One disconcerting bit of consensus I've noticed amongst longevity experts is they seem to agree that a plant based diet is best for epigenetic health.

This is at odds with the diet recommendations of my personal trainer. Which sucks because I'm simultaneously running several epigenetic experiments alongside a bodybuilding program.

Wat do?

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Lift weights and eat steaks. 💪🥩

Yea … man was meant to eat meat.

“Remember, you are mortal.”

forget about longevity bullshit and live in the now

Stick to animal based. Plants want to kill you

Have you read the glucose method? I found it extremely intriguing

Longevity experts huh?

Legumes.

We all need to eat more 🫘

Run away from "plant based diet". It is good for detox if you are really big and have some toxicity to fix in the short term, but fail in the long run because plants lack a lot of minerals and neurotransmitters etc.

My current recommendation is "Do keto to get thin or heal. After getting thin add the fruits back. You can do more 'cheat meals' after you heal everything."

It’s personal. Get a levels health CGM and you have to see what foods your body works best with. Some ppl thrive on no meat, some languish.

But you can get buff now. 20 years from now try being skinny and youthful. Maybe by then they can recreate the conditions of fasting and low protein diets for longevity with a pill or two.

For now, muscle+excess calories means good times and the body doesn’t focus on hunkering down and repairing damage. You can try to counteract it with other ways to tell body to repair, hot and cold shocks regularly, fasting occasionally etc.

Plant based diets is to human health what keynesian economics is to human prosperity.

Read Paul Saladino: he exposes how these "experts" lie about the blue zones diets and try and cover up the food of our ancestors.

Longevity folks have done good research with fasting (V. Longo) but have otherwise pushed their own bias and agenda into their message.

China is home to some of the oldest populations on earth who also eat more animal foods than anywhere else.

It's a highly inconvenient fact omitted by longevity experts.

Italian and okinawan centinerians also eat far more animal foods than these folks would have you believe.

The problem with experts is that they are owned just like academics.

Throw them a few grants at them and they are quick to choose sides.

What interesting about carnivore experts is they are entrepreneurs with prior medical experience.

Whats interesting about plant based longevity experts is that they are academics who solely rely on funding from ESG groups.

The studies on carnivore have never be done. So experts who say plant based is better than animal based are not actually stating facts but their opinions.

Genes + environment

Does not matter what diet you have 😶

your personal trainer is correct

personal trainers are paid for results.

experts are paid for being experts, which requires not losing your credential by departing from status quo acceptance of university studies funded by corporate donors.

Instead of trying to do both at the same time, cycle. Spend periods of time emulating plenty, and go big like the trainer recommends. Grow, get strong.

But also have lean times times where you don't have meat, and you eat your greens and beans. And in all of it there should be times where you eat nothing at all for a day two or more.

Hunters don't always get to eat a kill, and it's important to have times of rest in between times of plenty.

Most of your ancestors spent most of their time hungry af.

Assume you are a human and you are doing human stuff that allows this actual age. If you were a semigod as Aquiles. What’s your choice? Neverminds the bollocks

Is it known who finances the research of longevity experts? Can it be, that they are paid to paint this picture?

Consider how much the mainstream expert economists get wrong (and lie) then consider if your trust in nutrition experts ia any more warrented (its just as stupid as trusting mainstream economists dude). Save yourself from this hell before its too late

How old are these longevity experts?

Low inflammation diet. Almost any change that leads to more whole foods and less processed foods will be an improvement.

Studies that compare ‘meat diets’ vs ‘non meat diets’ are invariably terrible and are really comparing ‘eat anything’ (typically higher inflammation) to ‘eat non-meat whole foods’ (typically lower inflammation).

And longevity findings so far seem to only conclude that it’s mainly about eating less / longer periods of eating nothing.

muscles aren’t that important. It’s good to train, but you don’t really need to be strong.

I am 41, have been vegetarian for 17 years, and have been eating time-restricted for 9 years. I had three different biological age tests last year based on a full body and blood analysis. Two returned ~30 years and the other 23 years. Avoid meat but supplement protein.

I do not personally feel the plant people are using good data and I don't feel they are being completely honest. Humans need to eat meat if the lesser processed variety.

Eat variety of whole foods, exercise a variety of ways, sleep, don’t stress, and you’ll be fine.

One of the benefits of bitcoin is not having to think about fiat money evaporating all the time. I don’t want to think about the minutiae of my health all the time either. I just want to live.

Drop the "with the least effort" 😉

Everything in moderation, including moderation

Ideally you want to vegetarian not vegan

High protein - spirulina, chorella, walnuts, hemp seed protein.

Good fats - ghee, macadamia nuts, walnuts, Olive oil, olives , cacao butter

Carbs - sweet potatoes, Mung beans, millets etc

Lots of veggies, salt, minerals and spices and herbs for Polyphenols

We’re all dying between 80-105.

You want to be 120?

Do what makes you feel energetic and happy. I was eating purely veggies in the morning (cooked in bacon fat) for a while and I must admit, I felt light and reasonably upbeat. I'm trying to slowly strip away cards and most veggies now, I'd like to try carnivore for a while and see how I feel. I think the plant based diet stuff works the same way keto/carnivore does, it can happen but most can't properly balance it. I think the negative attention called to either is mostly based on a lack of full commitment, keto for instance requires way more fat that most realize and seems to require supplementing salts like magnesium, plant based requires protein etc.; if you skip out on that stuff you are gonna have a bad time.

Eat meat 🍖 🥓

There's so little real unbiased knowledge on diet. Eat what you want, but don't eat too much.