’t think you’re a bigot, doesn’t make you not one.

See how this game works?

You’re the bigot.

It’s apparent through your illogical arguments.

You didn’t even have to mention the earnings, did ya?

All of a sudden how no longer a matter if newsing to corrupto

Assuming most homosexuals are degenerates but I’m the bigot 😂

Your mental gymnastics are impressive 🤡

What else would you call men sleeping with men?

It’s certainly not normal.

Disease is rampant in the community, pedos are rampant in the community, their pride events only focus on genitilia.

Again, they’re victims, but normalizing victimhood does nothing for society but create more victims.

Seriously, what else would you call it?

humans loving humans

You’re wrong about the pride events but you’ll drink up and misrepresent anything the media slings at you

“The media slings at you!”

Asshole, I lived in NYC, I saw all of it, real time.

You are the person slinging propaganda.

“People loving each other.”

It Perverts same sex friendships into a degenerate and abusive relationship rife with disease.

Aw, are you upset now calling me names?

Opposite sex relationships involve plenty of disease spreading and abuse as well. Statistically more or less doesn’t matter when you dehumanize someone and dictate they cannot love someone else.

I hope at least one of your offspring is homosexual and hate you. Maybe then you’ll finally get it.

Ah.

You’re a homo that hates your parents.

It makes sense.

Who molested you?

Them? A cousin? Neighbor?

Another wrong assumption. Goodbye forever. I hope you face sharp consequences for your bigotry

Yeah, nothing I’ve said has been bigoted.

Use the dictionary.

Seek therapy for your molestation.

This is a bigoted comment, eh?

Bigot.

Hey, do you remember when a bunch of gay peoples dogs contracted monkeypox? That was a wild coincidence wasn't it?

Wasn’t just the dogs, it was kids too.

They stopped pushing that vax real quick after that.

Completely forgot about monkeypox. MSM killed that story real quick. Wonder if it’s still around

Oh, it’s certainly still around, but it’s in the homo community so no one talks about it because then people way go “ewww, gross. People shouldn’t bang people of the same sex.”

It's sad & scary

Known knowns, known unknowns, hopefully very minimal unknown unknowns

Stay vigilant always

Teach ya kids, cause its going to be up to them most likely.

I am sorry this conversation is what happens when I am in company that is not my choice. I don't think a kids birthday party is the place to change minds so I yell into the Nostr void

That's what we're here for 🫂

Every party is a place to change minds 😆

Nah I would rather sharpen my arguments here. Lol

Can you elaborate a bit on the ‘after a party with parents’?

I was with my 2 kids at another childs birthday party. 2 parents decided to talk about the danger to their kids that was seemingly now around every corner from random unsavoury individuals ready to pounce in the public washroom.

There was no talk about raising your children with education just we must stop bad people because we are scared.

I was privy to the conversation but not part of it. I felt for the parents trapped in fear, and feel that only knowledge can help xenophobia or worse.

These scenarios seem to unfold more often; finger pointing at stranger danger, with an oblivion to the evil that can lurk within arms reach. Knowledge is so crucial, on topics like this especially. I feel like I’ll never be able to do enough to educate or prepare my children for ‘what’s out there’.

I agree, my daughter is 7 I can’t be there to protect her 24hrs a day.I have to teach her what a penis and vagina are, how to grab pull and twist, and hope shes confident in herself if theres ever a time.

I have to teach my son to respect everyone even if its not popular.

The weight is heavy, but its worth it.

I’ll never understand the attraction of keeping kids in the dark about the facts of life, from the biological aspects to the fact that there are predators and how to be safe. They won’t be any safer or any more moral for being kept ignorant; they’re actually far more vulnerable that way.

I was reading through this thread , and I actually cannot figure out what it's about . Something about molestation in bathrooms ?

Lol not clue i just want people to be educated that abuse is most likely coming from someone they know rather than someone looking under bathroom stalls.

Ah right , I get you. You're more likely to get molested by a family member than a stranger is it ?

I think that is true of murder anyways...

Oh yeah for sure , more men murderers , nobody gonna argue with that.

murdering usually requires a fair bit of physical strength and all, and tends to be also related to bad temper in addition to being a psychopath.

I agree with the bad tempers and physiological. When men murder it's due to a feeling of of no value. Women tend to kill to protect their children, which is usually only one threat, their husband.

Ps we are at the point where anyone can express physical strength

https://www.vickerstactical.com/trigger-pull-weight.html#:~:text=Trigger%20Pull%20Weight%20for%20a%20Handgun%EF%BB%BF&text=%3E%20As%20a%20general%20rule%2C%20a,no%20more%20than%206%20pounds.

most murders involve the level of physical strength possessed by the average 20-40 year old male. guns are not the most common, i believe knives and bats are the most common way murder is done.

yes, in USA, firearms are the most common method, but elsewhere:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/march2022#the-most-common-methods-of-killing

literally stabbing and bashing with fists and feet.

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html

of course, the highest rates of homicide are in the USA, and they are 54% done by firearms.

i don't of course believe that this has anything to do with availability of weapons, because the murder rates that make USA the top place to get killed by murder are the ones with the most tight control of weapons laws.

https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/global-study-on-homicide.html

of course the liars spin it so it sounds like guns -> murder but actually most of the guns used in murders were not licenced and legal.