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keep nostr weird

that's probably an L for the vegs

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Drivechains

Alright people, we are playing a game of chess here. The one thing, the absolute one thing, we can't do is give up the king. To give up the king, in my humble opinion, is to mess up the base layer. This mistake would disrupt the delicate incentive structure that ensures sound money. That sound money pegs the extremely fragile credit markets and out-of-control G7 policymakers that are creating clown world with their CB fiat policies.

We don’t need the sound, pegged, money to move fast, we don’t need the money to do smart swoopty things, we just need it to be pegged, immutable, and digitally sailable to actually stop the madness of clown world.

By introducing a whole lot of technical complexity to the base layer and potentially screwing with the incentives all so we can connect to a bunch of centralized shitcoin projects is like playing offense with the king when you’re down 7 pieces and the other player still has their entire back row at their disposal.

A. Why the rush!?

B. Why not just go use Monero if you need that level of anominity in your transactions. Why do you have to have it in a wrapper via drivechains?

C. Why risk the king without deep understanding and testing of the technical risk and potential change to incentives?

The beauty of Bitcoin is you can build it and softfork it, and we’ll let the community vote with their nodes. BUT, I for one, have no use for drivechains (that doesn’t mean everyone is like me). And as a result, I will not be updating my node and running any attempted “secret” softfork updates by the miners.

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How can you take nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx seriously when he says "drivechains bring shitcoins to bitcoin" when the point of drivrchains is kind of the opposite?

The zcash sidechain gives you zero-knowledge privacy foe your Bitcoin (if you trust 51% of the miners) and you don't have to buy zcash.

Either stupid or dishonest.

but also, stay humble and stack sats

How can you take nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx seriously when he says "drivechains bring shitcoins to bitcoin" when the point of drivrchains is kind of the opposite?

The zcash sidechain gives you zero-knowledge privacy foe your Bitcoin (if you trust 51% of the miners) and you don't have to buy zcash.

Either stupid or dishonest.

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aaaaaaa

lol, sorry

you're right, it's not nice to imply influencers are wrong because they're not technical (though I suspect that does explain some of it, since it's literally no riskier than liquid et al. (just a differebt group that can steal)).

I am genuinely curious though, pretty weird to see them all writing convoluted walls of text about drivechains in the past couple weeks.

Why are non-technical bitcoin influencers so afraid of the growing support for drivechains?

lmao, best critique of drivechains I've read.

You get a vote for every block you find so at least it's not just glowing reddit staff controlling all the votes, it's POW

lnd has openbsd binaries and can be crosscompiled effortlessly. cln can maybe be compiled manually on openbsd but none of the tutorials I found worked with recent versions.

cross compilation for cln would be so complex it's not even worth considering as an option.

Consider how much the mainstream expert economists get wrong (and lie) then consider if your trust in nutrition experts ia any more warrented (its just as stupid as trusting mainstream economists dude). Save yourself from this hell before its too late

true, but if opting out works were going to need a whole parallel economy with hundreds of millions of participants. Anything short of that will be crushed