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Hell, it isn't THAT much harder to use non-apple products, is it? I don't know how some of these 70 year old folks on Androids and windows based laptops even manage to function by the logic I see from so many Apple folks. πŸ˜‚

Someone give me one example of something an apple product can do for me that I need. One example of how a feature in the apple ecosystem can add value to my life.

Make it make sense.

Replying to Avatar Jdwagner17

Where did I say throw it away?

I am talking about the users, not the product.

You just said you hope apple taxes…

Every lightning node is paid for its utilization. If they provide payment through lightning, it will legitimize the bitcoin network in the minds of many normies. I don’t know what would happen, but I think people would start becoming more comfortable with products like BTCPay, and the devices that could interact with the most Bitcoin systems would be rewarded.

like the iPhone has made people more comfortable with digital payment methods, I believe it has helped the adoption of Bitcoin, especially lightning.

Mac OS is a required OS for certain types of work. With the introduction of apple silicon, it will not be so easy to put Mac OS on non apple products.

Part of why apple has done so well, is it created a really great programming language in 2014 and open sourced it. It works with Linux and Windows. It can also be used in developing apps for Android.

Apple is a ruthless competitor. They will take what they can. We need to create solutions, not tell people what to do. It’s not out of touch to buy something that lets you do your work best. What companies can a person buy from and it is ok?

we have the cold card and other wallet devices. Maybe when the cost of using apple or google gets too high, that will create the investment opportunity for open source wallet devices/software to take the stage. We haven’t even created a good alternative for most people yet.

Graphene OS is cool, but how much do you know about Daniel Micay?

The more you learn about the guy developing Graphene OS, the more you might question if you can trust it.

I'm not even going to attempt to address this circular logic word salad. There is literally nothing I need MacOS to do. I didn't say I want apple to tax, you did. Nobody is getting thrown away, I'm not even sure what you're ranting about. You can't point out one guy involved in a large project who stepped away, and say it can't be trusted, then advocate for the massive corporation that has proven they can't be trusted and want to restrict your choices.

I can not even begin to unpack the shitcoin mindset here, and I don't have any interest in debating it further with you, as you can't even maintain one logical stance in this discussion.

You can definitely log into a web client like Snort and it will function just fine, though sometimes things get a bit slow. I just switch to Iris or Primal when Snort gets buggy. I believe apple has the nostore extension, that let's you sign in with pasting your keys on webclients. I've heard good things.

And that's a good question I hope they don't go after Fountain, but I can't see why zaps would be paying for digital content (they aren't) and streaming sats on Fountain wouldn't be (they are). Only time will tell.

But if they nuke Fountain from Apple, you can always use Podverse via browser. It's much harder to stop web apps, and all Apple is doing is shooting itself in the foot.

How would you define the term fiat?

Not specifically in relation to money, but as a concept. I see many utilize the term more broadly, so this is a thought experiment.

Where did I say throw it away?

You just said you hope apple taxes people on their bitcoin transactions, pick a lane.

There is nothing wrong with using what you have, but it sounds like you're here trying to tell me why MacOS is better, but you have nothing to show why except that it's what you use. I can run any distro of Linux I want on superior hardware for less money than any comparable apple product.

If you care to scroll way πŸ‘† and read the original note you replied to, I specifically said that I'm a realist and don't think anybody should throw away devices over a stupid Apple decision. But if you give Apple your money, you just hate money.