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Robert Allen
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I wouldn't want to be single and childless on my death bed. That is sad.

Okay, so you would talk to your friend if you believed their behavior was damaging to themselves. We are in agreement on that. I happen to believe homosexuality is damaging to men and you don't. As I said earlier, at a minimum homosexuality is genetic suicide. So you are happy that your friends are effectively voluntary eunuchs. I think that is quite sad.

Yes, homosexual behavior is a choice. "Born this way" is a lie. Otherwise, how can you explain how 3-4 generations ago there were perhaps 1-2% of the population practicing these behaviors and now 20% of Gen Z claim to be alphabet people? The West went from tolerance of it, to "acceptance" of it to now full-on celebration. Now it is "cool" to be in this club and it is pushed by all major media, governments and corporations.

Alcoholism is degenerate behavior. Gay sex is also degenerate behavior. Both have negative social and personal consequences. The culture that gave you all of the good things you enjoy in life called these behaviors "sinful" and they were discouraged up until 20-30 years ago. And my point is that, if you know your friend is actively harming himself and you do nothing to help him, you aren't much of a friend.

So, if your friend was drinking himself to death with alcohol, you'd just pat him on the back and give him another beer?

I have dear friend who is gay. I have told him I hope someday he leaves that lifestyle and finds a wife so he can have a family. So yeah, here I am.

I'm pretty sure this was always the intent of the so called "gay rights" movement but it has become much more obvious lately. I'm surprised so many still think it is some good-hearted grass roots thing. It is basically the new flag of the radical marxists in the West. In ancient times, conquered peoples would be subjugated and the men castrated. In modern times, they psyop the men into cutting off their own dicks and the women into sterilizing themselves and it is celebrated as the height of "acceptance" and "love."

Yes. If you really love someone, you will tell them the truth instead of pretending to give a shit but actually just looking out for yourself by tickling ears with your words.

Homosexuality and the rest of the alphabet culture are socially and personally degenerate. The behavior is genetic suicide. In the same way that degenerate behaviors like gambling or alcoholism shouldn’t be celebrated with “pride” so should it be for this lifestyle choice. And no, I don’t hate these people and I have friends who would be in this camp, but I also don’t condone this behavior. I used to think like you but then I saw that this isn’t some 2-5% minority holding fast over time. Since this sin has been celebrated and normalized, every subsequent generation has become increasingly identified with it. Around 20% of Gen Z are alphabet people. Something evil is happening here and it will not end well.

I like the idea, but it could be that the "edge cases" here are not quite so easy to handle. Part of the way social networks work and grow is in allowing users to discover new people. If you don't think carefully about discovery from that perspective, you might end up killing that feature. Granted, spam is also a big annoyance, so trading off slightly less reach for less spam may be a worthy trade.

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After 146 days of thoroughly scouring #nostr every single day to keep up with news, updates, and other goings-on for nostr:npub19mduaf5569jx9xz555jcx3v06mvktvtpu0zgk47n4lcpjsz43zzqhj6vzk , I find there is a very noticeable weekday/weekend cycle similar to working in an office. Weekdays are full of app developments and new features, people working and building, #zapathon, scheduled Nostr Nests, and then the weekends are much more leisure activity, cookouts, very few updates from developers, no scheduled programming. For a decentralized network of people, #nostr has interestingly organized itself as a microcosm of “normal” society.

Are you calling us "normal"!?

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🚨 PROPOSED SPAM SOLUTION 🚨

Please read, I think this works. Between the ** is a reference from Primal, this is important context for what comes next.

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OK to begin, I noticed that Primal.net/explore lists the following categories of nostr users from the perspective of my pubkey…

1). Follows - accounts you follow

2). Tribe - accounts you follow + your followers

3). Network - accounts you follow + everyone they follow

4). Global - everyone on nostr

Breakdown of the numbers (for me) is as follows

1). Follows = 290

2). Tribe = 1,800

3). Network = 17,723

4). Global = 505,671

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Now “Global” or “Universe” is always prone to spam, because new pubkeys are very cheap and a spammer can easily automate the massive creation of new spam accounts. This has happened several times this year and many of the Global accounts are just one-time-spam pubkeys.

Primal’s category of “3). Network” is much more nuanced and may actually be self correcting.

Network, as defined by Primal is everyone I follow plus everyone they follow. My network is 4% of nostr, but I can grow or trim my own network by following more people or unfollowing people.

If someone in my network starts following spammers and spammers get into my network, I can simply unfollow that original follow pubkey, you can prune your network to cut out all the spam. This is self policing and encourages people not to follow spammers, or they will likely be unfollowed en mass.

Even if a spammer created a sophisticated network of pubkeys all with lots of fake follows and followers, this spam network would not bisect with my network unless one of my followers started following the spammers. If this happens, I can instantly fix this by simply unfollowing the fool in my network.

I think this works at unlimited scale and is actually very very simple. It is an example of an emergent system. A simple set of rules that cause complex higher order results.

The only drawback is genuine new humans finding their first follow. But they should be able to do this outside nostr, as it’s a 1 time kick start to their nostr keys gaining traction in the main network.

Have I explained this clearly enough to follow?

Would a couple of social graph pictures help?

How would note responses from your follows follows follows/followers be treated? Would you see those in threads?

Some shower thoughts, thinking about what to build on Nostr as someone who runs a centralized OTC app.

When selling Bitcoin on a P2P marketplace, the seller is at high risk of these kinds of scams especially of the buyer is using a non-cash payment (paypal, bank transfer, fiat payment apps). Sellers often get super rekt by the scams mentionned above. P2P or OTC bitcoin sellers will either charges a big premium as insurance, or does their own KYC (often either ultra invasive or hopelessly inadequate). Fraudulent buyers hurt the UX of P2P marketplaces, and ironically the fraud detection tools of centralized exchanges, whether KYC or pattern analysis, would be the solution.

As a seller of Bitcoin, the only thing you really need to know about the buyer is "will this guy fuck me over and will the fiat be clawed back". As a buyer, you only want to give the minimum information possible, but enough that the seller will trust you and not charge you exhorbitant fees and put you through outrageous verification processes to make sure you're not a scammer.

Bull Bitcoin's low-hanging fruit value proposition for Nostr: we have sophisticated fraud detection and KYC tools with varying degrees of due dilligence. Most of our tools are minimally privacy intrusive. The end result is that we have can have an extremely high degree of certainty that a given user "is not scammer", and a high degree of certainty that a user is "likely not a scammer". Our users already obtain a kind of "trust score" internally, which basically means they are not likely to do a chargeback, are not frausters stealing someone's bank account or a con artist performing some man-in-the-middle scam.

So it seems like doing NIP-05 verifications, or some variation, giving broad labels (risk score very low, risk score low) based on internal that we have would be useful for people that want to show good reputation on Nostr-based marketplaces. And we could do this well. Bull Bitcoin users that are whitelisted by us could then "port" the reputation they have with us to a P2P exchange.

Then again, I really don't want to be "the KYC guy" on Nostr. I hate the fact that KYC is one of our expertise (even if a lot of what we do is minimally invasive). I also don't want to be liable for "endorsing" people that aren't scamming Bull Bitcoin, but that may scam others.

I wanna do something fun on Nostr, not replicate something that sucks from legacy Fiat-Bitcoin world. But there is demand for it and we're good at it.

Final thought: just because you can, and just because people want, doesn't mean you should.

I’m building a reputation badge/long form attestation/NIP5 service with nostr:npub1gm7tuvr9atc6u7q3gevjfeyfyvmrlul4y67k7u7hcxztz67ceexs078rf6 that is a lot like what you are describing. Initial impetus was to help people preserve their LocalBitcoins reputation. Would be cool to chat with you about it: https://toastr.space

I finished it a week ago. Definitely a good read.